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Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 21:55 pm Bloom is going to have a mess that mo leaves him to clean up. If you put mcgreevy in the rotation you still need two other starters next season Mathews walks too many to say yes hes ready and roby and hence are never healthy

rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 08:32 am Hopefully C. Bloom moves on from Pallante who's regressed terribly, he's nothing but a low end #5 and can easily be replaced

CNYFan wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 09:54 am The fastball is good +, the slider is passable.

No change or curve kills Andre. The hitters can sit and wait with no worry of off speed or change

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 10:54 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 08:32 am Hopefully C. Bloom moves on from Pallante who's regressed terribly, he's nothing but a low end #5 and can easily be replaced

By whom? And for how much?

rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 11:08 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 10:54 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 08:32 am Hopefully C. Bloom moves on from Pallante who's regressed terribly, he's nothing but a low end #5 and can easily be replaced

By whom? And for how much?

Mikolas/Fedde/Matz gone at seasons end or sooner, hopefully BDWJr doesn't pocket that $38.6M and he let's Bloom re-invest it in pitching.

M. McGreevy could replace Pallante.

I expect L. Doyle could be here sometime in 2026 as well.

Plenty of options, move on from Pallante who's quickly becoming J.A.G.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 11:12 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 11:08 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 10:54 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 08:32 am Hopefully C. Bloom moves on from Pallante who's regressed terribly, he's nothing but a low end #5 and can easily be replaced

By whom? And for how much?

Mikolas/Fedde/Matz gone at seasons end or sooner, hopefully BDWJr doesn't pocket that $38.6M and he let's Bloom re-invest it in pitching.

M. McGreevy could replace Pallante.

I expect L. Doyle could be here sometime in 2026 as well.

Plenty of options, move on from Pallante who's quickly becoming J.A.G.

Yall quit bashing my boy- Ha.
He is a number five. Every team needs one. But giving up five in 3 innings is too steep. Even for me.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 11:20 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 11:12 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 11:08 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 10:54 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 08:32 am Hopefully C. Bloom moves on from Pallante who's regressed terribly, he's nothing but a low end #5 and can easily be replaced

By whom? And for how much?

Mikolas/Fedde/Matz gone at seasons end or sooner, hopefully BDWJr doesn't pocket that $38.6M and he let's Bloom re-invest it in pitching.

M. McGreevy could replace Pallante.

I expect L. Doyle could be here sometime in 2026 as well.

Plenty of options, move on from Pallante who's quickly becoming J.A.G.

Yall quit bashing my boy- Ha.
He is a number five. Every team needs one. But giving up five in 3 innings is too steep. Even for me.

Sorry BDog

But even a #5 on a playoff aspirant team has to be able to give his team a shot at winning and Pallante is trending downward.

He's doesn't fit the new mold of starter Bloom is building (re: this years draft = POWER PITCHERS).

Pallante has a career 6.2 SO9 (terrible) and is a ground ball specialist.

I think they move on.

bretto12 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 22:31 pm Explain to me how ego and stubbornness led to Cardinal problems. The game changed on them. Drafting in the mid 20's they could not get the top talent and with salaries thru the roof, they can't buy the top talent. Only 5 major league teams have smaller populations than the Cardinals. They are KC, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Cincy and the Pirates. Those 5 teams have had a very hard time competing. The Brewers won the central but look at the competition.
STL has no choice but to build from within and that will be a continuous process. Compete for 3 or 4, then lose your best players to FA. Then rebuild again. MLB must get a salary floor and a salary Cap and revenue sharing, just like the NFL. That system lets Buffalo and Cincy compete, The players will still get their money but it will not all be in the 6 major markets. They may have to go to Cleveland to get their 30 million a year. Last year the Dodgers spent a Billion dollars on salaries and are ready to add more. They get more in local TV money than the Cards get from all sources. It is impossible to compete for any length of time with the current system and there will be a strike after next season as the owners try to create a more level playing field.