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Worth a try because what they are doing now isn’t working, hasn’t worked. Why has it taken so long?JuanAgosto wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 23:03 pmOli hinted the possibility of Leahy starting.Melville wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:51 pmLeahy was stretched out to 50 pitches.Baseball Savant wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:41 pm Not good enough and I’ve had enough was the message
Meanwhile Mo says…
Not a coincidence.
Then how did he throw that complete game shutout, 11WS?11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 06:10 am My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.
"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"
Contract.rightthinker4 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 07:52 amWorth a try because what they are doing now isn’t working, hasn’t worked. Why has it taken so long?JuanAgosto wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 23:03 pmOli hinted the possibility of Leahy starting.Melville wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:51 pmLeahy was stretched out to 50 pitches.Baseball Savant wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:41 pm Not good enough and I’ve had enough was the message
Meanwhile Mo says…
Not a coincidence.
+1...everybody who's watched his last 10 or so starts can see he's toast.. except that [fork]ing Mo-ran in the front office.11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 06:10 am My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.
"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"
The key for a pitcher is the ability to control the variables consistently- grip, release point, etc.- and also react to things like atmospheric conditions and the always variable strike zone. Pitchers talk about how the thin air in CO does not make it easy to control ball movement but of course the smart guys figure it out and change their pitch selection and execution. Fedde probably had a lucky game when he showed better concentration and got some breaks.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 07:56 amThen how did he throw that complete game shutout, 11WS?11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 06:10 am My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.
"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"
Isn’t that symptomatic of a problem with the pitching coach?hotrivets wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 08:13 amThe key for a pitcher is the ability to control the variables consistently- grip, release point, etc.- and also react to things like atmospheric conditions and the always variable strike zone. Pitchers talk about how the thin air in CO does not make it easy to control ball movement but of course the smart guys figure it out and change their pitch selection and execution. Fedde probably had a lucky game when he showed better concentration and got some breaks.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 07:56 amThen how did he throw that complete game shutout, 11WS?11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 06:10 am My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.
"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"
No [shirt]. He would still be one of the worst guys on our roster, where the bar is low.
Someone has to say it. The contract plays.hmoss859 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:50 pmDon't count on that he is owed 7 millionStrummer Jones wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:46 pm I'm with Oli on this. Fedde doesn't give us a chance to win and hasn't in many moons.
I only wish they'd see it more seriously with Mikolas, too.
Why is that surprising to posters?Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 08:22 amSomeone has to say it. The contract plays.hmoss859 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:50 pmDon't count on that he is owed 7 millionStrummer Jones wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:46 pm I'm with Oli on this. Fedde doesn't give us a chance to win and hasn't in many moons.
I only wish they'd see it more seriously with Mikolas, too.
Everybody gets a bite of the sandwich but I would imagine the coaching is less of an issue than the evaluation of talent and capability by the front office. Imagine the scene from Moneyball but with Mo tossing the magnets with player names at the board. "We need a RHP under $10 million."Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 08:15 amIsn’t that symptomatic of a problem with the pitching coach?hotrivets wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 08:13 amThe key for a pitcher is the ability to control the variables consistently- grip, release point, etc.- and also react to things like atmospheric conditions and the always variable strike zone. Pitchers talk about how the thin air in CO does not make it easy to control ball movement but of course the smart guys figure it out and change their pitch selection and execution. Fedde probably had a lucky game when he showed better concentration and got some breaks.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 07:56 amThen how did he throw that complete game shutout, 11WS?11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 06:10 am My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.
"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"
If the Cardinals cannot trade Fedde and Mikolas, simply DFA. Maybe moving Mikolas to the pen for a mop up role would change his mind about his no trade contract. Leahy's performance could be an indication that the Cards do see him as a future starter. If the Cards trade Helsley, who takes on the role as closer?Melville wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:51 pmLeahy was stretched out to 50 pitches.Baseball Savant wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:41 pm Not good enough and I’ve had enough was the message
Meanwhile Mo says…
Not a coincidence.
Well he was worth it to the Dodgers who won a WS because of him and would not have without him. It doesn’t matter if he never gets another hit it was worth the trade for them. They also got Kopech who helped them win. WS got a young third baseman who is doing ok so far. The Cardinals were the loser in that trade. Feddee did ok last year but not good enough for Cards to make the playoffs and is terrible this year.
Great. You'd be (bleep) about the contract they gave him going forward.kyace wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 08:46 amWell he was worth it to the Dodgers who won a WS because of him and would not have without him. It doesn’t matter if he never gets another hit it was worth the trade for them. They also got Kopech who helped them win. WS got a young third baseman who is doing ok so far. The Cardinals were the loser in that trade. Feddee did ok last year but not good enough for Cards to make the playoffs and is terrible this year.
He got lucky? And it was against the Nationals.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 07:56 amThen how did he throw that complete game shutout, 11WS?11WSChamps wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 06:10 am My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.
"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"
If Helsey and Maton are moved, O'Brien, Graceffo, and Svanson will be looked at for late inning roles.redbirdfan51 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 08:39 amIf the Cardinals cannot trade Fedde and Mikolas, simply DFA. Maybe moving Mikolas to the pen for a mop up role would change his mind about his no trade contract. Leahy's performance could be an indication that the Cards do see him as a future starter. If the Cards trade Helsley, who takes on the role as closer?Melville wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:51 pmLeahy was stretched out to 50 pitches.Baseball Savant wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 22:41 pm Not good enough and I’ve had enough was the message
Meanwhile Mo says…
Not a coincidence.
