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Where did the french lawyer go ?Shady wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 11:19 amBINGO ! But they think they are "too cool for school". LOLTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑26 Jun 2025 10:01 amBut you guys can't resist. Nobody gets more clicks and comments than Shady. Like Jordan Walker and the down and away slider. Can't lay off. Take your bat and have a seat.
Let me go a little different direction. I think I’m right that the Cardinals have 5 expiring contracts, all pitchers.
Trade for Sandy. Gray. Libby. McG Pallante. Sell helsley Mik Matz Fedde. There has to be a decent return in there. Plus money saved to buy that bat.Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 07:58 amLet me go a little different direction. I think I’m right that the Cardinals have 5 expiring contracts, all pitchers.
Mikolas
Fedde
Maton
Matz
Helsley
Common sense says trade some of them by trade deadline. What are current thoughts on who goes and who stays by trade deadline? Helsley is most obvious due to value I think. In that case I keep Maton. Personally I also keep Matz. Maybe extend both.
Mikolas and Fedde out the door. Not sure though who takes their spots, McGreevy is one.
Thoughts?
Along those lines. I’d trade for Sandy or some other good SP and use Helsley/Matz/Fedde to offset the prospects you’d have to give up for the good SP. Do it right and you can be equally as good now (or even better possibly) and be better off for the future.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:01 amTrade for Sandy. Gray. Libby. McG Pallante. Sell helsley Mik Matz Fedde. There has to be a decent return in there. Plus money saved to buy that bat.Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 07:58 amLet me go a little different direction. I think I’m right that the Cardinals have 5 expiring contracts, all pitchers.
Mikolas
Fedde
Maton
Matz
Helsley
Common sense says trade some of them by trade deadline. What are current thoughts on who goes and who stays by trade deadline? Helsley is most obvious due to value I think. In that case I keep Maton. Personally I also keep Matz. Maybe extend both.
Mikolas and Fedde out the door. Not sure though who takes their spots, McGreevy is one.
Thoughts?
That’s my take. Not a lot of quantity back from the trades, but maybe some quality. Just one real good pen arm. Maton or granillo to close.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:04 amAlong those lines. I’d trade for Sandy or some other good SP and use Helsley/Matz/Fedde to offset the prospects you’d have to give up for the good SP. Do it right and you can be equally as good now (or even better possibly) and be better off for the future.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:01 amTrade for Sandy. Gray. Libby. McG Pallante. Sell helsley Mik Matz Fedde. There has to be a decent return in there. Plus money saved to buy that bat.Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 07:58 amLet me go a little different direction. I think I’m right that the Cardinals have 5 expiring contracts, all pitchers.
Mikolas
Fedde
Maton
Matz
Helsley
Common sense says trade some of them by trade deadline. What are current thoughts on who goes and who stays by trade deadline? Helsley is most obvious due to value I think. In that case I keep Maton. Personally I also keep Matz. Maybe extend both.
Mikolas and Fedde out the door. Not sure though who takes their spots, McGreevy is one.
Thoughts?
Not sure what it takes to get Sandy?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:01 amTrade for Sandy. Gray. Libby. McG Pallante. Sell helsley Mik Matz Fedde. There has to be a decent return in there. Plus money saved to buy that bat.Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 07:58 amLet me go a little different direction. I think I’m right that the Cardinals have 5 expiring contracts, all pitchers.
Mikolas
Fedde
Maton
Matz
Helsley
Common sense says trade some of them by trade deadline. What are current thoughts on who goes and who stays by trade deadline? Helsley is most obvious due to value I think. In that case I keep Maton. Personally I also keep Matz. Maybe extend both.
Mikolas and Fedde out the door. Not sure though who takes their spots, McGreevy is one.
Thoughts?
Doubt they would, but I wonder if the Twins would consider dealing Joe Ryan. 11.5 back in the division but I guess they’re still in the playoff hunt via the WC being only 2.5 games back. He’s got 2 years left of control and just turned 29 years old.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:09 amThat’s my take. Not a lot of quantity back from the trades, but maybe some quality. Just one real good pen arm. Maton or granillo to close.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:04 amAlong those lines. I’d trade for Sandy or some other good SP and use Helsley/Matz/Fedde to offset the prospects you’d have to give up for the good SP. Do it right and you can be equally as good now (or even better possibly) and be better off for the future.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:01 amTrade for Sandy. Gray. Libby. McG Pallante. Sell helsley Mik Matz Fedde. There has to be a decent return in there. Plus money saved to buy that bat.Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 07:58 amLet me go a little different direction. I think I’m right that the Cardinals have 5 expiring contracts, all pitchers.
