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peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 14:36 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:39 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Mo talk Add mans to try to sneak in as last wild card. Fans want add to mean they to win a WS. That’s the disconnect

They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2006. They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2011. And they weren’t favored to make it into the WS in 2013.
I doubt if they’ll ever be favored in the future, unless the development system works excellently.

While all of that is true, there is no one on this team that even resembles Pujols, Yadi, Edmonds, Holiday, Cris Carp or Wainwright like those teams had.

Very few of those across MLB

Very few of what? Really good players? Maybe check out the All Star game and you’ll find them. It’s just they don’t play for us

Absolut wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:54 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Did he get drilled by an errant ball? Shh. Don’t answer. Let the mystery hang out there.

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:39 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Mo talk Add mans to try to sneak in as last wild card. Fans want add to mean they to win a WS. That’s the disconnect

They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2006. They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2011. And they weren’t favored to make it into the WS in 2013.
I doubt if they’ll ever be favored in the future, unless the development system works excellently.

While all of that is true, there is no one on this team that even resembles Pujols, Yadi, Edmonds, Holiday, Cris Carp or Wainwright like those teams had.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:45 pm Mo isn't committing to anything because he doesn't want to do anything at the trade deadline. BDW needs to hand full power to make decisions. Mo is a lazy (donkey) and is biding time coasting to retirement.

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:52 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:39 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Mo talk Add mans to try to sneak in as last wild card. Fans want add to mean they to win a WS. That’s the disconnect

They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2006. They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2011. And they weren’t favored to make it into the WS in 2013.
I doubt if they’ll ever be favored in the future, unless the development system works excellently.

While all of that is true, there is no one on this team that even resembles Pujols, Yadi, Edmonds, Holiday, Cris Carp or Wainwright like those teams had.

Very few of those across MLB

Dodgers Braves Yankees Phillies and several others have 3+ future hOFers in their prime. Cardinals have 0 and those years the Cardinals had a top 5 farm and top 10 payroll.

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 14:54 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:45 pm Mo isn't committing to anything because he doesn't want to do anything at the trade deadline. BDW needs to hand full power to make decisions. Mo is a lazy (donkey) and is biding time coasting to retirement.

I have another theory. I'm not sure that it's true that he doesn't want to do anything, or is lazy. I think he avoids actions because he doesn't know how. He doesn't know who to trade for, who to trade away, or who to sign, so he does as little as possible. Better to be called cautious, or lazy than to be discovered as a fraud.

Bushiro wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 14:40 pm

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 14:36 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:39 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Mo talk Add mans to try to sneak in as last wild card. Fans want add to mean they to win a WS. That’s the disconnect

They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2006. They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2011. And they weren’t favored to make it into the WS in 2013.
I doubt if they’ll ever be favored in the future, unless the development system works excellently.

While all of that is true, there is no one on this team that even resembles Pujols, Yadi, Edmonds, Holiday, Cris Carp or Wainwright like those teams had.

Very few of those across MLB

Very few of what? Really good players? Maybe check out the All Star game and you’ll find them. It’s just they don’t play for us

Yeah and when Micheal Busch is better than anything you have in your line up your in trouble

ramfandan wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 14:56 pm When Jimmy asked him about Mo approach as bring business , he discussed about some things he didn’t like in his job, without going into specifics.

He seems to be burned out. He decided a year ago he wanted out but stayed on this year .
The lower attendance and decreased revenues have taken their toll.
Hoping Bloom is more upbeat and positive. It’s like Mo can ‘t wait to walk out the door. Bye bye

Fans need to see some personality , smiles ,and enthusiasm.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 15:04 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:52 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:39 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Mo talk Add mans to try to sneak in as last wild card. Fans want add to mean they to win a WS. That’s the disconnect

They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2006. They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2011. And they weren’t favored to make it into the WS in 2013.
I doubt if they’ll ever be favored in the future, unless the development system works excellently.

While all of that is true, there is no one on this team that even resembles Pujols, Yadi, Edmonds, Holiday, Cris Carp or Wainwright like those teams had.

Very few of those across MLB

Dodgers Braves Yankees Phillies and several others have 3+ future hOFers in their prime. Cardinals have 0 and those years the Cardinals had a top 5 farm and top 10 payroll.

