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I’d settle for Jojo being traded….

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 12:55 pm And what is the big deal if they don't trade him...

Missed opportunity to acquire a prospect or two that might help later on? Shouldn’t be too difficult to figure out, you’re being obtuse as usual.

Clubmaker2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 12:43 pm sell low Mo!!!

So true.

Cards could send Helsley and Romero to the Yankees and most likely get a good young mlb pitcher like Warren and another pitching prospect.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 12:55 pm I think I heard on MLB that relievers go late

And what is the big deal if they don't trade him...

Lose him for nothing.

Horseradish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 12:55 pm And what is the big deal if they don't trade him...

Missed opportunity to acquire a prospect or two that might help later on? Shouldn’t be too difficult to figure out, you’re being obtuse as usual.

What if the prospects are more meh? Prior to last year, Helsley had 33 saves across 2 years.

He blows up last year and now has the highest WHIP and ERA of his career...

Do you think teams are noticing that???

Get the panties in a twist..Pat McAvoy

"The reliever market led specifically by David Bednar (Pittsburgh Pirates) and Ryan Helsley Cardinals is moving quickly all of a sudden today with (Philadelphia Phillies), (New York Mets), (Los Angeles Dodgers), (Detroit Tigers), (Seattle Mariners), (Texas Rangers) all in play...both could get moved prior to Thursday trade deadline day now."

Over the last few days, rumors like this have picked up steam. Philadelphia has been a team connected to the Cardinals a lot along with the Dodgers. New York, Detroit, Seattle, and Texas haven't been talked about as much, but this isn't the first time any of these teams have been linked to Helsley.

Whoever doesn’t think they’re going to get good prospects back for Helsley are on crack.

rock keeps repeating it as if he knows what he’s talking about, but he’s full of shart

rockondlouie wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 13:07 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 12:59 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 12:53 pm I think the return is going to really disappoint those who think he's bringing back a Top 100 MB prospect, never happening.

He's the one guy who deserves a top 100 MB prospect. If teams aren't desperate enough....don't trade. I see no benefit to virtually give him away. Proffer a QO. He might decline for a 5 year deal somewhere and we could extend him over the winter ourselves....

Nope

If he had years of control and was dealt in the past offseason but NOT at this time.

Deal him for whatever you can get now.

If he's serious and would take a team friendly deal, then bring him back if Bloom wants him.

Yeah, there would be nothing stopping the Cardinals from signing him as a FA after trading him for the last 2 months of this year. Now, I doubt BDW Jr. will want to pay him what he wants because his seemingly obvious desire is to reduce payroll.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 13:20 pm

Horseradish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 12:55 pm And what is the big deal if they don't trade him...

Missed opportunity to acquire a prospect or two that might help later on? Shouldn’t be too difficult to figure out, you’re being obtuse as usual.

What if the prospects are more meh? Prior to last year, Helsley had 33 saves across 2 years.

He blows up last year and now has the highest WHIP and ERA of his career...

Do you think teams are noticing that???

Other things they probably notice…
.092 AVG .154 SLG 45% whiff rate on his slider
99th percentile fastball velocity
94th percentile chase rate
86th percentile whiff rate

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 12:43 pm

ramfandan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 12:41 pm ESPN Buster Olney reporting today :


on Tuesday morning, multiple executives said the Cardinals are exchanging names and appear devoted to moving Helsley, though the offers for him might not be as robust as they had hoped.

That was from yesterday.

You have a point. My extensive research has revealed that Tuesday is in fact the day before Wednesday.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 12:53 pm I think the return is going to really disappoint those who think he's bringing back a Top 100 MB prospect, never happening.

Maybe they can work out a handshake to decline the QO if he’s not traded. He’s going to want the multi year contract.

Justin Crawford, please.

There is zero reason to keep him...if we had a GM who could do his job worth a toss we'd get a decent return...don't let MO fool you, there is a market for Helsley.

At this rate maybe just keep him and offer QO and take the extra draft pick

Helsley is obviously on the block. JoJo and Maton rumors are out there. Who is going to close games in STL after the trade deadline?