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Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 14:11 pm No need to try to blend in. There's legendary obsession going on here. Just remember who was the ONLY one on some message boards that saw Burleson as a really good future MLB hitter on the way. And the best is yet to come. LOL

Do you really want to talk about your track record of Cardinal player predictions?

McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3.

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:39 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 14:11 pm No need to try to blend in. There's legendary obsession going on here. Just remember who was the ONLY one on some message boards that saw Burleson as a really good future MLB hitter on the way. And the best is yet to come. LOL

Do you really want to talk about your track record of Cardinal player predictions?

McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3.

"McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3". I agree. Now Doyle 1 and Mathews 2. I'm concerned about Mathews's velocity. By the way, just having some fun with the predictions and comps. Other posters shouldn't take my musings so seriously. I don't. LOL

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 13:36 pm Ceiling is 3 or 4 he doesn’t have strikeout or overpowering stuff

He relies on movement, change of speeds, matriculating ball around quadrants of zone

Slave to BABIP, ERA from 3.75 to 4.75 dependent on luck and fielders

Excellent post. Thank you sir.

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 13:36 pm Ceiling is 3 or 4 he doesn’t have strikeout or overpowering stuff

He relies on movement, change of speeds, matriculating ball around quadrants of zone

Slave to BABIP, ERA from 3.75 to 4.75 dependent on luck and fielders

If McGreevy's ceiling is a 3 or 4. What are Liberatore's and Pallante's ceiling? About the same, maybe?

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:49 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 13:36 pm Ceiling is 3 or 4 he doesn’t have strikeout or overpowering stuff

He relies on movement, change of speeds, matriculating ball around quadrants of zone

Slave to BABIP, ERA from 3.75 to 4.75 dependent on luck and fielders

If McGreevy's ceiling is 3 or 4. What are Liberatore's and Pallante's ceiling?

I've been more concerned lately about where Pallante's floor is. He has been in free-fall for awhile.

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:43 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:39 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 14:11 pm No need to try to blend in. There's legendary obsession going on here. Just remember who was the ONLY one on some message boards that saw Burleson as a really good future MLB hitter on the way. And the best is yet to come. LOL

Do you really want to talk about your track record of Cardinal player predictions?

McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3.

"McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3". I agree. Now Doyle 1 and Mathews 2. I'm concerned about Mathews's velocity. By the way, just having some fun with the predictions and comps. Other posters shouldn't take my musings so seriously. I don't. LOL

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:51 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:49 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 13:36 pm Ceiling is 3 or 4 he doesn’t have strikeout or overpowering stuff

He relies on movement, change of speeds, matriculating ball around quadrants of zone

Slave to BABIP, ERA from 3.75 to 4.75 dependent on luck and fielders

If McGreevy's ceiling is 3 or 4. What are Liberatore's and Pallante's ceiling?

I've been more concerned lately about where Pallante's floor is. He has been in free-fall for awhile.

What I'm liking about McGreevy. Is his consistency. He seems like the most consistent starter the Cardinals have, right now. Including Gray.

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:53 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:43 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:39 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 14:11 pm No need to try to blend in. There's legendary obsession going on here. Just remember who was the ONLY one on some message boards that saw Burleson as a really good future MLB hitter on the way. And the best is yet to come. LOL

Do you really want to talk about your track record of Cardinal player predictions?

McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3.

"McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3". I agree. Now Doyle 1 and Mathews 2. I'm concerned about Mathews's velocity. By the way, just having some fun with the predictions and comps. Other posters shouldn't take my musings so seriously. I don't. LOL

There you go. Now don't take my posts so seriously. Try to relax.

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:55 pm

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:53 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:43 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:39 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 14:11 pm No need to try to blend in. There's legendary obsession going on here. Just remember who was the ONLY one on some message boards that saw Burleson as a really good future MLB hitter on the way. And the best is yet to come. LOL

Do you really want to talk about your track record of Cardinal player predictions?

McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3.

"McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3". I agree. Now Doyle 1 and Mathews 2. I'm concerned about Mathews's velocity. By the way, just having some fun with the predictions and comps. Other posters shouldn't take my musings so seriously. I don't. LOL

There you go. Now don't take my posts so seriously. Try to relax.

Don't worry, Shady--no one has ever taken you seriously.

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:57 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:55 pm

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:53 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:43 pm

JohnnyMO wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:39 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 14:11 pm No need to try to blend in. There's legendary obsession going on here. Just remember who was the ONLY one on some message boards that saw Burleson as a really good future MLB hitter on the way. And the best is yet to come. LOL

Do you really want to talk about your track record of Cardinal player predictions?

McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3.

"McGreevy would do well to be a reliable number 3". I agree. Now Doyle 1 and Mathews 2. I'm concerned about Mathews's velocity. By the way, just having some fun with the predictions and comps. Other posters shouldn't take my musings so seriously. I don't. LOL

There you go. Now don't take my posts so seriously. Try to relax.

Don't worry, Shady--no one has ever taken you seriously.

Yorkie, that's baloney coming from you. You've been intense. My posts aren't worth getting shook up about. LOL

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:51 pm

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:49 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 13:36 pm Ceiling is 3 or 4 he doesn’t have strikeout or overpowering stuff

He relies on movement, change of speeds, matriculating ball around quadrants of zone

Slave to BABIP, ERA from 3.75 to 4.75 dependent on luck and fielders

If McGreevy's ceiling is 3 or 4. What are Liberatore's and Pallante's ceiling?

I've been more concerned lately about where Pallante's floor is. He has been in free-fall for awhile.

He is streaky. I guess that's why he's a 5. I think McGreevy is a 4ish type guy. What you see is what you get. He's the same guy he was in AA only with better command.

On a serious team, McGreevy is a #3 at best. On a John Mozeliak roster, he might be a #1 or 2. That's where this organization is with talent. The arrogance jackass wrecked a team that was annually playoff bound.

CCard wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:44 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 13:36 pm Ceiling is 3 or 4 he doesn’t have strikeout or overpowering stuff

He relies on movement, change of speeds, matriculating ball around quadrants of zone

Slave to BABIP, ERA from 3.75 to 4.75 dependent on luck and fielders

Excellent post. Thank you sir.

Thanks, I like to shoot it straight, good or bad

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 17:17 pm

CCard wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 16:44 pm

Baseball Savant wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 13:36 pm Ceiling is 3 or 4 he doesn’t have strikeout or overpowering stuff

He relies on movement, change of speeds, matriculating ball around quadrants of zone

Slave to BABIP, ERA from 3.75 to 4.75 dependent on luck and fielders

Excellent post. Thank you sir.

Thanks, I like to shoot it straight, good or bad

Yeah, his slider looks really good and I think he should use it more often. I know it's hard on the arm though.

No chance.

Shady wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025 13:31 pm Or maybe Doyle, Mathews, etc. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/ca ... 2c771&ei=9
McGreevy should have been in the rotation a couple months ago. Maybe the Cardinals record would be a lot different.

So basically you’re asking, “will the Cardinals one day have someone be an ace at some point in the future?”…I sure as hell hope so. Maybe a good hitter too.