KABOOM and Holy Sheet: Would Bloom bring in Varitek

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KABOOM and Holy Sheet: Would Bloom bring in Varitek

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Jason Varitek new Cardinals manager?
How's that play with Yadi, Pujols, Descalso, Holliday, etc.

https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles ... 5_42537542
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Re: KABOOM and Holy Sheet: Would Bloom bring in Varitek

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Bully4you wrote: 03 Aug 2025 13:25 pm Jason Varitek new Cardinals manager?
How's that play with Yadi, Pujols, Descalso, Holliday, etc.

https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles ... 5_42537542
The next Bochy?

Bloom can't worry about how it plays with
other candidates when choosing his dancing partner.
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Interesting idea and could be what the team needs going forward. FIrst round draft pick TWICE, went on to have a very good career as a catcher. Been in the post season including two WS both of which his team won in 4 straight.

While I'd like to seem them get an experienced manager Varitek might be a better choice then Yadi or Albert. You hire Yadi or Albert then you have the concern that if they fail, you have to fire a Cardinal legend.

"In November of 2020, he was designated as game planning coordinator on manager Alex Cora’s coaching staff, and in 2021 was named player information coach.

The position of game planning coordinator largely deals with the analysis of player analytics, in conjunction with implementing strategies between the Red Sox starting pitcher and the catcher; catching coach entails game planning regarding pitching and catching. As Alex Speier of the Boston Globe wrote about Varitek: “[T]he role of game planning coordinator was a natural outgrowth of a combination of his skills, his role in recent years, and the explosion of information in the game.”"

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/jason-varitek/
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HorseTrader wrote: 03 Aug 2025 13:45 pm
While I'd like to seem them get an experienced manager Varitek might be a better choice then Yadi or Albert. You hire Yadi or Albert then you have the concern that if they fail, you have to fire a Cardinal legend.

spot on with this. add that Yadi was named a special asst and never showed up once.

Holliday accepted a position then immediately backed out

If Clapp never got a shot, not sure why Descalso would even make sense
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Re: KABOOM and Holy Sheet: Would Bloom bring in Varitek

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Honestly, id like the hire. From just Cardinal fan standpoint it would be controversial hiring him over Yadi. From a sensible standpoint he’s always been a leader and a winner and has been around some great managers both as a coach and player. Always remember him being tough as nails too.
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I’d be fine with it as long as he wasn’t a yes man. Pushback, civil discourse, different opinions are healthy and act to make the whole better.

From afar he seems to have the DNA of a man who will speak his mind
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A.B.O.

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Another Curt Bishop clickbait article.
just saying....

He and Patrick McAvoy pound out these articles on the daily.
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HorseTrader wrote: 03 Aug 2025 13:45 pm Interesting idea and could be what the team needs going forward. FIrst round draft pick TWICE, went on to have a very good career as a catcher. Been in the post season including two WS both of which his team won in 4 straight.

While I'd like to seem them get an experienced manager Varitek might be a better choice then Yadi or Albert. You hire Yadi or Albert then you have the concern that if they fail, you have to fire a Cardinal legend.

"In November of 2020, he was designated as game planning coordinator on manager Alex Cora’s coaching staff, and in 2021 was named player information coach.

The position of game planning coordinator largely deals with the analysis of player analytics, in conjunction with implementing strategies between the Red Sox starting pitcher and the catcher; catching coach entails game planning regarding pitching and catching. As Alex Speier of the Boston Globe wrote about Varitek: “[T]he role of game planning coordinator was a natural outgrowth of a combination of his skills, his role in recent years, and the explosion of information in the game.”"

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/jason-varitek/
That's the one thing people don't get about hiring Molina or Pujols...you REALLY want to fire a legend? Not just a Cardinal legend, but a baseball legend? I wouldn't. We have enough unforced PR errors.
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Strummer Jones wrote: 03 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
HorseTrader wrote: 03 Aug 2025 13:45 pm Interesting idea and could be what the team needs going forward. FIrst round draft pick TWICE, went on to have a very good career as a catcher. Been in the post season including two WS both of which his team won in 4 straight.