Mikolas
Fedde
Maton
Matz
Helsley
Common sense says trade some of them by trade deadline. What are current thoughts on who goes and who stays by trade deadline? Helsley is most obvious due to value I think. In that case I keep Maton. Personally I also keep Matz. Maybe extend both.
Mikolas and Fedde out the door. Not sure though who takes their spots, McGreevy is one.
Thoughts?
Still in reset. So player performance is still relevant.
Another good opportunity.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:12 amDoubt they would, but I wonder if the Twins would consider dealing Joe Ryan. 11.5 back in the division but I guess they’re still in the playoff hunt via the WC being only 2.5 games back. He’s got 2 years left of control.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:09 amThat’s my take. Not a lot of quantity back from the trades, but maybe some quality. Just one real good pen arm. Maton or granillo to close.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:04 amAlong those lines. I’d trade for Sandy or some other good SP and use Helsley/Matz/Fedde to offset the prospects you’d have to give up for the good SP. Do it right and you can be equally as good now (or even better possibly) and be better off for the future.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:01 amTrade for Sandy. Gray. Libby. McG Pallante. Sell helsley Mik Matz Fedde. There has to be a decent return in there. Plus money saved to buy that bat.Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 07:58 amLet me go a little different direction. I think I’m right that the Cardinals have 5 expiring contracts, all pitchers.
Mikolas
Fedde
Maton
Matz
Helsley
Common sense says trade some of them by trade deadline. What are current thoughts on who goes and who stays by trade deadline? Helsley is most obvious due to value I think. In that case I keep Maton. Personally I also keep Matz. Maybe extend both.
Mikolas and Fedde out the door. Not sure though who takes their spots, McGreevy is one.
Thoughts?
Still in reset. So player performance is still relevant.
Possible. The one thing about starters is everyone wants one. Cubs , Dodgers, Yankees can obviously make deep run and will be willing to possibly overpay. It’s going to hurt Cards chances obviously.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:12 amDoubt they would, but I wonder if the Twins would consider dealing Joe Ryan. 11.5 back in the division but I guess they’re still in the playoff hunt via the WC being only 2.5 games back. He’s got 2 years left of control and just turned 29 years old.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:09 amThat’s my take. Not a lot of quantity back from the trades, but maybe some quality. Just one real good pen arm. Maton or granillo to close.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:04 amAlong those lines. I’d trade for Sandy or some other good SP and use Helsley/Matz/Fedde to offset the prospects you’d have to give up for the good SP. Do it right and you can be equally as good now (or even better possibly) and be better off for the future.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:01 amTrade for Sandy. Gray. Libby. McG Pallante. Sell helsley Mik Matz Fedde. There has to be a decent return in there. Plus money saved to buy that bat.Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 07:58 amLet me go a little different direction. I think I’m right that the Cardinals have 5 expiring contracts, all pitchers.
Mikolas
Fedde
Maton
Matz
Helsley
Common sense says trade some of them by trade deadline. What are current thoughts on who goes and who stays by trade deadline? Helsley is most obvious due to value I think. In that case I keep Maton. Personally I also keep Matz. Maybe extend both.
Mikolas and Fedde out the door. Not sure though who takes their spots, McGreevy is one.
Thoughts?
Still in reset. So player performance is still relevant.
That is why developing some outstanding starting pitching within the organization is so important.Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:23 amPossible. The one thing about starters is everyone wants one. Cubs , Dodgers, Yankees can obviously make deep run and will be willing to possibly overpay. It’s going to hurt Cards chances obviously.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:12 amDoubt they would, but I wonder if the Twins would consider dealing Joe Ryan. 11.5 back in the division but I guess they’re still in the playoff hunt via the WC being only 2.5 games back. He’s got 2 years left of control and just turned 29 years old.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:09 amThat’s my take. Not a lot of quantity back from the trades, but maybe some quality. Just one real good pen arm. Maton or granillo to close.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:04 amAlong those lines. I’d trade for Sandy or some other good SP and use Helsley/Matz/Fedde to offset the prospects you’d have to give up for the good SP. Do it right and you can be equally as good now (or even better possibly) and be better off for the future.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 08:01 amTrade for Sandy. Gray. Libby. McG Pallante. Sell helsley Mik Matz Fedde. There has to be a decent return in there. Plus money saved to buy that bat.Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 07:58 amLet me go a little different direction. I think I’m right that the Cardinals have 5 expiring contracts, all pitchers.
Mikolas
Fedde
Maton
Matz
Helsley
Common sense says trade some of them by trade deadline. What are current thoughts on who goes and who stays by trade deadline? Helsley is most obvious due to value I think. In that case I keep Maton. Personally I also keep Matz. Maybe extend both.
Mikolas and Fedde out the door. Not sure though who takes their spots, McGreevy is one.
Thoughts?
Still in reset. So player performance is still relevant.