Re: Give credit where credit due
Posted: 20 Jun 2025 10:40 am
Well there has to be a high water bark somewhere. Two months is a lot of the season. If he gets even higher that basically a seasons worth of excellence.
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Well there has to be a high water bark somewhere. Two months is a lot of the season. If he gets even higher that basically a seasons worth of excellence.
It is and it isn’t. A player can have two great months and still end up with mediocre numbers if they don’t hit that well the other 4 months. Last year he had two good months, three mediocre months, and a bad month and finished very average for the year.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:40 amWell there has to be a high water bark somewhere. Two months is a lot of the season. If he gets even higher that basically a seasons worth of excellence.
Dog, it will be interesting to see if Burly is, indeed, taking his game to a higher level.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:40 amWell there has to be a high water bark somewhere. Two months is a lot of the season. If he gets even higher that basically a seasons worth of excellence.
He's been on fire and the exciting thing is he's actually hitting LHP (SSS of 34 PA: .313 .353 .438 .790 ) that's been his Kryptonite.Shady wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:48 amDog, it will be interesting to see if Burly is, indeed, taking his game to a higher level.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:40 amWell there has to be a high water bark somewhere. Two months is a lot of the season. If he gets even higher that basically a seasons worth of excellence.
.404 BABIP in June, so yeah.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:47 amIt is and it isn’t. A player can have two great months and still end up with mediocre numbers if they don’t hit that well the other 4 months. Last year he had two good months, three mediocre months, and a bad month and finished very average for the year.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:40 amWell there has to be a high water bark somewhere. Two months is a lot of the season. If he gets even higher that basically a seasons worth of excellence.
This year he’s had one bad month and two great months. Hopefully he continues to put up the numbers closer to May the rest of the year. I wouldn’t expect him to repeat his June so far though, but May might be doable.
Your last question is a good one. So far Walker has always been a negative WAR MLB player. Just when you think maybe he's trending better, he regresses somewhere it seems. Yes, he's still young, and yes, there's untapped potential plus power in there.rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:57 amHe's been on fire and the exciting thing is he's actually hitting LHP (SSS of 34 PA: .313 .353 .438 .790 ) that's been his Kryptonite.Shady wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:48 amDog, it will be interesting to see if Burly is, indeed, taking his game to a higher level.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:40 amWell there has to be a high water bark somewhere. Two months is a lot of the season. If he gets even higher that basically a seasons worth of excellence.
Last 112 PA
5 HR
15 RBI
.379 .414 .583 .997
Right now he's an everyday player, even in RF (0 DRS/0 OAA) where J. Walker's defense (-3 DRS/-2 OAA) has turned south...........again.
Going on 27 years old this offseason, his trade value may never be higher.
Or do they move on from Walker if he doesn't figure things out this year and keep Burleson as their RFer?
Not saying we “should” trade him, he’s good insurance at first and LH DH. But you just stated the case for trading him perfectly. Won’t stop the angry hyperventilating though.3dender wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 09:54 amDespite a decent bat (emphasis on decent, he'll never walk enough to make it truly great), he doesn't have enough overall value to be an important piece on a winning team (e.g. still only has 0.4 bWAR and 0.5 fWAR)...imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 09:37 am I don’t get it. He’s hitting 300, he has an OPS of 770. He scorching the ball right now, and you want to trade him. Explain.
He's a positionless bat, this team already has two DH types (Herrera, Gorman), and it's the easiest position to fill.
When you have a replaceable asset at peak value that other teams likely value more than you (i.e. they don't already have two good DH options), it would be silly not to trade it for a greater need.
I've been suggesting the Hererra to the OF since last season, sure hope Bloom makes it happen.JDW wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:25 amYour last question is a good one. So far Walker has always been a negative WAR MLB player. Just when you think maybe he's trending better, he regresses somewhere it seems. Yes, he's still young, and yes, there's untapped potential plus power in there.rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:57 amHe's been on fire and the exciting thing is he's actually hitting LHP (SSS of 34 PA: .313 .353 .438 .790 ) that's been his Kryptonite.Shady wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:48 amDog, it will be interesting to see if Burly is, indeed, taking his game to a higher level.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:40 amWell there has to be a high water bark somewhere. Two months is a lot of the season. If he gets even higher that basically a seasons worth of excellence.
Last 112 PA
5 HR
15 RBI
.379 .414 .583 .997
Right now he's an everyday player, even in RF (0 DRS/0 OAA) where J. Walker's defense (-3 DRS/-2 OAA) has turned south...........again.
Going on 27 years old this offseason, his trade value may never be higher.
Or do they move on from Walker if he doesn't figure things out this year and keep Burleson as their RFer?
