Postgame Oli on Fedde

[rightthinker4]

Not good enough and I’ve had enough was the message

Meanwhile Mo says…

Leahy was stretched out to 50 pitches.
Not a coincidence.

Oli hinted the possibility of Leahy starting.

Worth a try because what they are doing now isn’t working, hasn’t worked. Why has it taken so long?

[Cranny]

My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.

"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"

Then how did he throw that complete game shutout, 11WS?

[Melville]

Not good enough and I’ve had enough was the message

Meanwhile Mo says…

Leahy was stretched out to 50 pitches.
Not a coincidence.

Oli hinted the possibility of Leahy starting.

Worth a try because what they are doing now isn’t working, hasn’t worked. Why has it taken so long?

Contract.
Standings.
Trade deadline.
Everything except playing the games.
The Cardinals do not make baseball decisions.

[WLTFE]

My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.

"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"

+1...everybody who's watched his last 10 or so starts can see he's toast.. except that [fork]ing Mo-ran in the front office.

[hotrivets]

My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.

"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"

Then how did he throw that complete game shutout, 11WS?

The key for a pitcher is the ability to control the variables consistently- grip, release point, etc.- and also react to things like atmospheric conditions and the always variable strike zone. Pitchers talk about how the thin air in CO does not make it easy to control ball movement but of course the smart guys figure it out and change their pitch selection and execution. Fedde probably had a lucky game when he showed better concentration and got some breaks.

[Cranny]

My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.

"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"

Then how did he throw that complete game shutout, 11WS?

The key for a pitcher is the ability to control the variables consistently- grip, release point, etc.- and also react to things like atmospheric conditions and the always variable strike zone. Pitchers talk about how the thin air in CO does not make it easy to control ball movement but of course the smart guys figure it out and change their pitch selection and execution. Fedde probably had a lucky game when he showed better concentration and got some breaks.

Isn’t that symptomatic of a problem with the pitching coach?

[scoutyjones2]

and this is what we threw away Tommy Edman for

LoL. TGTE is no big loss

[CorneliusWolfe]

and this is what we threw away Tommy Edman for

LoL. TGTE is no big loss

No [shirt]. He would still be one of the worst guys on our roster, where the bar is low.

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

I'm with Oli on this. Fedde doesn't give us a chance to win and hasn't in many moons.

I only wish they'd see it more seriously with Mikolas, too.

Don't count on that he is owed 7 million

Someone has to say it. The contract plays.

[scoutyjones2]

I'm with Oli on this. Fedde doesn't give us a chance to win and hasn't in many moons.

I only wish they'd see it more seriously with Mikolas, too.

Don't count on that he is owed 7 million

Someone has to say it. The contract plays.

Why is that surprising to posters?

[hotrivets]

My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.

"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"

Then how did he throw that complete game shutout, 11WS?

The key for a pitcher is the ability to control the variables consistently- grip, release point, etc.- and also react to things like atmospheric conditions and the always variable strike zone. Pitchers talk about how the thin air in CO does not make it easy to control ball movement but of course the smart guys figure it out and change their pitch selection and execution. Fedde probably had a lucky game when he showed better concentration and got some breaks.

Isn’t that symptomatic of a problem with the pitching coach?

Everybody gets a bite of the sandwich but I would imagine the coaching is less of an issue than the evaluation of talent and capability by the front office. Imagine the scene from Moneyball but with Mo tossing the magnets with player names at the board. "We need a RHP under $10 million."

[redbirdfan51]

Not good enough and I’ve had enough was the message

Meanwhile Mo says…

Leahy was stretched out to 50 pitches.
Not a coincidence.

If the Cardinals cannot trade Fedde and Mikolas, simply DFA. Maybe moving Mikolas to the pen for a mop up role would change his mind about his no trade contract. Leahy's performance could be an indication that the Cards do see him as a future starter. If the Cards trade Helsley, who takes on the role as closer?

[kyace]

and this is what we threw away Tommy Edman for

LoL. TGTE is no big loss

Well he was worth it to the Dodgers who won a WS because of him and would not have without him. It doesn’t matter if he never gets another hit it was worth the trade for them. They also got Kopech who helped them win. WS got a young third baseman who is doing ok so far. The Cardinals were the loser in that trade. Feddee did ok last year but not good enough for Cards to make the playoffs and is terrible this year.

[scoutyjones2]

and this is what we threw away Tommy Edman for

LoL. TGTE is no big loss

Well he was worth it to the Dodgers who won a WS because of him and would not have without him. It doesn’t matter if he never gets another hit it was worth the trade for them. They also got Kopech who helped them win. WS got a young third baseman who is doing ok so far. The Cardinals were the loser in that trade. Feddee did ok last year but not good enough for Cards to make the playoffs and is terrible this year.

Great. You'd be (bleep) about the contract they gave him going forward.

[icon]

My first impression of Fedde turned out to accurate.

"How does he get anyone out with that [shirt] he throws?"

Then how did he throw that complete game shutout, 11WS?

He got lucky? And it was against the Nationals.

[Melville]

Not good enough and I’ve had enough was the message

Meanwhile Mo says…

Leahy was stretched out to 50 pitches.
Not a coincidence.

If the Cardinals cannot trade Fedde and Mikolas, simply DFA. Maybe moving Mikolas to the pen for a mop up role would change his mind about his no trade contract. Leahy's performance could be an indication that the Cards do see him as a future starter. If the Cards trade Helsley, who takes on the role as closer?

If Helsey and Maton are moved, O'Brien, Graceffo, and Svanson will be looked at for late inning roles.
Granillo will return and will be in the general relief mix.
Romero is a wild card - could be moved, could stay - depending on offers.
Worth noting Leahy was a starter for 4 seasons in the minors, so it is not an unfamiliar role to him.