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scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:13 am

icon wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:12 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:00 am

icon wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 22:46 pm Bloom needs to fire Oli and his entire coaching staff. When you're starting with a "clean slate," as Mozeliak says he wants Bloom to be able to do, you need fresh faces throughout management. And that includes on the field. And he needs to hire a manager with experience. No more tryouts at the MLB level.

Oli managed in the minors (bleep)

Oli had no MLB managerial experience, (bleep).

You said experience (bleep)

swatski wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 08:41 am Not sure the Cards will have a whole lot of interest in the job outside of those connected to the organization. Another first timer I fear is on the way.

icon wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:15 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:13 am

icon wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:12 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:00 am

icon wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 22:46 pm Bloom needs to fire Oli and his entire coaching staff. When you're starting with a "clean slate," as Mozeliak says he wants Bloom to be able to do, you need fresh faces throughout management. And that includes on the field. And he needs to hire a manager with experience. No more tryouts at the MLB level.

Oli managed in the minors (bleep)

Oli had no MLB managerial experience, (bleep).

You said experience (bleep)

I said no more tryouts at the MLB level. Are you that deficient in reading comprehension? Apparently so, (bleep).

45s wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:12 am while I don't completely blame the staff for the state of the club.....they are certainly complicit

they should be relieved as part of a clean start with Rock's boner

as part of that fresh start is a staff from outside the organization........I will concede convincing veteran, experienced leaders to go to stl will be a challenge

Banner29 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:25 am I’d Bloom decides to keep Oli he might as well wear a bow tie and talk like a smug sissy because he will start out his era with the venomous hatred Mo has been getting.

If he replaces him with someone qualified and injects new energy all will be good and I’d be willing to bet the fan attendance(at least initially) would greatly improve with that move alone. Fans just wanna see that Mo stench gone and have the feeling that the team wants to win again

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:26 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:25 am I’d Bloom decides to keep Oli he might as well wear a bow tie and talk like a smug sissy because he will start out his era with the venomous hatred Mo has been getting.

If he replaces him with someone qualified and injects new energy all will be good and I’d be willing to bet the fan attendance(at least initially) would greatly improve with that move alone. Fans just wanna see that Mo stench gone and have the feeling that the team wants to win again

There it is...the latent bigotry.

Bowtie wearing implicates Mo as a "sissy."

ramfandan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:51 am For those who want an experienced manager, I have one for you..
Joe Maddon. 71 years old and a winning career record.
Managed the Cubs 2006 WS team

Now Maddon wants a team where thr FO lets
him decide who to play in his roster with no interference from th analytics guys on who should play.
Maddon stated I want analytics from those guys but not them telling the manager who to play it not play.
Don’t know if Cardd willing to give that power to their manager.
Maddon knows the game. He would be great with the young guys.
Would a Bloom give that control to a manager ?
Maddon would say to Bloom you give me the roster and then let me play the guys without interference from others in your front office.

Think young guys in rebuild would respect Maddox’s vast knowledge and would like that FO would not override his decisions.
I think fans would like Joe as he has personality .

icon wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 22:46 pm Bloom needs to fire Oli and his entire coaching staff. When you're starting with a "clean slate," as Mozeliak says he wants Bloom to be able to do, you need fresh faces throughout management. And that includes on the field. And he needs to hire a manager with experience. No more tryouts at the MLB level.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 10:19 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:51 am For those who want an experienced manager, I have one for you..
Joe Maddon. 71 years old and a winning career record.
Managed the Cubs 2006 WS team

Now Maddon wants a team where thr FO lets
him decide who to play in his roster with no interference from th analytics guys on who should play.
Maddon stated I want analytics from those guys but not them telling the manager who to play it not play.
Don’t know if Cardd willing to give that power to their manager.
Maddon knows the game. He would be great with the young guys.
Would a Bloom give that control to a manager ?
Maddon would say to Bloom you give me the roster and then let me play the guys without interference from others in your front office.

Think young guys in rebuild would respect Maddox’s vast knowledge and would like that FO would not override his decisions.
I think fans would like Joe as he has personality .

