So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:06 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:05 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:01 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:58 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:53 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:52 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Two words: Roddery Munoz.
Actually, considering the current situation, you might be right.
how would they manage that? Would be the same secret Stretch Out Planning that they should've used for Matz? :roll:

They would need to get around his inability to not suck after his 2nd out. Can that be done?
So what's your solution? The only thing you've offered if giving Mikolas another start.
and I explained why...they probably need to get throw away players back on trades that can start innings...we only need 5 or 6 starts covered to end the season....probably watch the waiver wire.

Unless Ian Bedell is the second coming of Christ during his rehab, we have to use Mikolas....for now. You can't pen hopes on a AAA reliever who couldn't cut it as a starter last year, nor can you pen hopes on Roby for the two reasons I stated, but you refuse to accept. The IL is a real thing...and 7 Day IL in the minors doesn't mean it's toe nail
Sorry, that's not very enlightening.
Sorry, that you can't comprehend. Same Shady as always. I tried to help you. Run, Forrest, Run
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Dip [shirt] Shady has no idea who is healthy, unhealthy in the minors or is an available pitcher.
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Dip [shirt] Shady has no idea who is healthy, unhealthy in the minors or is an available pitcher.
he's holding out hope that Roby pitches an inning or two in the Majors so he can beat his chest on here :lol:

it's rather funny.

And, yet, sad.
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:11 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Dip [shirt] Shady has no idea who is healthy, unhealthy in the minors or is an available pitcher.
he's holding out hope that Roby pitches an inning or two in the Majors so he can beat his chest on here :lol:

it's rather funny.

And, yet, sad.
What's really sad is how obsessed you are with anything I post. You are the CT Guru. Why care what I post?
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:13 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:11 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Dip [shirt] Shady has no idea who is healthy, unhealthy in the minors or is an available pitcher.
he's holding out hope that Roby pitches an inning or two in the Majors so he can beat his chest on here :lol:

it's rather funny.

And, yet, sad.
What's really sad is how obsessed you are with anything I post. You are the Guru. Why care what I post? lol
Awfully defensive. I was merely giving you an enlightening conversation. You couldn't realize it. :roll:

Now answer the question. Do you or do you not know that Munoz was a bad starter with Miami?

And do you or do you not know what the IL is and that Roby is on it?
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz and Graceffo. Stretch them out.
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:01 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:58 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:53 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:52 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Two words: Roddery Munoz.
Actually, considering the current situation, you might be right.
how would they manage that? Would be the same secret Stretch Out Planning that they should've used for Matz? :roll:

They would need to get around his inability to not suck after his 2nd out. Can that be done?
So what's your solution? The only thing you've offered if giving Mikolas another start. That's truly brilliant.
On multiple other OP/threads that you’ve started in just the last hour alone, you’ve advocated for the Cardinals to be hard sellers at the deadline, so why are you so concerned about finding immediate “solutions” for replacing Mikolas (and his considerable innings contribution) “pronto” this season?
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:15 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:13 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:11 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Dip [shirt] Shady has no idea who is healthy, unhealthy in the minors or is an available pitcher.
he's holding out hope that Roby pitches an inning or two in the Majors so he can beat his chest on here :lol:

it's rather funny.

And, yet, sad.
What's really sad is how obsessed you are with anything I post. You are the Guru. Why care what I post? lol
Awfully defensive. I was merely giving you an enlightening conversation. You couldn't realize it. :roll:

Now answer the question. Do you or do you not know that Munoz was a bad starter with Miami?

And do you or do you not know what the IL is and that Roby is on it?
I know a helluva lot more than you realize or care to admit. By the way, you "missed the boat" again on Burleson this season. He's a very good MLB hitter whether you realize it or not. lol
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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Youboughtit wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:18 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz and Graceffo. Stretch them out.
in the meantime...Mikolas still has to pitch for 3 more outtings until they get stretched out....Matz will be traded by then. Graceffo isn't a very effective starter.
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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Youboughtit wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:18 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz and Graceffo. Stretch them out.
Exactly.
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:11 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Dip [shirt] Shady has no idea who is healthy, unhealthy in the minors or is an available pitcher.
he's holding out hope that Roby pitches an inning or two in the Majors so he can beat his chest on here :lol:

it's rather funny.

And, yet, sad.
Pathetic actually. So needy and lacking
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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NYCardsFan wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:18 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:01 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:58 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:53 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:52 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Two words: Roddery Munoz.
Actually, considering the current situation, you might be right.
how would they manage that? Would be the same secret Stretch Out Planning that they should've used for Matz? :roll:

They would need to get around his inability to not suck after his 2nd out. Can that be done?
So what's your solution? The only thing you've offered if giving Mikolas another start. That's truly brilliant.
On multiple other OP/threads that you’ve started in just the last hour alone, you’ve advocated for the Cardinals to be hard sellers at the deadline, so why are you so concerned about finding immediate “solutions” for replacing Mikolas (and his considerable innings contribution) “pronto” this season?
Actually, that's a pretty good point. Continue the carnage, what the hell.
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:21 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:11 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Dip [shirt] Shady has no idea who is healthy, unhealthy in the minors or is an available pitcher.
he's holding out hope that Roby pitches an inning or two in the Majors so he can beat his chest on here :lol:

it's rather funny.

And, yet, sad.
Pathetic actually. So needy and lacking
And chiming in from the peanut gallery. sillyscout.
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Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:26 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:21 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:11 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Dip [shirt] Shady has no idea who is healthy, unhealthy in the minors or is an available pitcher.
he's holding out hope that Roby pitches an inning or two in the Majors so he can beat his chest on here :lol:

it's rather funny.

And, yet, sad.
Pathetic actually. So needy and lacking
And chiming in from the peanut gallery.
Clueless about pitchers
Shady from the loners nuthouse and his dolls
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Re: So Marmol is actually running Mikolas back out there

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:27 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:26 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:21 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:11 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:25 pm
Shady wrote: 23 Jul 2025 17:17 pm Against a San Diego starter who has a 10 wins, two losses record with a 2.81 ERA. The circus continues.
you have to have pitchers who can throw a lot of innings start a game. We let Fedde go, McGreevy replaces him.

There's no one left in the cupboard to replace Mikolas. Too many injured pitchers or underperforming pitchers.

So...Mikolas pitches.

Not really a circus. It's necessity
Matz could have a gotten the start with proper planning. They really need Mathews and Roby to get ready, pronto.
Mathews...yes, I agree. But his fastball command is off. Roby, as you know, is 1) on the IL, and 2) having his innings carefully monitored b/c he hasn't been over 50 IP in nearly 3 years....and he's well over 50 now.

R O B Y isn't in the equation right now...for "obvious reasons"
Dip [shirt] Shady has no idea who is healthy, unhealthy in the minors or is an available pitcher.
he's holding out hope that Roby pitches an inning or two in the Majors so he can beat his chest on here :lol:

it's rather funny.

And, yet, sad.
Pathetic actually. So needy and lacking
And chiming in from the peanut gallery.
Clueless about pitchers
Shady from the loners nuthouse and his dolls
Oh, that really hurts. Not.
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I don't think Marmol has a say in the matter. Play the guys you have.

Those are the guys mo gave him
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