As far as RF for 2026, is Baez going to get an opportunity? Ideally, I'd rather see Burly as a DH, but only if Herrera can learn to play the OF better than Burly.
Looking at 2026, if they did move on from Walker, you could potentially have an OF stable of Herrera, VS2, Baez, Noot and Burly.
Assuming Arenado gets moved, and Inf. of Donovan-Winn-Wetherholt-Contreras, and depth with Saggese, Gorman and Burly.
It comes down to him being far more valuable to a team with a hole at 1B/DH than he'll ever be to the Cards.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:32 amNot saying we “should” trade him, he’s good insurance at first and LH DH. But you just stated the case for trading him perfectly. Won’t stop the angry hyperventilating though.3dender wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 09:54 amDespite a decent bat (emphasis on decent, he'll never walk enough to make it truly great), he doesn't have enough overall value to be an important piece on a winning team (e.g. still only has 0.4 bWAR and 0.5 fWAR)...imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 09:37 am I don’t get it. He’s hitting 300, he has an OPS of 770. He scorching the ball right now, and you want to trade him. Explain.
He's a positionless bat, this team already has two DH types (Herrera, Gorman), and it's the easiest position to fill.
When you have a replaceable asset at peak value that other teams likely value more than you (i.e. they don't already have two good DH options), it would be silly not to trade it for a greater need.
Mo not the best car salesman the last several years. Several models move way below MSRP.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:35 am We will wait until the car is broken before we try to sell it. Everyone knows you can't sell a car that is running perfectly fine.
.957 is a rather nice high water.
You’re right, but not to those who see a future MVP. Stop thinking like a prudent GM and come worship at the altar of Burly. The chosen one who raised his batting average over 30 points and his RBI total by 2. He is a true miracle worker.3dender wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:47 amIt comes down to him being far more valuable to a team with a hole at 1B/DH than he'll ever be to the Cards.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:32 amNot saying we “should” trade him, he’s good insurance at first and LH DH. But you just stated the case for trading him perfectly. Won’t stop the angry hyperventilating though.3dender wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 09:54 amDespite a decent bat (emphasis on decent, he'll never walk enough to make it truly great), he doesn't have enough overall value to be an important piece on a winning team (e.g. still only has 0.4 bWAR and 0.5 fWAR)...imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 09:37 am I don’t get it. He’s hitting 300, he has an OPS of 770. He scorching the ball right now, and you want to trade him. Explain.
He's a positionless bat, this team already has two DH types (Herrera, Gorman), and it's the easiest position to fill.
When you have a replaceable asset at peak value that other teams likely value more than you (i.e. they don't already have two good DH options), it would be silly not to trade it for a greater need.
Should they always sell high. Sometimes sell high, or sellTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:35 am We will wait until the car is broken before we try to sell it. Everyone knows you can't sell a car that is running perfectly fine.
Lol. Cards Talk, of course. Where there have been hundreds of claims of legitimately meeting the qualifications of being an MLB GM.renostl wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 12:09 pmShould they always sell high. Sometimes sell high, or sellTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:35 am We will wait until the car is broken before we try to sell it. Everyone knows you can't sell a car that is running perfectly fine.
high when the consensus of Cards Talk says to.
Choosing which players to bet on with emphasis toward the roster, before they have to, theseJDW wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 11:25 amYour last question is a good one. So far Walker has always been a negative WAR MLB player. Just when you think maybe he's trending better, he regresses somewhere it seems. Yes, he's still young, and yes, there's untapped potential plus power in there.rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:57 amHe's been on fire and the exciting thing is he's actually hitting LHP (SSS of 34 PA: .313 .353 .438 .790 ) that's been his Kryptonite.Shady wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:48 amDog, it will be interesting to see if Burly is, indeed, taking his game to a higher level.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 10:40 amWell there has to be a high water bark somewhere. Two months is a lot of the season. If he gets even higher that basically a seasons worth of excellence.
Last 112 PA
5 HR
15 RBI
.379 .414 .583 .997
Right now he's an everyday player, even in RF (0 DRS/0 OAA) where J. Walker's defense (-3 DRS/-2 OAA) has turned south...........again.
Going on 27 years old this offseason, his trade value may never be higher.
Or do they move on from Walker if he doesn't figure things out this year and keep Burleson as their RFer?
As far as RF for 2026, is Baez going to get an opportunity? Ideally, I'd rather see Burly as a DH, but only if Herrera can learn to play the OF better than Burly.
Looking at 2026, if they did move on from Walker, you could potentially have an OF stable of Herrera, VS2, Baez, Noot and Burly.
Assuming Arenado gets moved, and Inf. of Donovan-Winn-Wetherholt-Contreras, and depth with Saggese, Gorman and Burly.