Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:17 pm
Aesa wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:05 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 20:40 pm
Aesa wrote: 08 Jul 2025 20:14 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 18:56 pm
rezero wrote: 08 Jul 2025 17:15 pm I like the signing. His MO was he plays up to the lines he is assigned. Vancouver would use him on the 3rd and 4th line and then complain about his productivity. The first half of last year they had him on the 4th line with Suter-Blueger-Sherwood. When they moved him up he started playing better and scoring more. By the end of the year he was a 2nd-3rd line player depending upon who was injured. His issue is he is not very good on faceoffs and not really a play maker so teams will also use him on wing, but he can score and can play any position on any line and be productive. What Blues fans will like is he has a little bit of the Saad / Neighbors mentality where he loves working in the crease and always pestering the goalie. He is a garbage goal magnet.
I wish I could get on the ice for about 25 faceoffs. I need to see how the WIN/LOSS works exactly in real life. To me, the other guys on the team (not taking the faceoff) play a big part is who gets the puck and "wins" the faceoff.
I am certain there are a large number of posters that would like to see you take faceoffs against Sunny, Schenn or Thomas. They would eat you alive.
I'm flattered. I was unaware that there were some who want to watch my athletic toughness and skill. Please DM me, and I'll let you know where to set up your lawn chair.
If your ego gets any bigger, there won't be room on the planet for any humans.
Aesa, no matter how big, I'll always reserve a spot on my planet for your lawn chair. Fear not.
I rest my case.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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Top 10 list of free agent contracts according to the Athletic. Pius Suter listed as the 2nd best free agent contract signed this summer. They have Bjugstad listed 10th.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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The best at what was out there at a reasonable price.
Good pickup given the situation.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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Aesa wrote: 09 Jul 2025 09:43 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:17 pm
Aesa wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:05 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 20:40 pm
Aesa wrote: 08 Jul 2025 20:14 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 18:56 pm
rezero wrote: 08 Jul 2025 17:15 pm I like the signing. His MO was he plays up to the lines he is assigned. Vancouver would use him on the 3rd and 4th line and then complain about his productivity. The first half of last year they had him on the 4th line with Suter-Blueger-Sherwood. When they moved him up he started playing better and scoring more. By the end of the year he was a 2nd-3rd line player depending upon who was injured. His issue is he is not very good on faceoffs and not really a play maker so teams will also use him on wing, but he can score and can play any position on any line and be productive. What Blues fans will like is he has a little bit of the Saad / Neighbors mentality where he loves working in the crease and always pestering the goalie. He is a garbage goal magnet.
I wish I could get on the ice for about 25 faceoffs. I need to see how the WIN/LOSS works exactly in real life. To me, the other guys on the team (not taking the faceoff) play a big part is who gets the puck and "wins" the faceoff.
I am certain there are a large number of posters that would like to see you take faceoffs against Sunny, Schenn or Thomas. They would eat you alive.
I'm flattered. I was unaware that there were some who want to watch my athletic toughness and skill. Please DM me, and I'll let you know where to set up your lawn chair.
If your ego gets any bigger, there won't be room on the planet for any humans.
Aesa, no matter how big, I'll always reserve a spot on my planet for your lawn chair. Fear not.
I rest my case.
No kidding! He's a real space cadet, space traveler, waste of space.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 16:58 pm I'm warming up to Pius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZukda6-U1g

Sounds like he wants to be in St Louis.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/gradin ... 34898.html
a lot of EN goals and goals against bad teams and backup goalies. Very few against quality competition.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:00 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 16:58 pm I'm warming up to Pius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZukda6-U1g

Sounds like he wants to be in St Louis.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/gradin ... 34898.html
a lot of EN goals and goals against bad teams and backup goalies. Very few against quality competition.
Three EN goals. Scored a SH goal vs Blues and Hofer Jan 27.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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DawgDad wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:13 am
aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:00 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 16:58 pm I'm warming up to Pius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZukda6-U1g

Sounds like he wants to be in St Louis.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/gradin ... 34898.html
a lot of EN goals and goals against bad teams and backup goalies. Very few against quality competition.
Three EN goals. Scored a SH goal vs Blues and Hofer Jan 27.

I mean..ya. making my point I guess? I suppose you gotta score against the bad teams and backups as well, but not a lot there against quality matchups.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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I like these moves overall. Obviously, I wished for a Tavares or an immediate upgrade to Faulk but that's just that - wishful thinking.

This gives the Blues depth at center and flexibility in the bottom six. The moves do not block youngsters from spots and also helps ensure the youngsters have to compete and earn their looks.

I also agree with most of you that we still need veteran defense depth for this year. We probably sign a PTO defenseman or 2 and sign one when Krug goes to LTIR.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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Boomac wrote: 12 Jul 2025 10:53 am I like these moves overall. Obviously, I wished for a Tavares or an immediate upgrade to Faulk but that's just that - wishful thinking.

