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rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:41 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

I'll start a Go-Fund Me page next week for poor BDWJr

I hate go-fund- me...

Midrange Jay wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:45 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:15 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Link? Many a time a CTer posts what they interpret, vs is what was actually said...

That is a reasonable request, and I haven’t seen anything resembling an actual quote.

Thank you.

You won't get one...

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

I have noticed you haven’t chimed in with this stance on any of the recent attendance posts.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:43 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Doesn’t work. Developing players is a slow and hit and miss. Acquiring a proven vet is the way.

the key point in your post is "a"

this organization needs a lot more than one player.....

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

Where does “their” money come from? Maybe they don’t need as much if they’re not going to give folks a reason to give them more.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:55 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

Where does “their” money come from? Maybe they don’t need as much if they’re not going to give folks a reason to give them more.

Well, you realize these owners are billionaires..
.or maybe, you are just clueless.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:59 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:55 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

Where does “their” money come from? Maybe they don’t need as much if they’re not going to give folks a reason to give them more.

Well, you realize these owners are billionaires..
.or maybe, you are just clueless.

And what made them billionaires? I don’t expect him to spend his Arby’s cash — but the Cardinals have generated him plenty of money to reinvest.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:01 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:59 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:55 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

Where does “their” money come from? Maybe they don’t need as much if they’re not going to give folks a reason to give them more.

Well, you realize these owners are billionaires..
.or maybe, you are just clueless.

And what made them billionaires? I don’t expect him to spend his Arby’s cash — but the Cardinals have generated him plenty of money to reinvest.

Telling highly successful businessman/ billionaires how to spend the money they made. That sounds logical...

I will toss this back to you. "And what made them billionaire"

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:05 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:01 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:59 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:55 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

Where does “their” money come from? Maybe they don’t need as much if they’re not going to give folks a reason to give them more.

Well, you realize these owners are billionaires..
.or maybe, you are just clueless.

And what made them billionaires? I don’t expect him to spend his Arby’s cash — but the Cardinals have generated him plenty of money to reinvest.

Telling highly successful businessman/ billionaires how to spend the money they made. That sounds logical...

I will toss this back to you. "And what made them billionaire"

Of course it’s not logical. Just like it would be illogical to give him more money to not spend. Fortunately the attendance is trending that way.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:07 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:05 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:01 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:59 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:55 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

Where does “their” money come from? Maybe they don’t need as much if they’re not going to give folks a reason to give them more.

Well, you realize these owners are billionaires..
.or maybe, you are just clueless.

And what made them billionaires? I don’t expect him to spend his Arby’s cash — but the Cardinals have generated him plenty of money to reinvest.

Telling highly successful businessman/ billionaires how to spend the money they made. That sounds logical...

I will toss this back to you. "And what made them billionaire"

Of course it’s not logical. Just like it would be illogical to give him more money to not spend. Fortunately the attendance is trending that way.

That's a fans/consumers best way to show displeasure with a business
..stop giving them your money

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

And think of all the crying posts that would happen when they trade away a player that has success for another team

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:10 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:07 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:05 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:01 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:59 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:55 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

Where does “their” money come from? Maybe they don’t need as much if they’re not going to give folks a reason to give them more.

Well, you realize these owners are billionaires..
.or maybe, you are just clueless.

And what made them billionaires? I don’t expect him to spend his Arby’s cash — but the Cardinals have generated him plenty of money to reinvest.

Telling highly successful businessman/ billionaires how to spend the money they made. That sounds logical...

I will toss this back to you. "And what made them billionaire"

Of course it’s not logical. Just like it would be illogical to give him more money to not spend. Fortunately the attendance is trending that way.

That's a fans/consumers best way to show displeasure with a business
..stop giving them your money

Exactly. Attendance/money is earned and they haven’t earned it. I’d be shocked if they didn’t make some kind of splash in free agency this winter. They have to do something to try and convince people they care.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:17 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:10 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:07 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:05 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:01 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:59 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:55 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

Where does “their” money come from? Maybe they don’t need as much if they’re not going to give folks a reason to give them more.

