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Re: Masyn Winn
The Cardinals are starting to get a lot of national buzz. Hell, it was even discussed onmorning Joe this morning. But I’ll tell you the one thing that everybody seems to be missing, or at least not talking about, is our defense. That is the great shining light of this team, and it’s making a lot of other things possible.
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Re: Masyn Winn
It was 21 games and Marmol course corrected. Not really anything egregious on Marmol's part here. I am far from a Marmol supporter, but this is nothing to rant over.Goldfan wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:04 amAs posted many times ……batting WC #2 was stupidFuturegm2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:59 am Mar/April: .260/.345/.425/.770 3 2B 3 HR 7 RBI 15 runs in 21 games
May: .292/.366/.449/.816 5 2B 3 HR 13 RBI 18 runs in 24 games
Since being inserted into the #2 spot: .309/.387/.526/.913 6 2B 5 HR 15 RBI 22 runs in 26 games
Team is 19-7 in those 26 games.
It’s interesting, he’s hitting for contact with RISP (.317 avg/.375 OBP) and runners on (.299 avg/.395 OBP) and hitting for power with nobody on (.263 avg/.505 SLG%). All 6 of his HRs have been solo HRs.
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Re: Masyn Winn
I posted these the other day njcf:njcardfan wrote: ↑29 May 2025 11:47 amI would have predicted an uptick in errors with Goldie gone.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:00 amHey I looked at Br today. I noticed Winn Walker and Noot have zero errors, is that correct.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:59 am Mar/April: .260/.345/.425/.770 3 2B 3 HR 7 RBI 15 runs in 21 games
May: .292/.366/.449/.816 5 2B 3 HR 13 RBI 18 runs in 24 games
Since being inserted into the #2 spot: .309/.387/.526/.913 6 2B 5 HR 15 RBI 22 runs in 26 games
Team is 19-7 in those 26 games.
It’s interesting, he’s hitting for contact with RISP (.317 avg/.375 OBP) and runners on (.299 avg/.395 OBP) and hitting for power with nobody on (.263 avg/.505 SLG%). All 6 of his HRs have been solo HRs.
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Re: Masyn Winn
I dont know...Willie Mays had 156 errors including 11 in one season. Nine in several seasons. Clemente had 142 errors including seasons with 14 & 10 errors. Junior had "only" 89 errors, but had two seasons with 10 errors.woofy25 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:26 amIt’s not that surprising that an OFer hasn’t yet committed an error. They don’t make many over the course of a season. Masyn Winn having 0 is remarkablesikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:25 amThat’s what I saw too. Willy two Nado three Donny one Winn zero. That’s the best defense in the league when your GG hOF er has half the errors.OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:22 amAnd Donavon has only one.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:00 amHey I looked at Br today. I noticed Winn Walker and Noot have zero errors, is that correct.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:59 am Mar/April: .260/.345/.425/.770 3 2B 3 HR 7 RBI 15 runs in 21 games
May: .292/.366/.449/.816 5 2B 3 HR 13 RBI 18 runs in 24 games
Since being inserted into the #2 spot: .309/.387/.526/.913 6 2B 5 HR 15 RBI 22 runs in 26 games
Team is 19-7 in those 26 games.
It’s interesting, he’s hitting for contact with RISP (.317 avg/.375 OBP) and runners on (.299 avg/.395 OBP) and hitting for power with nobody on (.263 avg/.505 SLG%). All 6 of his HRs have been solo HRs.
I think it's pretty remarkable that Walker & Noot have no errors.
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In fairness, and I think JWalk has made tremendous strides defensively, but in watching the games, there are balls that JWalk has misplayed and hits, doubles, etc. have been given instead of errors. Typically these are balls that JWalk has to go back on and they end up going over his head because he hasn't mastered reading distance off of the bat yet. This will change the more time he spends in the OF. Good outfielders can tell off the bat how deep a ball may go and hustle to that spot naturally. JWalk isn't here yet. With that said though, as I alluded to earlier, he has made fantastic improvements and expect he will continue to get better defensively with time.Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑29 May 2025 12:48 pm I think it's pretty remarkable that Walker & Noot have no errors.
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Nootbaar has 9 errors in his career. Walker has 6. Trout has 21 in 15 seasons. 13 of 16 qualifying LFers this season have 0 or 1 error. 12 of 16 qualifying RFers have 0 or 1 error.Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑29 May 2025 12:48 pmI dont know...Willie Mays had 156 errors including 11 in one season. Nine in several seasons. Clemente had 142 errors including seasons with 14 & 10 errors. Junior had "only" 89 errors, but had two seasons with 10 errors.woofy25 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:26 amIt’s not that surprising that an OFer hasn’t yet committed an error. They don’t make many over the course of a season. Masyn Winn having 0 is remarkablesikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:25 amThat’s what I saw too. Willy two Nado three Donny one Winn zero. That’s the best defense in the league when your GG hOF er has half the errors.OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:22 amAnd Donavon has only one.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:00 amHey I looked at Br today. I noticed Winn Walker and Noot have zero errors, is that correct.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:59 am Mar/April: .260/.345/.425/.770 3 2B 3 HR 7 RBI 15 runs in 21 games
May: .292/.366/.449/.816 5 2B 3 HR 13 RBI 18 runs in 24 games
Since being inserted into the #2 spot: .309/.387/.526/.913 6 2B 5 HR 15 RBI 22 runs in 26 games
Team is 19-7 in those 26 games.