This gives the Blues depth at center and flexibility in the bottom six. The moves do not block youngsters from spots and also helps ensure the youngsters have to compete and earn their looks.

I also agree with most of you that we still need veteran defense depth for this year. We probably sign a PTO defenseman or 2 and sign one when Krug goes to LTIR.
wonder if they bring Suter back as the 7th dman
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:22 am
DawgDad wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:13 am
aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:00 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 16:58 pm I'm warming up to Pius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZukda6-U1g

Sounds like he wants to be in St Louis.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/gradin ... 34898.html
a lot of EN goals and goals against bad teams and backup goalies. Very few against quality competition.
Three EN goals. Scored a SH goal vs Blues and Hofer Jan 27.

I mean..ya. making my point I guess? I suppose you gotta score against the bad teams and backups as well, but not a lot there against quality matchups.
The EN goals are a GOOD thing from the Blues perspective.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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DawgDad wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:04 am
aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:22 am
DawgDad wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:13 am
aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:00 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 16:58 pm I'm warming up to Pius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZukda6-U1g

Sounds like he wants to be in St Louis.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/gradin ... 34898.html
a lot of EN goals and goals against bad teams and backup goalies. Very few against quality competition.
Three EN goals. Scored a SH goal vs Blues and Hofer Jan 27.

I mean..ya. making my point I guess? I suppose you gotta score against the bad teams and backups as well, but not a lot there against quality matchups.
The EN goals are a GOOD thing from the Blues perspective.

Ok... I'm happy to take them, but the point is, this guy is not exactly a game breaker and really doesn't move the needle when it comes to chasing down Colorado and Dallas. Certainly seems better than the alternative for the short term, but if goal scoring is the draw for this guy, people are likely going to be disappointed.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 16:19 pm
DawgDad wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:04 am
aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:22 am
DawgDad wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:13 am
aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:00 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 16:58 pm I'm warming up to Pius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZukda6-U1g

Sounds like he wants to be in St Louis.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/gradin ... 34898.html
a lot of EN goals and goals against bad teams and backup goalies. Very few against quality competition.
Three EN goals. Scored a SH goal vs Blues and Hofer Jan 27.

I mean..ya. making my point I guess? I suppose you gotta score against the bad teams and backups as well, but not a lot there against quality matchups.
The EN goals are a GOOD thing from the Blues perspective.

Ok... I'm happy to take them, but the point is, this guy is not exactly a game breaker and really doesn't move the needle when it comes to chasing down Colorado and Dallas. Certainly seems better than the alternative for the short term, but if goal scoring is the draw for this guy, people are likely going to be disappointed.
Goal scoring is not the draw. It's his overall game, 2-way play, and PK ability. Perhaps he could help us on 6v5 end of game scenarios.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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DawgDad wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:13 am
aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:00 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 16:58 pm I'm warming up to Pius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZukda6-U1g

Sounds like he wants to be in St Louis.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/gradin ... 34898.html
a lot of EN goals and goals against bad teams and backup goalies. Very few against quality competition.
Three EN goals. Scored a SH goal vs Blues and Hofer Jan 27.
Lots of EN goals tells me he was on the ice at crunch time and took advantage. How many 6 on 5 goals did the Blues give up this year? Oh yeah, TWO in G7. If Suter can help, that alone makes it a good signing. They didn’t help themselves in that regard on the back line.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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Red7 wrote: 13 Jul 2025 11:03 am
DawgDad wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:13 am
aslord wrote: 12 Jul 2025 08:00 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Jul 2025 16:58 pm I'm warming up to Pius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZukda6-U1g

Sounds like he wants to be in St Louis.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/gradin ... 34898.html
a lot of EN goals and goals against bad teams and backup goalies. Very few against quality competition.
Three EN goals. Scored a SH goal vs Blues and Hofer Jan 27.
Lots of EN goals tells me he was on the ice at crunch time and took advantage. How many 6 on 5 goals did the Blues give up this year? Oh yeah, TWO in G7. If Suter can help, that alone makes it a good signing. They didn’t help themselves in that regard on the back line.
Good point. I used to think EN goals were just a stat ladder and should not be counted, but after the last 2 years I now realize it is an art that should be coveted.
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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Kinda slow...

So what line/position will Suter land on to start the season?

60% 2nd Line Center
35% 3rd Line Center
5% 3rd Line Wing

100% 2nd Line Penalty Kill
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Re: Thoughts on Pius Suter?

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Reading on the HF boards, one thing they say they will miss is his tip in ability. I doubt he is in the Kopitar class, but need someone who can play in the middle and help direct the defensemans bombs.
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