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Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:28 pm
by Clubmaker2
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:02 pm Guardians closer Emmanuel Clase has been placed on non-disciplinary administrative leave through Aug. 31 as part of Major League Baseball’s ongoing investigation into sports betting, per a league announcement. Clase’s teammate, Luis Ortiz, was the first (and thus far only other) player placed on leave under the ongoing investigation. Clase will continue to be paid while the league looks into any alleged wrongdoing. He will not count against the team’s 40-man roster while on leave. ESPN’s Jeff Passan reported that Clase was being placed on leave shortly prior to MLB’s formal announcement

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Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:29 pm
by ClassicO
ramfandan wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:54 pm Helsley now accused of betting. Reports are he is betting Mo is going to trade him by Thursday 5 pm .
Is not being suspended though .
Nicely done.

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:37 pm
by rockondlouie
Clubmaker2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:02 pm Guardians closer Emmanuel Clase has been placed on non-disciplinary administrative leave through Aug. 31 as part of Major League Baseball’s ongoing investigation into sports betting, per a league announcement. Clase’s teammate, Luis Ortiz, was the first (and thus far only other) player placed on leave under the ongoing investigation. Clase will continue to be paid while the league looks into any alleged wrongdoing. He will not count against the team’s 40-man roster while on leave. ESPN’s Jeff Passan reported that Clase was being placed on leave shortly prior to MLB’s formal announcement

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:lol:

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:46 pm
by tgharris
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:37 pm
Clubmaker2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:02 pm Guardians closer Emmanuel Clase has been placed on non-disciplinary administrative leave through Aug. 31 as part of Major League Baseball’s ongoing investigation into sports betting, per a league announcement. Clase’s teammate, Luis Ortiz, was the first (and thus far only other) player placed on leave under the ongoing investigation. Clase will continue to be paid while the league looks into any alleged wrongdoing. He will not count against the team’s 40-man roster while on leave. ESPN’s Jeff Passan reported that Clase was being placed on leave shortly prior to MLB’s formal announcement

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:lol:
Yeah....really.

Slightly OT: I wonder who's on the hook for his salary while he's on "non-disciplinary administrative leave"? The team, or MLB?

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
by rightthinker4
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:20 pm
Jobu's Rum wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:14 pm Moe is going to find a way to F this up, you guys know this
My fear too Jobu.

Our only hope is C. Bloom gets the final say.

He may e f f it up too, but we know Mo's going to (re: his worthless 2023 deadline moves).
Do we really want MO making any moves? BDW has probably given MO authority on salary dumps only.

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 13:56 pm
by 82birds
Jobu's Rum wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:14 pm Moe is going to find a way to F this up, you guys know this

that would surprise NO ONE

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:09 pm
by rockondlouie
rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:20 pm
Jobu's Rum wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:14 pm Moe is going to find a way to F this up, you guys know this
My fear too Jobu.

Our only hope is C. Bloom gets the final say.

He may e f f it up too, but we know Mo's going to (re: his worthless 2023 deadline moves).
Do we really want MO making any moves? BDW has probably given MO authority on salary dumps only.
Nooooooooooooooooo!

We want Bloom making the moves since it's going to be his team.

And you're spot on, BDWJr has certainly (again just like the offseason) given Mo orders to dump salary.

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:14 pm
by rockondlouie
tgharris wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:37 pm
Clubmaker2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:02 pm Guardians closer Emmanuel Clase has been placed on non-disciplinary administrative leave through Aug. 31 as part of Major League Baseball’s ongoing investigation into sports betting, per a league announcement. Clase’s teammate, Luis Ortiz, was the first (and thus far only other) player placed on leave under the ongoing investigation. Clase will continue to be paid while the league looks into any alleged wrongdoing. He will not count against the team’s 40-man roster while on leave. ESPN’s Jeff Passan reported that Clase was being placed on leave shortly prior to MLB’s formal announcement

.....This announcement brought to you by FanDuel, media partner of the ST Louis Cardinals and official sports betting partner of MLB......
:lol:
Yeah....really.

Slightly OT: I wonder who's on the hook for his salary while he's on "non-disciplinary administrative leave"? The team, or MLB?
Team

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/breaking-n ... 27210.html

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:21 pm
by tgharris
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:14 pm
tgharris wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:37 pm
Clubmaker2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:02 pm Guardians closer Emmanuel Clase has been placed on non-disciplinary administrative leave through Aug. 31 as part of Major League Baseball’s ongoing investigation into sports betting, per a league announcement. Clase’s teammate, Luis Ortiz, was the first (and thus far only other) player placed on leave under the ongoing investigation. Clase will continue to be paid while the league looks into any alleged wrongdoing. He will not count against the team’s 40-man roster while on leave. ESPN’s Jeff Passan reported that Clase was being placed on leave shortly prior to MLB’s formal announcement

.....This announcement brought to you by FanDuel, media partner of the ST Louis Cardinals and official sports betting partner of MLB......
:lol:
Yeah....really.

Slightly OT: I wonder who's on the hook for his salary while he's on "non-disciplinary administrative leave"? The team, or MLB?
Team

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/breaking-n ... 27210.html
Thanks Rock.

