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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 07:06 am
Blue Sabbath wrote: 01 May 2025 10:09 am
wiscrev wrote: 01 May 2025 09:24 am Good grief, we weren't supposed to be here but miraculously got in with fantastic play and now people are [redacted]' that we are playing bad or have a bad team and blaming Army. Was last night's game bad? Sure, but look at the experience our young guys are getting. If we win, we win, it not so be it, but take the this experience for the young guys will go far. We have got a great up and coming team with good guys following.
I think most of the griping is coming from people who don't realize just how miraculous our late season run was and expected that was going to continue in the playoffs. Now that reality is showing up they're (upset) off just like the instant gratification addicts who don't understand what goes in to building a team truly capable of contending for Conference and Cup finals and have to have their playoff fix every season no matter what. That Blues roster is 2 -3 years from being completed.
Our best players in the playoffs are the ones retiring in 3 years.
Fowler, Faksa, Sunquist

Ask yourself this...

What does it tell you that the guys that contributed most to the late-season run, are the exact same guys that disappeared in the playoffs a week later?
It tells me continued roster turnover is in order.
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dr0zombie wrote: 02 May 2025 09:31 am It is clear Thomas is playing injured again.
Lots of guys are playing through stuff…what are you seeing?
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Blue Sabbath wrote: 02 May 2025 12:18 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 07:06 am
Blue Sabbath wrote: 01 May 2025 10:09 am
wiscrev wrote: 01 May 2025 09:24 am Good grief, we weren't supposed to be here but miraculously got in with fantastic play and now people are [redacted]' that we are playing bad or have a bad team and blaming Army. Was last night's game bad? Sure, but look at the experience our young guys are getting. If we win, we win, it not so be it, but take the this experience for the young guys will go far. We have got a great up and coming team with good guys following.
I think most of the griping is coming from people who don't realize just how miraculous our late season run was and expected that was going to continue in the playoffs. Now that reality is showing up they're (upset) off just like the instant gratification addicts who don't understand what goes in to building a team truly capable of contending for Conference and Cup finals and have to have their playoff fix every season no matter what. That Blues roster is 2 -3 years from being completed.
Our best players in the playoffs are the ones retiring in 3 years.
Fowler, Faksa, Sunquist

Ask yourself this...

What does it tell you that the guys that contributed most to the late-season run, are the exact same guys that disappeared in the playoffs a week later?
It tells me continued roster turnover is in order.
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Blue Sabbath wrote: 02 May 2025 12:18 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 07:06 am
Blue Sabbath wrote: 01 May 2025 10:09 am
wiscrev wrote: 01 May 2025 09:24 am Good grief, we weren't supposed to be here but miraculously got in with fantastic play and now people are [redacted]' that we are playing bad or have a bad team and blaming Army. Was last night's game bad? Sure, but look at the experience our young guys are getting. If we win, we win, it not so be it, but take the this experience for the young guys will go far. We have got a great up and coming team with good guys following.
I think most of the griping is coming from people who don't realize just how miraculous our late season run was and expected that was going to continue in the playoffs. Now that reality is showing up they're (upset) off just like the instant gratification addicts who don't understand what goes in to building a team truly capable of contending for Conference and Cup finals and have to have their playoff fix every season no matter what. That Blues roster is 2 -3 years from being completed.
Our best players in the playoffs are the ones retiring in 3 years.
Fowler, Faksa, Sunquist

Ask yourself this...

What does it tell you that the guys that contributed most to the late-season run, are the exact same guys that disappeared in the playoffs a week later?
It tells me continued roster turnover is in order.
And some teams will turnover the roster by selecting the next McDavid in the Top 5.

But the Blues by winning meaningless regular season games, they will turnover their roster by selecting the next Fowler who is due the the next 1000-game career ceremony.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 12:46 pm
Blue Sabbath wrote: 02 May 2025 12:18 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 07:06 am
Blue Sabbath wrote: 01 May 2025 10:09 am
wiscrev wrote: 01 May 2025 09:24 am Good grief, we weren't supposed to be here but miraculously got in with fantastic play and now people are [redacted]' that we are playing bad or have a bad team and blaming Army. Was last night's game bad? Sure, but look at the experience our young guys are getting. If we win, we win, it not so be it, but take the this experience for the young guys will go far. We have got a great up and coming team with good guys following.
I think most of the griping is coming from people who don't realize just how miraculous our late season run was and expected that was going to continue in the playoffs. Now that reality is showing up they're (upset) off just like the instant gratification addicts who don't understand what goes in to building a team truly capable of contending for Conference and Cup finals and have to have their playoff fix every season no matter what. That Blues roster is 2 -3 years from being completed.
Our best players in the playoffs are the ones retiring in 3 years.
Fowler, Faksa, Sunquist

Ask yourself this...