Well, you realize these owners are billionaires..
.or maybe, you are just clueless.

And what made them billionaires? I don’t expect him to spend his Arby’s cash — but the Cardinals have generated him plenty of money to reinvest.

Telling highly successful businessman/ billionaires how to spend the money they made. That sounds logical...

I will toss this back to you. "And what made them billionaire"

Of course it’s not logical. Just like it would be illogical to give him more money to not spend. Fortunately the attendance is trending that way.

That's a fans/consumers best way to show displeasure with a business
..stop giving them your money

Exactly. Attendance/money is earned and they haven’t earned it. I’d be shocked if they didn’t make some kind of splash in free agency this winter. They have to do something to try and convince people they care.

I am suspicious they will do that this upcoming off-season.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:19 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:17 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:10 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:07 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:05 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:01 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:59 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:55 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

Where does “their” money come from? Maybe they don’t need as much if they’re not going to give folks a reason to give them more.

Well, you realize these owners are billionaires..
.or maybe, you are just clueless.

And what made them billionaires? I don’t expect him to spend his Arby’s cash — but the Cardinals have generated him plenty of money to reinvest.

Telling highly successful businessman/ billionaires how to spend the money they made. That sounds logical...

I will toss this back to you. "And what made them billionaire"

Of course it’s not logical. Just like it would be illogical to give him more money to not spend. Fortunately the attendance is trending that way.

That's a fans/consumers best way to show displeasure with a business
..stop giving them your money

Exactly. Attendance/money is earned and they haven’t earned it. I’d be shocked if they didn’t make some kind of splash in free agency this winter. They have to do something to try and convince people they care.

I am suspicious they will do that this upcoming off-season.

My plan says trim then add. We did with Goldie, but not Mik and Matz. They need to go.

This fall, we add a stud TOR or a big bat. If it’s free agency, not much after Tucker. If it’s a TOR it’s most likely a trade. That is ok, as it’s part of the second round of trim/cuts this off season.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:19 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:17 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:10 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:07 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:05 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 09:01 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:59 am

desertrat23 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:55 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:39 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 08:35 am

Cranny wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Web7 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2025 21:42 pm They are In contention…… Lol this organization has become nothing but cheap

Developing players from within to compete with the big market spenders is being cheap? Oh, okay. LOL.

Yes

When you don't supplement w/a payroll that allows the new POBO to add pieces that don't exist inside the system (re: power hitters, OF'ers and TOR+TR starters).

Telling someone else how to spend their money, is pretty (drat) funny.

Where does “their” money come from? Maybe they don’t need as much if they’re not going to give folks a reason to give them more.

Well, you realize these owners are billionaires..
.or maybe, you are just clueless.

And what made them billionaires? I don’t expect him to spend his Arby’s cash — but the Cardinals have generated him plenty of money to reinvest.

Telling highly successful businessman/ billionaires how to spend the money they made. That sounds logical...

I will toss this back to you. "And what made them billionaire"

Of course it’s not logical. Just like it would be illogical to give him more money to not spend. Fortunately the attendance is trending that way.

That's a fans/consumers best way to show displeasure with a business
..stop giving them your money

Exactly. Attendance/money is earned and they haven’t earned it. I’d be shocked if they didn’t make some kind of splash in free agency this winter. They have to do something to try and convince people they care.

I am suspicious they will do that this upcoming off-season.

They don’t really have a choice. Not investing in the product is going to make the attendance decline worse. Just hope Bloom is better at evaluating players than Mozeliak.

The Cards are following MLB instructions to pull their product/team back for a few seasons.

The same teams cannot win every season or it destroys the overall product.

Billy and Mo are trying to be creative by orchestrating a “rebuild” during this period of having a non World Series competitive team.

It irks most of us because a few additions and deletions could make this team a WS worthy product. But, this is how it works!