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An Old Friend wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 20:27 pm

cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 18:28 pm Soto draws so many walks that he isn't likely to get close to 3,000 hits IMHO.

He would have to have one extremely healthy and long career.

True, as he likely ends up top 10 all time in walks.

9 of the top 30 all time in walks also have 3,000 hits, but I think just 2 of the top 10.

He’s got 14 years left on his contract and would need to average about 137 hits a year to get there.

Wow. 14 years left on his contract. At my age he might have more years left on his contract than I have left on mine.

Altuve & Freeman are both in their age 35 season (Freddie turns 36 in Sept) and 600+ hits shy, I don't see them getting there.

With the money star players make (and anyone approaching 3,000 hits would be in that $35+M AAV category) I don't see them staying around long enough to get to 3,000 hits.

The only one I see w/a shot and it's a LONG SHOT is Vladdy, Jr.

(Soto is injury prone and walks too much so he may fall short unless he starts getting more hits, less walks)

Like 200 wins for a pitcher, the 3,000 hit club isn't going to get many more new members.

JMO

I don't think we will see another player get 3,000 hits.

An Old Friend wrote: ↑21 Jul 2025 16:54 pm Mookie Betts
Bobby Witt
Juan Soto

Good choices! Especially Witt as he has the talent to be that type of hitter, health permitting. Of course that’s key for longevity with any talented athlete.

I’ll go with Freeman and Machado.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 am Altuve & Freeman are both in their age 35 season (Freddie turns 36 in Sept) and 600+ hits shy, I don't see them getting there.

With the money star players make (and anyone approaching 3,000 hits would be in that $35+M AAV category) I don't see them staying around long enough to get to 3,000 hits.

The only one I see w/a shot and it's a LONG SHOT is Vladdy, Jr.

(Soto is injury prone and walks too much so he may fall short unless he starts getting more hits, less walks)

Like 200 wins for a pitcher, the 3,000 hit club isn't going to get many more new members.

JMO

Like… serious question… who are you mistaking Soto with? Injury prone?? Has he EVER been injured?

Vladdy, Jr 26 yrs old would have to average 180 hits for the next 11 seasons........only current player I see w/a chance at 3,000.

He's averaged 178 hits a year in his career.



These mentioned have a slim to no chance:

Witt, Jr 25 yrs old would have to average 180 hits a season for the next 13 years to reach 3,000....very slim chance.

Soto turns 27 in Oct, he would have to average 180 hits a season for the next 11 years to reach 3,000.....no chance
(Soto's career high is only 166 hits, he walks too much and is hurt too much)

Betts turns 33 in Oct, he'd have to average 185 hits a year to age 40 to reach 3,000......no chance

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 11:00 am Vladdy, Jr 26 yrs old would have to average 180 hits for the next 11 seasons........only current player I see w/a chance at 3,000.

He's averaged 178 hits a year in his career.



These mentioned have a slim to no chance:

Witt, Jr 25 yrs old would have to average 180 hits a season for the next 13 years to reach 3,000....very slim chance.

Soto turns 27 in Oct, he would have to average 180 hits a season for the next 11 years to reach 3,000.....no chance
(Soto's career high is only 166 hits, he walks too much and is hurt too much)

Betts turns 33 in Oct, he'd have to average 185 hits a year to age 40 to reach 3,000......no chance

Soto has 14 years left on his contract. Who are you confusing him with regarding injuries? You’ve said it twice.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 am Soto is injury prone

Anyone else have any clue who rock has mistaken Soto for since he won’t answer it himself?

Still waiting for rock to clarify why he thinks Soto is injury prone.

OR, he could just say he was wrong. That would be easy and show some integrity.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 11:00 am Vladdy, Jr 26 yrs old would have to average 180 hits for the next 11 seasons........only current player I see w/a chance at 3,000.

He's averaged 178 hits a year in his career.



These mentioned have a slim to no chance:

Witt, Jr 25 yrs old would have to average 180 hits a season for the next 13 years to reach 3,000....very slim chance.

Soto turns 27 in Oct, he would have to average 180 hits a season for the next 11 years to reach 3,000.....no chance
(Soto's career high is only 166 hits, he walks too much and is hurt too much)

Betts turns 33 in Oct, he'd have to average 185 hits a year to age 40 to reach 3,000......no chance

In the old days, we would factor in some 200 hit seasons for Bobby Witt Jr. to give him a chance. But until players get to 2,000 hits, I don't really project anyone because of the injury issue and the age related decline issues.

Freeman is playing at such a high level still I think he has a > 50% chance to make it. Altuve is declining now, so I would put him under 50%.

Mike Trout is the quintessential player to look at when we start projecting too early. Injuries just decimated him. None of his counting stats will be that great, albeit, he will make it to the HOF based on his 2012-2020 run as the best player in baseball. But, after that...I wonder if his contract is the worst of all-time...

I’ll go with Freeman and Witt

An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 12:26 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 am Soto is injury prone

Anyone else have any clue who rock has mistaken Soto for since he won’t answer it himself?

Rock can most likely see into the future as I am able to…..

Witt is the guy….if stays healthy

150
177
211
On pace for 185-190 this year

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 15:51 pm

An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 12:26 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 am Soto is injury prone

Anyone else have any clue who rock has mistaken Soto for since he won’t answer it himself?

Rock can most likely see into the future as I am able to…..

Haha. It seems he’s uncomfortable defending the statement, huh?

An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 16:24 pm

Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 15:51 pm

An Old Friend wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 12:26 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 09:22 am Soto is injury prone

Anyone else have any clue who rock has mistaken Soto for since he won’t answer it himself?

Rock can most likely see into the future as I am able to…..

Haha. It seems he’s uncomfortable defending the statement, huh?

Soto has only had one 165 hit year. And not getting there this year.