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:25 pm
by kyace
rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:20 pm
Jobu's Rum wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:14 pm Moe is going to find a way to F this up, you guys know this
My fear too Jobu.

Our only hope is C. Bloom gets the final say.

He may e f f it up too, but we know Mo's going to (re: his worthless 2023 deadline moves).
Do we really want MO making any moves? BDW has probably given MO authority on salary dumps only.
Saw a report today that said Mo is running the show on all trades. That fellow GM’s were surprised by this since he is leaving and the players he acquired won’t play for him. New York Post report by one of their baseball writers. Can’t think of his name now but he often appears on mlb network as an insider.

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:37 pm
by rockondlouie
tgharris wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:21 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:14 pm
tgharris wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:37 pm
Clubmaker2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:02 pm Guardians closer Emmanuel Clase has been placed on non-disciplinary administrative leave through Aug. 31 as part of Major League Baseball’s ongoing investigation into sports betting, per a league announcement. Clase’s teammate, Luis Ortiz, was the first (and thus far only other) player placed on leave under the ongoing investigation. Clase will continue to be paid while the league looks into any alleged wrongdoing. He will not count against the team’s 40-man roster while on leave. ESPN’s Jeff Passan reported that Clase was being placed on leave shortly prior to MLB’s formal announcement

.....This announcement brought to you by FanDuel, media partner of the ST Louis Cardinals and official sports betting partner of MLB......
:lol:
Yeah....really.

Slightly OT: I wonder who's on the hook for his salary while he's on "non-disciplinary administrative leave"? The team, or MLB?
Team

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/breaking-n ... 27210.html
Thanks Rock.
Welcome tgh

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:38 pm
by dugoutrex
kyace wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:25 pm
rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:20 pm
Jobu's Rum wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:14 pm Moe is going to find a way to F this up, you guys know this
My fear too Jobu.

Our only hope is C. Bloom gets the final say.

He may e f f it up too, but we know Mo's going to (re: his worthless 2023 deadline moves).
Do we really want MO making any moves? BDW has probably given MO authority on salary dumps only.
Saw a report today that said Mo is running the show on all trades. That fellow GM’s were surprised by this since he is leaving and the players he acquired won’t play for him. New York Post report by one of their baseball writers. Can’t think of his name now but he often appears on mlb network as an insider.
many on here have assured me that High Boi is making all the moves ?

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 14:44 pm
by rockondlouie
kyace wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:25 pm Saw a report today that said Mo is running the show on all trades. That fellow GM’s were surprised by this since he is leaving and the players he acquired won’t play for him. New York Post report by one of their baseball writers. Can’t think of his name now but he often appears on mlb network as an insider.
Makes no sense, I'm sure fellow GM's are confused.

Nothing against Mo on this one but it's NOT going to be his team in two months so why would he be the one making moves for the roster that C. Bloom is going to be managing then?

Not like Bloom is some low level executive w/no experience, the man has a strong trading deadline track record I posted the other day.

BDWJr really screwing up here. :?

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 15:17 pm
by Wattage
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:44 pm
kyace wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:25 pm Saw a report today that said Mo is running the show on all trades. That fellow GM’s were surprised by this since he is leaving and the players he acquired won’t play for him. New York Post report by one of their baseball writers. Can’t think of his name now but he often appears on mlb network as an insider.
Makes no sense, I'm sure fellow GM's are confused.

Nothing against Mo on this one but it's NOT going to be his team in two months so why would he be the one making moves for the roster that C. Bloom is going to be managing then?

Not like Bloom is some low level executive w/no experience, the man has a strong trading deadline track record I posted the other day.

BDWJr really screwing up here. :?

I think our GM girsch should be running point on trades since thats his job.

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 15:39 pm
by JuanAgosto
rockondlouie wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:44 pm
kyace wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:25 pm Saw a report today that said Mo is running the show on all trades. That fellow GM’s were surprised by this since he is leaving and the players he acquired won’t play for him. New York Post report by one of their baseball writers. Can’t think of his name now but he often appears on mlb network as an insider.
Makes no sense, I'm sure fellow GM's are confused.

Nothing against Mo on this one but it's NOT going to be his team in two months so why would he be the one making moves for the roster that C. Bloom is going to be managing then?

Not like Bloom is some low level executive w/no experience, the man has a strong trading deadline track record I posted the other day.

BDWJr really screwing up here. :?
Just absolutely stupid. If MO didn't have a giant ego, he'd just step back at this point.

Re: Clase in betting scandal, Helsley's value just went UP!

Posted: 28 Jul 2025 15:50 pm
by TraveledLessRoad
Mo was on KMOX with Tom Ackerman yesterday, late morning. Ackermann asked him straight up if Chaim is involved in this year's deadline. He responded that, yes, Chaim is one of a number of voices at the table for this year's deadline. He also stated that if it was a larger trade that would have a greater impact on the club long term, Chaim would have a LOUDER voice at the table in that instance. Paraphrasing, but that was the gist.

Make no mistake, Chaim is involved.