What does it tell you that the guys that contributed most to the late-season run, are the exact same guys that disappeared in the playoffs a week later?
It tells me continued roster turnover is in order.
And some teams will turnover the roster by selecting the next McDavid in the Top 5.

But the Blues by winning meaningless regular season games, they will turnover their roster by selecting the next Fowler who is due the the next 1000-game career ceremony.
I feel your pain but I believe Armangosteen will find a way to duplicate 2019.
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Bacchk29 wrote: 02 May 2025 11:19 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 02 May 2025 11:09 am
Sophisticated Shoes wrote: 02 May 2025 09:39 am 8th seeds usually have areas/opportunities to upgrade. The Blues areas of opportunity have been at D and #2 C all year long, even now, 5 games into the playoffs.
I still contend that D needs 1 or 2 guys to be elite, but they have more than punched above their weight class this year especially considering Parayko/Broberg/Leddy have all missed significant time. You can add Krug to that list as you plan years ago for what a core is supposed to look like. So this Defensive group that is constructed to be mid tier to bottom tier hung in there around the middle of the pack defensively and excelled as a top 5 scoring unit offensively.

The number 2 spot is the biggest hole in the squad. If Schenn was a 3rd line center this team would be cooking with grease. Schenn would get to be that captain guy and take care of business and would definitely be able to usher on the young guys like a Bolduc. But that hole I don't see how it gets filled next year.
If you move Parayko you will get a 2C. You have to give to get.
why would you move a top 10-15 defensemen with a team friendly contract for a 33-64 2nd line center?
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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 12:46 pm
Blue Sabbath wrote: 02 May 2025 12:18 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 07:06 am
Blue Sabbath wrote: 01 May 2025 10:09 am
wiscrev wrote: 01 May 2025 09:24 am Good grief, we weren't supposed to be here but miraculously got in with fantastic play and now people are [redacted]' that we are playing bad or have a bad team and blaming Army. Was last night's game bad? Sure, but look at the experience our young guys are getting. If we win, we win, it not so be it, but take the this experience for the young guys will go far. We have got a great up and coming team with good guys following.
I think most of the griping is coming from people who don't realize just how miraculous our late season run was and expected that was going to continue in the playoffs. Now that reality is showing up they're (upset) off just like the instant gratification addicts who don't understand what goes in to building a team truly capable of contending for Conference and Cup finals and have to have their playoff fix every season no matter what. That Blues roster is 2 -3 years from being completed.
Our best players in the playoffs are the ones retiring in 3 years.
Fowler, Faksa, Sunquist

Ask yourself this...

What does it tell you that the guys that contributed most to the late-season run, are the exact same guys that disappeared in the playoffs a week later?
It tells me continued roster turnover is in order.
And some teams will turnover the roster by selecting the next McDavid in the Top 5.

But the Blues by winning meaningless regular season games, they will turnover their roster by selecting the next Fowler who is due the the next 1000-game career ceremony.
Hey look its a smell of goblin goo back again. Thought you said you were gone? The next McDavid is in this draft? Dang, didn't realize there was a top 5 all time player that everyone is talking about, and teams are intentionally tanking for and choosing not to make the playoffs and sacrifice their fan base for. Good stuff. What's his name?
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Lol what a bizarre thread, i just got a little dumber.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 02 May 2025 13:34 pm Lol what a bizarre thread, i just got a little dumber.
Here's a good nugget to help you get smarter. 101 just posted this stat, Broberg has not been on the ice for a goal against during 5 on 5 yet in this series. Faulk has only been on the ice for 1 last game. That's your top 4 playing good hockey. The bottom pair let up 3 goals last game.
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Blue Sabbath wrote: 02 May 2025 13:08 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 12:46 pm
Blue Sabbath wrote: 02 May 2025 12:18 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 07:06 am
Blue Sabbath wrote: 01 May 2025 10:09 am
wiscrev wrote: 01 May 2025 09:24 am Good grief, we weren't supposed to be here but miraculously got in with fantastic play and now people are [redacted]' that we are playing bad or have a bad team and blaming Army. Was last night's game bad? Sure, but look at the experience our young guys are getting. If we win, we win, it not so be it, but take the this experience for the young guys will go far. We have got a great up and coming team with good guys following.
I think most of the griping is coming from people who don't realize just how miraculous our late season run was and expected that was going to continue in the playoffs. Now that reality is showing up they're (upset) off just like the instant gratification addicts who don't understand what goes in to building a team truly capable of contending for Conference and Cup finals and have to have their playoff fix every season no matter what. That Blues roster is 2 -3 years from being completed.
Our best players in the playoffs are the ones retiring in 3 years.
Fowler, Faksa, Sunquist

Ask yourself this...

