Re: KABOOM and Holy Sheet: Would Bloom bring in Varitek
Posted: 03 Aug 2025 19:53 pm
IIRC Rays Cash contract is up this year. Hard to think of a better choice IMO.
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He reupped with the Rays through 2030.Chitownredbird wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 19:53 pm IIRC Rays Cash contract is up this year. Hard to think of a better choice IMO.
Baseball Savant wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 19:17 pmNeed I remind you Yadi basically quit on team?Banner29 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 14:01 pm Honestly, id like the hire. From just Cardinal fan standpoint it would be controversial hiring him over Yadi. From a sensible standpoint he’s always been a leader and a winner and has been around some great managers both as a coach and player. Always remember him being tough as nails too.
Never showed up to help out in spring training
One that has a boatload of gold gloves/silver sluggers/home runs/legendary status around MLB? Yeah.45s wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 14:50 pmBad P R to fire a failing employee…..?Strummer Jones wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 14:23 pmThat's the one thing people don't get about hiring Molina or Pujols...you REALLY want to fire a legend? Not just a Cardinal legend, but a baseball legend? I wouldn't. We have enough unforced PR errors.HorseTrader wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 13:45 pm Interesting idea and could be what the team needs going forward. FIrst round draft pick TWICE, went on to have a very good career as a catcher. Been in the post season including two WS both of which his team won in 4 straight.
While I'd like to seem them get an experienced manager Varitek might be a better choice then Yadi or Albert. You hire Yadi or Albert then you have the concern that if they fail, you have to fire a Cardinal legend.
"In November of 2020, he was designated as game planning coordinator on manager Alex Cora’s coaching staff, and in 2021 was named player information coach.
The position of game planning coordinator largely deals with the analysis of player analytics, in conjunction with implementing strategies between the Red Sox starting pitcher and the catcher; catching coach entails game planning regarding pitching and catching. As Alex Speier of the Boston Globe wrote about Varitek: “[T]he role of game planning coordinator was a natural outgrowth of a combination of his skills, his role in recent years, and the explosion of information in the game.”"
https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/jason-varitek/
Torre had played most of his career elsewhere. And was already a known player before coming here. And Boyer, while legendary here, wasn't a legend everywhere.bakker wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 19:40 pmNot suggesting it isn't a consideration but they did fire Boyer and to a lesser degree Torre was legend lite. I really wonder if either is even a good choice let alone the best choice.Strummer Jones wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 14:23 pmThat's the one thing people don't get about hiring Molina or Pujols...you REALLY want to fire a legend? Not just a Cardinal legend, but a baseball legend? I wouldn't. We have enough unforced PR errors.HorseTrader wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 13:45 pm Interesting idea and could be what the team needs going forward. FIrst round draft pick TWICE, went on to have a very good career as a catcher. Been in the post season including two WS both of which his team won in 4 straight.
While I'd like to seem them get an experienced manager Varitek might be a better choice then Yadi or Albert. You hire Yadi or Albert then you have the concern that if they fail, you have to fire a Cardinal legend.
"In November of 2020, he was designated as game planning coordinator on manager Alex Cora’s coaching staff, and in 2021 was named player information coach.
The position of game planning coordinator largely deals with the analysis of player analytics, in conjunction with implementing strategies between the Red Sox starting pitcher and the catcher; catching coach entails game planning regarding pitching and catching. As Alex Speier of the Boston Globe wrote about Varitek: “[T]he role of game planning coordinator was a natural outgrowth of a combination of his skills, his role in recent years, and the explosion of information in the game.”"
https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/jason-varitek/
Yep.renostl wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 13:38 pmThe next Bochy?Bully4you wrote: ↑03 Aug 2025 13:25 pm Jason Varitek new Cardinals manager?
How's that play with Yadi, Pujols, Descalso, Holliday, etc.
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Varitek is a rookie manager?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:22 am Wow awesome bloom picking up right where mo left off hiring a rookie manager. When what mo does fails keep trying it and hopefully eventually it will work
Who should be hired then?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:22 am Wow awesome bloom picking up right where mo left off hiring a rookie manager. When what mo does fails keep trying it and hopefully eventually it will work
Which managers are available? lol people complained about Mo hiring rookie managers now they’re all on board with bloom hiring rookie managersBully4you wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:24 amWho should be hired then?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:22 am Wow awesome bloom picking up right where mo left off hiring a rookie manager. When what mo does fails keep trying it and hopefully eventually it will work
Say it.
Who.
I never complained about it?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:26 amWhich managers are available? lol people complained about Mo hiring rookie managers now they’re all on board with bloom hiring rookie managersBully4you wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:24 amWho should be hired then?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:22 am Wow awesome bloom picking up right where mo left off hiring a rookie manager. When what mo does fails keep trying it and hopefully eventually it will work
Say it.
Who.
Good for you. Bloom will just be continuing what Mo was doing and cards fans can watch yet another manager getting on the job trainingBully4you wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:27 amI never complained about it?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:26 amWhich managers are available? lol people complained about Mo hiring rookie managers now they’re all on board with bloom hiring rookie managersBully4you wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:24 amWho should be hired then?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:22 am Wow awesome bloom picking up right where mo left off hiring a rookie manager. When what mo does fails keep trying it and hopefully eventually it will work
Say it.
Who.
Choose who you finger point at more wisely.
I think Jason would be a hell of ta pick.
Considering it's a long, drawn out rebuild...Does it matter?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:28 amGood for you. Bloom will just be continuing what Mo was doing and cards fans can watch yet another manager getting on the job trainingBully4you wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:27 amI never complained about it?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:26 amWhich managers are available? lol people complained about Mo hiring rookie managers now they’re all on board with bloom hiring rookie managersBully4you wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:24 amWho should be hired then?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:22 am Wow awesome bloom picking up right where mo left off hiring a rookie manager. When what mo does fails keep trying it and hopefully eventually it will work
Say it.
Who.
Choose who you finger point at more wisely.
I think Jason would be a hell of ta pick.
I guess not if you’re going to lose might as well lose with someone who’s figuring out how to manage in the majorsBully4you wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:35 amConsidering it's a long, drawn out rebuild...Does it matter?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:28 amGood for you. Bloom will just be continuing what Mo was doing and cards fans can watch yet another manager getting on the job trainingBully4you wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:27 amI never complained about it?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:26 amWhich managers are available? lol people complained about Mo hiring rookie managers now they’re all on board with bloom hiring rookie managersBully4you wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:24 amWho should be hired then?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2025 08:22 am Wow awesome bloom picking up right where mo left off hiring a rookie manager. When what mo does fails keep trying it and hopefully eventually it will work
Say it.
Who.
Choose who you finger point at more wisely.
I think Jason would be a hell of ta pick.