Noot, Burly and Donny - what were they worth vs. E. Suarez, W. Castro, etc. ?

[Futuregm2]

I'm glad they held on to Noot, Donny, and Burly.

This gives C. Bloom a few months to evaluate them fully since he now appears to be running the show (I'd bet he had final say on the trades).

Then he can use the winter trading season to cull overcrowded positions and decide who he wants to keep moving forward.

And those returns you listed C.O., other than a few, were all a bunch of "Meh".......... JAG's.

The offseason will present many more possibilities than the deadline.
And they should have some $$ to spend especially if they can somehow manage to move Arenado.

Absolutely

They'd have MORE money to spend if they can trade NADO.

But BDWJr better already be willing to give C. Bloom no less than a $165M payroll.

Why should he give no less than $165million payroll?

I'm from the school that say's Bloom can walk (build a strong farm system that develops quality players) and chew gum (still compete in 2026 for a playoff spot) at the same time in 2026.

That's why he needs no less than a $165M payroll, to fill in the holes we can't fill from within.

I'm NOT in the non-compete camp for four-five years, play all young players, finish under .500 and sell off players every year for more prospects.

How's that worked out for the Pirates? A's? Rockies? ect..........

Not the way I'm built duce, not the way I want to see this malaise continue once Mo/Oli are gone.

JMO

Since 2000 the A’s have as many 95+ win teams (6) as we do (6). What I would call elite teams.

We’ve been able to do more with less. A’s have struggled to make it out of the first round whole time. We’ve struggled to get out of the first round since 2015.

25 years, wow quite a time frame there, let's keep it to a relevant time period.

A's Since 2020:
36-24 (covid)
86 -76
60-102
50-112
69-93
48-63 (70 -92 projected)

Well I could have gone the last 10 years and the A’s would have more than us. They won 97 games in both 2018 and 2019. They go through cycles. Have a few great teams, then have a few bad teams, have a few great teams, have a few bad teams, etc. Right now they’ve been on the bad ones, but they look like they’re getting better. Better than the Pirates or Rockies for sure.

Our model has gotten us 1 playoff series win in the last 10 years in “relevant” time.

[rockondlouie]

I'm glad they held on to Noot, Donny, and Burly.

This gives C. Bloom a few months to evaluate them fully since he now appears to be running the show (I'd bet he had final say on the trades).

Then he can use the winter trading season to cull overcrowded positions and decide who he wants to keep moving forward.

And those returns you listed C.O., other than a few, were all a bunch of "Meh".......... JAG's.

The offseason will present many more possibilities than the deadline.
And they should have some $$ to spend especially if they can somehow manage to move Arenado.

Absolutely

They'd have MORE money to spend if they can trade NADO.

But BDWJr better already be willing to give C. Bloom no less than a $165M payroll.

Why should he give no less than $165million payroll?

I'm from the school that say's Bloom can walk (build a strong farm system that develops quality players) and chew gum (still compete in 2026 for a playoff spot) at the same time in 2026.

That's why he needs no less than a $165M payroll, to fill in the holes we can't fill from within.

I'm NOT in the non-compete camp for four-five years, play all young players, finish under .500 and sell off players every year for more prospects.

How's that worked out for the Pirates? A's? Rockies? ect..........

Not the way I'm built duce, not the way I want to see this malaise continue once Mo/Oli are gone.

JMO

Since 2000 the A’s have as many 95+ win teams (6) as we do (6). What I would call elite teams.

We’ve been able to do more with less. A’s have struggled to make it out of the first round whole time. We’ve struggled to get out of the first round since 2015.

25 years, wow quite a time frame there, let's keep it to a relevant time period.

A's Since 2020:
36-24 (covid)
86 -76
60-102
50-112
69-93
48-63 (70 -92 projected)

Well I could have gone the last 10 years and the A’s would have more than us. They won 97 games in both 2018 and 2019. They go through cycles. Have a few great teams, then have a few bad teams, have a few great teams, have a few bad teams, etc. Right now they’ve been on the bad ones, but they look like they’re getting better. Better than the Pirates or Rockies for sure.

Our model has gotten us 1 playoff series win in the last 10 years in “relevant” time.

See I'm talking about RECENT HISTORY, you're using a different time frame.

Since it's my OPINION that the A's suck and haven't built a WS winner, let alone a recent playoff team selling off players.

I'm NOT in the lose for four-five years camp, play the kids and lose 90 games in some vain hope a WS contender can be built w/o a solid payroll.

Never happening.

Here are some recent A's selloffs, how many of their acquired players have amounted to anything?

