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Not gonna happen in STL. Saggese is a reasonable utility guy. A number 25 on the 26 man roster. Of the 380 position players he is in the last 30 reference status.
You’re assuming Arenado is gone. Big assumption I’m afraid. You got Donovan, Winn, Gorman, Saggese, JJ to find spots for. It’s crowded and I think Saggese would enhance a trade package.Shady wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:23 amI could see a Gorman/Sagese platoon at 3B. Wish Saggese could also help out in the outfield.Jatalk wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 10:21 amI think there are two things impacting his future as a Cardinal. One, the Arenado problem. If he stays he probably ( although he shouldn’t) occupies third. Two, if Gorman can end the season strong with bat and improve defense he is probably an option at third before Saggese.
With JJ coming up. Arenado blocking his path and if there is an improved Gorman I don’t see him sticking. Probably traded.
That's short-sided, BDog!sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 11:20 amNot gonna happen in STL. Saggese is a reasonable utility guy. A number 25 on the 26 man roster. Of the 380 position players he is in the last 30 reference status.
He could be this player anywhere and all teams have them.
He swings at everything which of course includes a lot of unhittable pitches. And he gets jammed more than any batter I’ve ever seen. Loves the off the plate inside pitches which are UNHITTABLE. Can’t get the barrel of the bat to them. If he can be more selective he’s got a chance to be a factor.
Fair enough. If he can make Donovan or MC level, then he moves up from 26. As for being a dirt rat, I like that.Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 11:23 amThat's short-sided, BDog!sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 11:20 amNot gonna happen in STL. Saggese is a reasonable utility guy. A number 25 on the 26 man roster. Of the 380 position players he is in the last 30 reference status.
He could be this player anywhere and all teams have them.
Saggese just needs more time. He is a baseball rat. He will likely be a Matt Carpenter typer player (early days) or a Donovan type. He has adjusted at every level he's been at. Give him some time. He will surprise you!
IMHO Saggese could become a productive starter on the IF. He just turned 23 in April, and no fan can predict how good or bad he will be as he matures.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 11:20 amNot gonna happen in STL. Saggese is a reasonable utility guy. A number 25 on the 26 man roster. Of the 380 position players he is in the last 30 reference status.
He could be this player anywhere and all teams have them.
Those 26 home runs in 2023 and 20 home runs in 2024 are nice.
Huh?
We all have our opinions, rock. And that’s what they are. I think Saggese will someday be the starting 3rd baseman. JJ at 2nd.rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:11 pmHuh?
Where on earth is he going to be a "productive starter on the IF"?
1st Base---No (WillyC)
2nd Base---No (JJW)
SS---No (Winn)
3rd Base---No (NADO/Gorman/Donny)
I get it, you absolutely love any player making close to the major league minimum since it makes your hero BDWJr smile.
But Saggese is JAG w/NO CHANCE of being a "productive starter on the IF".
A solid future infield of Saggese 3B, Winn SS, Wetherholt 2B and Burleson 1B. Could happen.Cranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:16 pmWe all have our opinions, rock. And that’s what they are. I think Saggese will someday be the starting 3rd baseman. JJ at 2nd.rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:11 pmHuh?
Where on earth is he going to be a "productive starter on the IF"?
1st Base---No (WillyC)
2nd Base---No (JJW)
SS---No (Winn)
3rd Base---No (NADO/Gorman/Donny)
I get it, you absolutely love any player making close to the major league minimum since it makes your hero BDWJr smile.
But Saggese is JAG w/NO CHANCE of being a "productive starter on the IF".
"early days"?Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 11:23 amThat's short-sided, BDog!sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 11:20 amNot gonna happen in STL. Saggese is a reasonable utility guy. A number 25 on the 26 man roster. Of the 380 position players he is in the last 30 reference status.
He could be this player anywhere and all teams have them.
Saggese just needs more time. He is a baseball rat. He will likely be a Matt Carpenter typer player (early days) or a Donovan type. He has adjusted at every level he's been at. Give him some time. He will surprise you!
C'mon manCranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:16 pmWe all have our opinions, rock. And that’s what they are. I think Saggese will someday be the starting 3rd baseman. JJ at 2nd.rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:11 pmHuh?
Where on earth is he going to be a "productive starter on the IF"?
1st Base---No (WillyC)
2nd Base---No (JJW)
SS---No (Winn)
3rd Base---No (NADO/Gorman/Donny)
I get it, you absolutely love any player making close to the major league minimum since it makes your hero BDWJr smile.
But Saggese is JAG w/NO CHANCE of being a "productive starter on the IF".
What you don’t think his .478 OPS since returning from the minors will be the 3B answer?rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:39 pmC'mon manCranny wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:16 pmWe all have our opinions, rock. And that’s what they are. I think Saggese will someday be the starting 3rd baseman. JJ at 2nd.rockondlouie wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:11 pmHuh?
Where on earth is he going to be a "productive starter on the IF"?
1st Base---No (WillyC)
2nd Base---No (JJW)
SS---No (Winn)
3rd Base---No (NADO/Gorman/Donny)
I get it, you absolutely love any player making close to the major league minimum since it makes your hero BDWJr smile.
But Saggese is JAG w/NO CHANCE of being a "productive starter on the IF".
Tell me who Saggesse is going to displace on the 2026 infield?
If that weak bat is our everyday 3rd baseman, then this team is in more trouble than ever before.