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Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 21:51 pm
by Cranny
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 21:33 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:17 pm lol, it’s 109 pitches, don’t worry his arm won’t fall off.
Fully agree.

My son threw 92 pitches last week in a game, his arm didn’t fall off. I am sure Fedde will be fine. Analytics are killing this game.
How old is your son?

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 21:53 pm
by An Old Friend
Futuregm2 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:44 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 09 May 2025 21:24 pm Seems odd to save a long reliever and work a starting pitcher with no extra day off prior to the next start.
On the other hand it saves the bullpen a night of rest.
Which is really helpful in a stretch of games with no off days.

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 21:56 pm
by The Nard
109 is just a number. 100 pitches as a limit was arbitrarily drawn

Let the starters go for as long as theyre effective. They do have more rest between starts than they used to.

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 22:11 pm
by Lefley 25
Nothing to see here
109 and he was dealing

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 22:15 pm
by Mort Gage
ramfandan wrote: 09 May 2025 21:19 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 09 May 2025 21:14 pm Interesting.
To give him more confidence than he has had all year ? Fedde has had his ups and downs.
Maybe Oli thought it would be a big confidence booster going forward .
Sure we will find out in postgame conference. It is the most obvious question to ask the manager since it is so rare .
Great decision from Oli to let him ride it out. Maybe Oli's best of the year. Normally he's paint by numbers. It gives the clubhouse a charge to see that. And it boosts Fedde's value either here or in a trade.

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 22:16 pm
by blackinkbiz
ScotchMIrish wrote: 09 May 2025 21:14 pm Interesting.
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Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 22:20 pm
by RamFan08NY
A CG shutout is becoming almost as rare as a no-hitter. It's an accomplishment for guys today. Fedde was dealing, and the Mgr rewarded him by letting him close it.

Once he got in to the 8th inning with a huge lead, the Nats wanted off that field as much as the Cards did. Easy pickins from then on.

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 22:41 pm
by Baseball Savant
That might be Erick Fedde's only chance to get a complete shutout, for his career.

It was a low stress night for Fedde, six days rest too.

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 22:45 pm
by Slip Kid
ScotchMIrish wrote: 09 May 2025 21:14 pm Interesting.
Of all the things to (buzz) and moan about Oli, this one really takes the cake.

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 22:52 pm
by Stlcardsblues
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 21:51 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 21:33 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:17 pm lol, it’s 109 pitches, don’t worry his arm won’t fall off.
Fully agree.

My son threw 92 pitches last week in a game, his arm didn’t fall off. I am sure Fedde will be fine. Analytics are killing this game.
How old is your son?
16

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 23:05 pm
by Cranny
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 22:52 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 21:51 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 21:33 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:17 pm lol, it’s 109 pitches, don’t worry his arm won’t fall off.
Fully agree.

My son threw 92 pitches last week in a game, his arm didn’t fall off. I am sure Fedde will be fine. Analytics are killing this game.
How old is your son?
16
Thanks. If he was 12 or 13 I would say it was too many.

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 23:07 pm
by Stlcardsblues
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 23:05 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 22:52 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 21:51 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 21:33 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:17 pm lol, it’s 109 pitches, don’t worry his arm won’t fall off.
Fully agree.

My son threw 92 pitches last week in a game, his arm didn’t fall off. I am sure Fedde will be fine. Analytics are killing this game.
How old is your son?
16
Thanks. If he was 12 or 13 I would say it was too many.
There are league limits on how many they can throw. His age is 95 (can’t start a batter after 95). I believe 12 year olds is 75 off memory.

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 23:10 pm
by ramfandan
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 22:52 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 21:51 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 21:33 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:17 pm lol, it’s 109 pitches, don’t worry his arm won’t fall off.
Fully agree.

My son threw 92 pitches last week in a game, his arm didn’t fall off. I am sure Fedde will be fine. Analytics are killing this game.
How old is your son?
16
Hope you are keeping informed about teen baseball players injuries .
Dr. James Andrews , renowned orthopedic surgeon , has seen an alarming number of 13, 14, 15, & 16 year olds in the past decade getting Tommy John surgeries . Overuse and also pitching year round without any off time recovery .
Might want to read this article and then pursue more info . It's a serious issue .
Best of luck !

https://www.playinfo.org/news_article/show/298828

Dr. James Andrews has performed a significant number of Tommy John surgeries on teen baseball players. He has seen a dramatic increase in these surgeries on young athletes, with the percentage rising from 12% to 33% of his total UCL patients since 1998. While precise numbers are not available, he has mentioned performing around 3-4 Tommy John surgeries per week on high school athletes, according to ESPN. In the past, he used to perform 8-9 per year in the high school and younger age group.

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 23:11 pm
by LCA1951
ScotchMIrish wrote: 09 May 2025 21:14 pm Interesting.
Do You feel that it was not important to Fedde?

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 23:15 pm
by desertrat23
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 23:07 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 23:05 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 22:52 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 21:51 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 21:33 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:17 pm lol, it’s 109 pitches, don’t worry his arm won’t fall off.
Fully agree.

My son threw 92 pitches last week in a game, his arm didn’t fall off. I am sure Fedde will be fine. Analytics are killing this game.
How old is your son?
16
Thanks. If he was 12 or 13 I would say it was too many.
There are league limits on how many they can throw. His age is 95 (can’t start a batter after 95). I believe 12 year olds is 75 off memory.
My son plays 8U and it’s a 50-pitch limit. But them pitching at that age at all is kind of stupid.

Re: Why would you have a pitcher throw 109 pitches with a 10 run lead?

Posted: 09 May 2025 23:16 pm
by Cranny
ramfandan wrote: 09 May 2025 23:10 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 22:52 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 May 2025 21:51 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2025 21:33 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 09 May 2025 21:17 pm lol, it’s 109 pitches, don’t worry his arm won’t fall off.
Fully agree.

My son threw 92 pitches last week in a game, his arm didn’t fall off. I am sure Fedde will be fine. Analytics are killing this game.
How old is your son?
16
Hope you are keeping informed about teen baseball players injuries .
Dr. James Andrews , renowned orthopedic surgeon , has seen an alarming number of 13, 14, 15, & 16 year olds in the past decade getting Tommy John surgeries . Overuse and also pitching year round without any off time recovery .
Might want to read this article and then pursue more info . It's a serious issue .
Best of luck !

https://www.playinfo.org/news_article/show/298828

Dr. James Andrews has performed a significant number of Tommy John surgeries on teen baseball players. He has seen a dramatic increase in these surgeries on young athletes, with the percentage rising from 12% to 33% of his total UCL patients since 1998. While precise numbers are not available, he has mentioned performing around 3-4 Tommy John surgeries per week on high school athletes, according to ESPN. In the past, he used to perform 8-9 per year in the high school and younger age group.
Thanks for posting. Way too much overuse on these kids nowadays. Especially with the elite traveling teams. Kids need time off from a sport. Multiple sports is better, still with some time off.