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He last pitched on Saturday.Charles King wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 00:22 am I heard them.say that McGreevy had only four days rest. Didn't want him pitching too many pitches today
Yet we have some in here who still defend him.chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 19:43 pm Got the W but lifting McGreevy after 76 pitches and then O’Brien after 14? Why? Because the dreaded spreadsheet said to do so.
And they won!chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 19:43 pm Got the W but lifting McGreevy after 76 pitches and then O’Brien after 14? Why? Because the dreaded spreadsheet said to do so.
That is exactly correct.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 00:50 amI agree. Using a revolving door of relievers will likely burn you with a least one. You would think a group so dedicated to analytics would understand that simple concept.ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 23:55 pmThe only thing I can think of is that they did not want him going through the line-up a third time. The problem with the strategy, also taking into account the pitchers used in the first game of the double header, is that if a team uses 6 relief pitchers in one day, it is inevitable 1 of them will have a bad day. It was Leahy today.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 23:31 pm As mentioned in an earlier post, Lil oli makes no decisions on his own. A group of people formulate a game plan hours in advance. In this case, the game plan was probably formulated last night after the postponement.
In his (their) defense, limiting O'Brien's pitches is understandable. He can be used again tomorrow. I doubt Leahy is available. Matz may also be out tomorrow. But pulling McGreevy so early was not a sensible move.
McGreevy has been impressive every time he has pitched, including the game he lost to the Dodgers. He appears to be the real deal.
The 3rd time through a lineup idea doesn't make sense either. If a pitcher is cruising, leave him in. If he gets in trouble, then act accordingly.
I think the 3rd time through the order data is skewed because modern starters are used to going 5 and being done. So once they get to a certain point in the game (or pitch count), they regress instead of bearing down. The young pitchers haven't been properly taught how to navigate a lineup to get deep in games.
Amen rockrockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 08:39 amYet we have some in here who still defend him.chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 19:43 pm Got the W but lifting McGreevy after 76 pitches and then O’Brien after 14? Why? Because the dreaded spreadsheet said to do so.
Please, please C. Bloom fire him the minute Mo hands you the keys to the POBO office.
You DO know that Mo and Bloom are cut from the same cloth. If he decides he wants his own guy, it WILL be another Oli. The hopes of Pujols or Molina are pipe dreams. Both would want the type of control that Marmol can only dream of and that ain’t happening.82birds wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 09:08 amAmen rockrockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 08:39 amYet we have some in here who still defend him.chuckaluck1 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 19:43 pm Got the W but lifting McGreevy after 76 pitches and then O’Brien after 14? Why? Because the dreaded spreadsheet said to do so.
Please, please C. Bloom fire him the minute Mo hands you the keys to the POBO office.
Pages was already in the game. He did not pinch hit for Herrera.cardfan$4041956 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 09:25 am Not only that with pitching,what is the thought process of pinch hitting for Herrara who was 2 for 4 with Pages? If you want defense let Ivan hit and then put Pages in