How many from their farm?

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:54 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:52 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:39 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Mo talk Add mans to try to sneak in as last wild card. Fans want add to mean they to win a WS. That’s the disconnect

They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2006. They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2011. And they weren’t favored to make it into the WS in 2013.
I doubt if they’ll ever be favored in the future, unless the development system works excellently.

While all of that is true, there is no one on this team that even resembles Pujols, Yadi, Edmonds, Holiday, Cris Carp or Wainwright like those teams had.

Very few of those across MLB

Dodgers Braves Yankees Phillies and several others have 3+ future hOFers in their prime. Cardinals have 0 and those years the Cardinals had a top 5 farm and top 10 payroll.

Payroll was high due to Mo handling out stupid contracts.

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 15:31 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:54 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:52 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:39 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Mo talk Add mans to try to sneak in as last wild card. Fans want add to mean they to win a WS. That’s the disconnect

They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2006. They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2011. And they weren’t favored to make it into the WS in 2013.
I doubt if they’ll ever be favored in the future, unless the development system works excellently.

While all of that is true, there is no one on this team that even resembles Pujols, Yadi, Edmonds, Holiday, Cris Carp or Wainwright like those teams had.

Very few of those across MLB

Dodgers Braves Yankees Phillies and several others have 3+ future hOFers in their prime. Cardinals have 0 and those years the Cardinals had a top 5 farm and top 10 payroll.

Payroll was high due to Mo handling out stupid contracts.

No it wasn’t. Every WS the Cardinals won they had a top 5 farm and most importantly a top 10 payroll. That is currently $215. And the Cardinals are at $130m with another $40m coming off this year. Until that formula is resumed we will not have a wS caliber team. Mediocrity is the new standard

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 15:28 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 15:04 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:52 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:39 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Mo talk Add mans to try to sneak in as last wild card. Fans want add to mean they to win a WS. That’s the disconnect

They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2006. They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2011. And they weren’t favored to make it into the WS in 2013.
I doubt if they’ll ever be favored in the future, unless the development system works excellently.

While all of that is true, there is no one on this team that even resembles Pujols, Yadi, Edmonds, Holiday, Cris Carp or Wainwright like those teams had.

Very few of those across MLB

Dodgers Braves Yankees Phillies and several others have 3+ future hOFers in their prime. Cardinals have 0 and those years the Cardinals had a top 5 farm and top 10 payroll.

How many from their farm?

Who cares where they came from and ATL almost all of them. We go to watch elite stars. There is a reason teams do t draft fans and it’s all about star power.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

An Old Friend wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 16:00 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Need to get healthy?

They’ve got to be (bleep) near the healthiest team, what the hell is he talking about?

He really does think everyone is stupid.

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 15:42 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 15:31 pm

JuanAgosto wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:54 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:52 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:39 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Youboughtit wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 13:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025 12:53 pm Trade deadline

-Tough to answer today

-He'd like to add but wants to see where they are over next 25 days

-Need to get healthy

-Hererra further along than thought, hopefully re-hab prior to ASB

-Wouldn't commit to anything specific

Mo talk Add mans to try to sneak in as last wild card. Fans want add to mean they to win a WS. That’s the disconnect

They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2006. They weren’t favored to win the WS in 2011. And they weren’t favored to make it into the WS in 2013.
I doubt if they’ll ever be favored in the future, unless the development system works excellently.

While all of that is true, there is no one on this team that even resembles Pujols, Yadi, Edmonds, Holiday, Cris Carp or Wainwright like those teams had.

Very few of those across MLB

Dodgers Braves Yankees Phillies and several others have 3+ future hOFers in their prime. Cardinals have 0 and those years the Cardinals had a top 5 farm and top 10 payroll.

Payroll was high due to Mo handling out stupid contracts.

No it wasn’t. Every WS the Cardinals won they had a top 5 farm and most importantly a top 10 payroll. That is currently $215. And the Cardinals are at $130m with another $40m coming off this year. Until that formula is resumed we will not have a wS caliber team. Mediocrity is the new standard

I was talking about payroll numbers after 2013. Leake, Holland, Gregerson, Fowler, Miller, Cecil, etc. Those idiotic contracts inflated the payroll with very little to show for it.