It’s interesting, he’s hitting for contact with RISP (.317 avg/.375 OBP) and runners on (.299 avg/.395 OBP) and hitting for power with nobody on (.263 avg/.505 SLG%). All 6 of his HRs have been solo HRs.
I think it's pretty remarkable that Walker & Noot have no errors.
So, I would say A. It's more relevant to compare players currently playing and B. It's a positive, but it's not remarkable.
Re: Masyn Winn
I looked up OF errors because of this and Jo Adell leads MLB OFers with 6 errors, 5 of which are fielding. He’s got a .950 fielding%, 1 assist, and stinks with the bat. Now that’s pretty remarkable.woofy25 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 13:56 pmNootbaar has 9 errors in his career. Walker has 6. Trout has 21 in 15 seasons. 13 of 16 qualifying LFers this season have 0 or 1 error. 12 of 16 qualifying RFers have 0 or 1 error.Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑29 May 2025 12:48 pmI dont know...Willie Mays had 156 errors including 11 in one season. Nine in several seasons. Clemente had 142 errors including seasons with 14 & 10 errors. Junior had "only" 89 errors, but had two seasons with 10 errors.woofy25 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:26 amIt’s not that surprising that an OFer hasn’t yet committed an error. They don’t make many over the course of a season. Masyn Winn having 0 is remarkablesikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:25 amThat’s what I saw too. Willy two Nado three Donny one Winn zero. That’s the best defense in the league when your GG hOF er has half the errors.OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:22 amAnd Donavon has only one.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:00 amHey I looked at Br today. I noticed Winn Walker and Noot have zero errors, is that correct.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:59 am Mar/April: .260/.345/.425/.770 3 2B 3 HR 7 RBI 15 runs in 21 games
May: .292/.366/.449/.816 5 2B 3 HR 13 RBI 18 runs in 24 games
Since being inserted into the #2 spot: .309/.387/.526/.913 6 2B 5 HR 15 RBI 22 runs in 26 games
Team is 19-7 in those 26 games.
It’s interesting, he’s hitting for contact with RISP (.317 avg/.375 OBP) and runners on (.299 avg/.395 OBP) and hitting for power with nobody on (.263 avg/.505 SLG%). All 6 of his HRs have been solo HRs.
I think it's pretty remarkable that Walker & Noot have no errors.
So, I would say A. It's more relevant to compare players currently playing and B. It's a positive, but it's not remarkable.
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Nowhere to go but up for that guy.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 13:59 pmI looked up OF errors because of this and Jo Adell leads MLB OFers with 6 errors, 5 of which are fielding. He’s got a .950 fielding%, 1 assist, and stinks with the bat. Now that’s pretty remarkable.woofy25 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 13:56 pmNootbaar has 9 errors in his career. Walker has 6. Trout has 21 in 15 seasons. 13 of 16 qualifying LFers this season have 0 or 1 error. 12 of 16 qualifying RFers have 0 or 1 error.Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑29 May 2025 12:48 pmI dont know...Willie Mays had 156 errors including 11 in one season. Nine in several seasons. Clemente had 142 errors including seasons with 14 & 10 errors. Junior had "only" 89 errors, but had two seasons with 10 errors.woofy25 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:26 amIt’s not that surprising that an OFer hasn’t yet committed an error. They don’t make many over the course of a season. Masyn Winn having 0 is remarkablesikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:25 amThat’s what I saw too. Willy two Nado three Donny one Winn zero. That’s the best defense in the league when your GG hOF er has half the errors.OldRed wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:22 amAnd Donavon has only one.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 09:00 amHey I looked at Br today. I noticed Winn Walker and Noot have zero errors, is that correct.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑29 May 2025 08:59 am Mar/April: .260/.345/.425/.770 3 2B 3 HR 7 RBI 15 runs in 21 games
May: .292/.366/.449/.816 5 2B 3 HR 13 RBI 18 runs in 24 games
Since being inserted into the #2 spot: .309/.387/.526/.913 6 2B 5 HR 15 RBI 22 runs in 26 games
Team is 19-7 in those 26 games.
It’s interesting, he’s hitting for contact with RISP (.317 avg/.375 OBP) and runners on (.299 avg/.395 OBP) and hitting for power with nobody on (.263 avg/.505 SLG%). All 6 of his HRs have been solo HRs.
I think it's pretty remarkable that Walker & Noot have no errors.
So, I would say A. It's more relevant to compare players currently playing and B. It's a positive, but it's not remarkable.
The most remarkable of all is that the cardinals have players who qualify at all 3 positions.
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Winn has been fantastic in the 2 hole. Nice to not have a gidp vulnerability in the 2 hole, which I disliked with either Burly or Contreras there.
My thought earlier was putting VS2 in the LO followed by Noot, but now like how Oli has left him alone while moving Winn up.
Good call Oli.
My thought earlier was putting VS2 in the LO followed by Noot, but now like how Oli has left him alone while moving Winn up.
Good call Oli.
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Agreed, I like how they’ve left VS2 in the 9 spot. No need to put added pressure on him, he’s doing just fine there. Lineup is deep enough that it works really well.JDW wrote: ↑29 May 2025 14:23 pm Winn has been fantastic in the 2 hole. Nice to not have a gidp vulnerability in the 2 hole, which I disliked with either Burly or Contreras there.
My thought earlier was putting VS2 in the LO followed by Noot, but now like how Oli has left him alone while moving Winn up.
Good call Oli.