2022
March 12: Traded RHP Chris Bassitt to the Mets for RHP J.T. Ginn and RHP Adam Oller.
March 14: Traded 1B Matt Olson to the Braves for CF Cristian Pache, C Shea Langeliers, RHP Ryan Cusick, and LHP Joey Estes.
March 16: Traded 3B Matt Chapman to the Blue Jays for RHP Gunnar Hoglund, SS/3B Kevin Smith, LHP Zach Logue, and LHP Kirby Snead.
April 3: Sent LHP Sean Manaea and RHP Aaron Holiday to the Padres for INF Euribel Angeles and RHP Adrian Martinez.
August 1: Traded RHP Frankie Montas and RHP Lou Trivino to the Yankees for LHP Ken Waldichuk, LHP JP Sears, RHP Luis Medina, and 2B Cooper Bowman.
August 2: Dealt C Austin Allen to the Cardinals for RHP Carlos Guarate.
December 12: Traded C Sean MurphyS to the Braves in a three-team trade, acquiring OF Esteury Ruiz, C Manny Pina, LHP Kyle Muller, LHP Freddy Tarnok, and RHP Royber Salinas from Atlanta and Milwaukee.
2023
January 26: Traded LHP Cole Irvin and RHP Kyle Virbitsky to the Orioles for SS Darell Hernaiz.
March 29: Traded CF Cristian Pache to the Phillies for RHP Billy Sullivan.
July 19: Sent RHP Shintaro Fujinami to the Orioles for LHP Easton Lucas.
July 31: Traded 2B Jace Peterson and cash to the Diamondbacks for RHP Chad Patrick.
July 31: Traded LHP Sam Moll and cash to the Reds for RHP Joe Boyle.
2024
February 7: Traded 3B Jonah Bride to the Marlins for cash.
February 24: Acquired RHP Ross Stripling and cash from the Giants for OF Jonah Cox.
July 30: Traded RHP Paul Blackburn to the Mets for RHP Kade Morris.
July 30: Traded RHP Lucas Erceg to the Royals for RHP Will Klein, RHP Mason Barnett, and OF Jared Dickey.
2025
January 17: Acquired C Jhonny Pereda from the Marlins for cash considerations.
July 31: Traded RHP Mason Miller and LHP JP Sears to the Padres for SS Leo De Vries, RHP Braden Nett, RHP Henry Baez, and RHP Eduarniel Nuñez.
July 31: Traded UTL Miguel Andujar to the Reds for RHP Kenya Huggin

[scoutyjones2]

I'm glad they held on to Noot, Donny, and Burly.

This gives C. Bloom a few months to evaluate them fully since he now appears to be running the show (I'd bet he had final say on the trades).

Then he can use the winter trading season to cull overcrowded positions and decide who he wants to keep moving forward.

And those returns you listed C.O., other than a few, were all a bunch of "Meh".......... JAG's.

The offseason will present many more possibilities than the deadline.
And they should have some $$ to spend especially if they can somehow manage to move Arenado.

Absolutely

They'd have MORE money to spend if they can trade NADO.

But BDWJr better already be willing to give C. Bloom no less than a $165M payroll.

Or else?

[rockondlouie]

I'm glad they held on to Noot, Donny, and Burly.

This gives C. Bloom a few months to evaluate them fully since he now appears to be running the show (I'd bet he had final say on the trades).

Then he can use the winter trading season to cull overcrowded positions and decide who he wants to keep moving forward.

And those returns you listed C.O., other than a few, were all a bunch of "Meh".......... JAG's.

The offseason will present many more possibilities than the deadline.
And they should have some $$ to spend especially if they can somehow manage to move Arenado.

Absolutely

They'd have MORE money to spend if they can trade NADO.

But BDWJr better already be willing to give C. Bloom no less than a $165M payroll.

Or else?

I'm sending you after him!

[scoutyjones2]

I'm glad they held on to Noot, Donny, and Burly.

This gives C. Bloom a few months to evaluate them fully since he now appears to be running the show (I'd bet he had final say on the trades).

Then he can use the winter trading season to cull overcrowded positions and decide who he wants to keep moving forward.

And those returns you listed C.O., other than a few, were all a bunch of "Meh".......... JAG's.

The offseason will present many more possibilities than the deadline.
And they should have some $$ to spend especially if they can somehow manage to move Arenado.

Absolutely

They'd have MORE money to spend if they can trade NADO.

But BDWJr better already be willing to give C. Bloom no less than a $165M payroll.

Or else?

I'm sending you after him!

[Ronnie Dobbs]

I'm glad they held on to Noot, Donny, and Burly.

This gives C. Bloom a few months to evaluate them fully since he now appears to be running the show (I'd bet he had final say on the trades).

Then he can use the winter trading season to cull overcrowded positions and decide who he wants to keep moving forward.

And those returns you listed C.O., other than a few, were all a bunch of "Meh".......... JAG's.

Same. I was initially a bit aggravated that they didn't do more yesterday, but I think it's the right call waiting until the offseason to let Bloom evaluate what to do with them. And if they're looking to swap MLB talent or MLB ready talent, other teams are gonna have more flexibility to make those deals in the offseason rather than in the middle of a playoff race.

[kyace]

I'm glad they held on to Noot, Donny, and Burly.

This gives C. Bloom a few months to evaluate them fully since he now appears to be running the show (I'd bet he had final say on the trades).

Then he can use the winter trading season to cull overcrowded positions and decide who he wants to keep moving forward.

And those returns you listed C.O., other than a few, were all a bunch of "Meh".......... JAG's.

Agree. And that's what Mo said in his Woo article: unless they were knocked over with an offer, this was Bloom's call in the off-season.

Yep

Glad to read that after the false info we were feed yesterday that he "wasn't even listening" to offers that made no sense.

This was the tweet from Katie Woo yesterday that led to that perception.

“Teams have inquired re: Brendan Donovan, Alec Burleson and Lars Nootbaar, but according to a team source St. Louis has "not entertained that up to this point."

[rockondlouie]

I'm glad they held on to Noot, Donny, and Burly.

This gives C. Bloom a few months to evaluate them fully since he now appears to be running the show (I'd bet he had final say on the trades).

Then he can use the winter trading season to cull overcrowded positions and decide who he wants to keep moving forward.

And those returns you listed C.O., other than a few, were all a bunch of "Meh".......... JAG's.

Same. I was initially a bit aggravated that they didn't do more yesterday, but I think it's the right call waiting until the offseason to let Bloom evaluate what to do with them. And if they're looking to swap MLB talent or MLB ready talent, other teams are gonna have more flexibility to make those deals in the offseason rather than in the middle of a playoff race.

Hopefully Bloom can use some combination to land a #2/3 starter