While I'd like to seem them get an experienced manager Varitek might be a better choice then Yadi or Albert. You hire Yadi or Albert then you have the concern that if they fail, you have to fire a Cardinal legend.

"In November of 2020, he was designated as game planning coordinator on manager Alex Cora’s coaching staff, and in 2021 was named player information coach.

The position of game planning coordinator largely deals with the analysis of player analytics, in conjunction with implementing strategies between the Red Sox starting pitcher and the catcher; catching coach entails game planning regarding pitching and catching. As Alex Speier of the Boston Globe wrote about Varitek: “[T]he role of game planning coordinator was a natural outgrowth of a combination of his skills, his role in recent years, and the explosion of information in the game.”"

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/jason-varitek/
That's the one thing people don't get about hiring Molina or Pujols...you REALLY want to fire a legend? Not just a Cardinal legend, but a baseball legend? I wouldn't. We have enough unforced PR errors.
Bad P R to fire a failing employee…..?
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I've always thought Molina would make a far better pitching coach than a manager anyway. He's one of the only ones that can curate and properly channel the Dave Duncan pitching philosophy.
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As a player or a coach/manager?
I honestly believe he could still hit better than half of this lineup. I think the same about McGwire.
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Banner29 wrote: 03 Aug 2025 14:01 pm Honestly, id like the hire. From just Cardinal fan standpoint it would be controversial hiring him over Yadi. From a sensible standpoint he’s always been a leader and a winner and has been around some great managers both as a coach and player. Always remember him being tough as nails too.
Need I remind you Yadi basically quit on team?

Never showed up to help out in spring training
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Re: KABOOM and Holy Sheet: Would Bloom bring in Varitek

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Baseball Savant wrote: 03 Aug 2025 19:17 pm
Banner29 wrote: 03 Aug 2025 14:01 pm Honestly, id like the hire. From just Cardinal fan standpoint it would be controversial hiring him over Yadi. From a sensible standpoint he’s always been a leader and a winner and has been around some great managers both as a coach and player. Always remember him being tough as nails too.
Need I remind you Yadi basically quit on team?

Never showed up to help out in spring training
Gutsy move Baseball

Tossing reality out there so haphazardly….

Gutsy move, indeed.

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riff raff wrote: 03 Aug 2025 14:19 pm Another Curt Bishop clickbait article.
just saying....

He and Patrick McAvoy pound out these articles on the daily.
A Yardbarker column reprinted from SI that is a reprint of something from Redbird Rants. These clickbaiters are determined to cannibalize themselves.
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Re: KABOOM and Holy Sheet: Would Bloom bring in Varitek

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Strummer Jones wrote: 03 Aug 2025 14:23 pm
HorseTrader wrote: 03 Aug 2025 13:45 pm Interesting idea and could be what the team needs going forward. FIrst round draft pick TWICE, went on to have a very good career as a catcher. Been in the post season including two WS both of which his team won in 4 straight.

While I'd like to seem them get an experienced manager Varitek might be a better choice then Yadi or Albert. You hire Yadi or Albert then you have the concern that if they fail, you have to fire a Cardinal legend.

"In November of 2020, he was designated as game planning coordinator on manager Alex Cora’s coaching staff, and in 2021 was named player information coach.

The position of game planning coordinator largely deals with the analysis of player analytics, in conjunction with implementing strategies between the Red Sox starting pitcher and the catcher; catching coach entails game planning regarding pitching and catching. As Alex Speier of the Boston Globe wrote about Varitek: “[T]he role of game planning coordinator was a natural outgrowth of a combination of his skills, his role in recent years, and the explosion of information in the game.”"

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/jason-varitek/
That's the one thing people don't get about hiring Molina or Pujols...you REALLY want to fire a legend? Not just a Cardinal legend, but a baseball legend? I wouldn't. We have enough unforced PR errors.
Not suggesting it isn't a consideration but they did fire Boyer and to a lesser degree Torre was legend lite. I really wonder if either is even a good choice let alone the best choice.
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