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75-87

They've already lost like 16 of the last 25 and that was before trading away significant pieces of bullpen.

Maybe now the rebuild will begin in earnest, with no more hedging?

Below .500 for sure

They'll finish at around 10 below again, and Oli will get a 4 year extension because the DeWitts' "Saw some serious improvement in his managerial style and the players just love playing for him"

July was supposed to be an easy month and they went 8-16.

August they play SD, LAD, CHC and NYY in the first half of the month. On the plus side they play COL, MIA, PIT, CIN as well, but we know how the COL and MIA series just went.

They'll be very lucky if they finish this season at .500. Who knows, sometimes you get a bounce from guys after the pressure to win eases up.

I'll say 23-29 the rest of the way... 78-84.

bccardsfan wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 09:40 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025 09:19 am I'm now in the "under .500" finish too.

W/O a closer we could see multiple games lost in the ninth.

As long as it means Oli is canned, being under .500 at seasons end has it's benefit.

There was a point where I thought they might somehow win 83-85 games. Now I think they will probably lose that many. I agree with Rock, if it gets a new manager it is worth it. Then again, there have been three or four times I was sure they would have to change managers and it never happened. MO is gone at season's end. Will be interesting to see what Bloom does or if BDW makes it clear he wants Oli to continue.

Pretty much. Under .500 finish seems quite likely with this offense and a bullpen with more ?'s than the Riddler.

But if Mo takes Oli with him (figuratively) I will be pleased.

I sure as $hite hope that BDW doesn't want Oli to stay. That would be painful.

Sigh. I said 88 wins in the spring. That was nuts.

Starting Pitching has been bad. Runs scoring disappeared through July.

Fedde is gone. Gorman & Noot coming back. Best relievers are gone. But Jo Jo is still here. Also interesting to see if others step forward like O'Brien.

We are done with July. So Gray can stop sweating and start pitching good again.

I still think they will show up most every game. They all have a lot to prove.

I haven't looked at the schedule. But Padres, Dodgers, Cubs, Brewers, Reds,...

Optimistically: 83 wins
Pessimistically: 78 wins

So if you are polling. It's a straight 81 win. .500 team

Bullpen seriously weakened. Starters not reliable. Hitters not at all reliable. Manager in over his head. Yeah, this team's goin' places.

If they actually do hike tix 15% and retain Oli, will they draw 1.5M?