Would pajama Joe want to manage a rebuild?

ramfandan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:51 am For those who want an experienced manager, I have one for you..
Joe Maddon. 71 years old and a winning career record.
Managed the Cubs 2006 WS team

Now Maddon wants a team where thr FO lets
him decide who to play in his roster with no interference from th analytics guys on who should play.
Maddon stated I want analytics from those guys but not them telling the manager who to play it not play.
Don’t know if Cardd willing to give that power to their manager.
Maddon knows the game. He would be great with the young guys.
Would a Bloom give that control to a manager ?
Maddon would say to Bloom you give me the roster and then let me play the guys without interference from others in your front office.

Think young guys in rebuild would respect Maddox’s vast knowledge and would like that FO would not override his decisions.
I think fans would like Joe as he has personality .

icon wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 10:25 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 10:19 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:51 am For those who want an experienced manager, I have one for you..
Joe Maddon. 71 years old and a winning career record.
Managed the Cubs 2006 WS team

Now Maddon wants a team where thr FO lets
him decide who to play in his roster with no interference from th analytics guys on who should play.
Maddon stated I want analytics from those guys but not them telling the manager who to play it not play.
Don’t know if Cardd willing to give that power to their manager.
Maddon knows the game. He would be great with the young guys.
Would a Bloom give that control to a manager ?
Maddon would say to Bloom you give me the roster and then let me play the guys without interference from others in your front office.

Think young guys in rebuild would respect Maddox’s vast knowledge and would like that FO would not override his decisions.
I think fans would like Joe as he has personality .

Would pajama Joe want to manage a rebuild?

I have no idea, but he had success in Tampa, so there's that. And he certainly would be entertaining. But at 71...not so sure he's the guy right now.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 10:53 am

icon wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 10:25 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 10:19 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:51 am For those who want an experienced manager, I have one for you..
Joe Maddon. 71 years old and a winning career record.
Managed the Cubs 2006 WS team

Now Maddon wants a team where thr FO lets
him decide who to play in his roster with no interference from th analytics guys on who should play.
Maddon stated I want analytics from those guys but not them telling the manager who to play it not play.
Don’t know if Cardd willing to give that power to their manager.
Maddon knows the game. He would be great with the young guys.
Would a Bloom give that control to a manager ?
Maddon would say to Bloom you give me the roster and then let me play the guys without interference from others in your front office.

Think young guys in rebuild would respect Maddox’s vast knowledge and would like that FO would not override his decisions.
I think fans would like Joe as he has personality .

Would pajama Joe want to manage a rebuild?

I have no idea, but he had success in Tampa, so there's that. And he certainly would be entertaining. But at 71...not so sure he's the guy right now.

If Bloom makes a change, I look for it to be an experienced manager with name recognition.

icon wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 11:02 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 10:53 am

icon wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 10:25 am

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 10:19 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 09:51 am For those who want an experienced manager, I have one for you..
Joe Maddon. 71 years old and a winning career record.
Managed the Cubs 2006 WS team

Now Maddon wants a team where thr FO lets
him decide who to play in his roster with no interference from th analytics guys on who should play.
Maddon stated I want analytics from those guys but not them telling the manager who to play it not play.
Don’t know if Cardd willing to give that power to their manager.
Maddon knows the game. He would be great with the young guys.
Would a Bloom give that control to a manager ?
Maddon would say to Bloom you give me the roster and then let me play the guys without interference from others in your front office.

Think young guys in rebuild would respect Maddox’s vast knowledge and would like that FO would not override his decisions.
I think fans would like Joe as he has personality .

Would pajama Joe want to manage a rebuild?

I have no idea, but he had success in Tampa, so there's that. And he certainly would be entertaining. But at 71...not so sure he's the guy right now.

If Bloom makes a change, I look for it to be an experienced manager with name recognition.

If there is to be a true transition from the failed Mozeliak era of the last decade, I don't see how Bloom can keep Marmol, who owes his job to Mozeliak. I'm thinking and hoping he hires his own guy.

Rosie's Rule wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 22:48 pm Well said icon - would you keep Jon Jay ?