What does it tell you that the guys that contributed most to the late-season run, are the exact same guys that disappeared in the playoffs a week later?
It tells me continued roster turnover is in order.
And some teams will turnover the roster by selecting the next McDavid in the Top 5.

But the Blues by winning meaningless regular season games, they will turnover their roster by selecting the next Fowler who is due the the next 1000-game career ceremony.
I feel your pain but I believe Armangosteen will find a way to duplicate 2019.
Hmmmm. I don't know man.

Armangosteen hasn't yet figured out a way to duplicate Pietrangelo, much less the whole squad.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 02 May 2025 13:41 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 02 May 2025 13:34 pm Lol what a bizarre thread, i just got a little dumber.
Here's a good nugget to help you get smarter. 101 just posted this stat, Broberg has not been on the ice for a goal against during 5 on 5 yet in this series. Faulk has only been on the ice for 1 last game. That's your top 4 playing good hockey. The bottom pair let up 3 goals last game.
You can throw any stat out you like…but Broberg has been a flower out there. Zero impact on this series. Invisible except when get manhandled.

“If you’re not scoring, you have to find a way to impact the game.”

Mark Messier
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 02 May 2025 13:28 pm
Bacchk29 wrote: 02 May 2025 11:19 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 02 May 2025 11:09 am
Sophisticated Shoes wrote: 02 May 2025 09:39 am 8th seeds usually have areas/opportunities to upgrade. The Blues areas of opportunity have been at D and #2 C all year long, even now, 5 games into the playoffs.
I still contend that D needs 1 or 2 guys to be elite, but they have more than punched above their weight class this year especially considering Parayko/Broberg/Leddy have all missed significant time. You can add Krug to that list as you plan years ago for what a core is supposed to look like. So this Defensive group that is constructed to be mid tier to bottom tier hung in there around the middle of the pack defensively and excelled as a top 5 scoring unit offensively.

The number 2 spot is the biggest hole in the squad. If Schenn was a 3rd line center this team would be cooking with grease. Schenn would get to be that captain guy and take care of business and would definitely be able to usher on the young guys like a Bolduc. But that hole I don't see how it gets filled next year.
If you move Parayko you will get a 2C. You have to give to get.
why would you move a top 10-15 defensemen with a team friendly contract for a 33-64 2nd line center?
Not only that but if he is moved, you better get someone that can play defense.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 12:46 pm
Blue Sabbath wrote: 02 May 2025 12:18 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 02 May 2025 07:06 am
Blue Sabbath wrote: 01 May 2025 10:09 am
wiscrev wrote: 01 May 2025 09:24 am Good grief, we weren't supposed to be here but miraculously got in with fantastic play and now people are [redacted]' that we are playing bad or have a bad team and blaming Army. Was last night's game bad? Sure, but look at the experience our young guys are getting. If we win, we win, it not so be it, but take the this experience for the young guys will go far. We have got a great up and coming team with good guys following.
I think most of the griping is coming from people who don't realize just how miraculous our late season run was and expected that was going to continue in the playoffs. Now that reality is showing up they're (upset) off just like the instant gratification addicts who don't understand what goes in to building a team truly capable of contending for Conference and Cup finals and have to have their playoff fix every season no matter what. That Blues roster is 2 -3 years from being completed.
Our best players in the playoffs are the ones retiring in 3 years.
Fowler, Faksa, Sunquist

Ask yourself this...

What does it tell you that the guys that contributed most to the late-season run, are the exact same guys that disappeared in the playoffs a week later?
It tells me continued roster turnover is in order.
And some teams will turnover the roster by selecting the next McDavid in the Top 5.

But the Blues by winning meaningless regular season games, they will turnover their roster by selecting the next Fowler who is due the the next 1000-game career ceremony.
Didn’t you say that you were no longer going to cry about not tanking for draft picks?
How long did that last? Kinda ranks right up there with someone saying they are leaving for “the greater good of the board”.
Odd.
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Blue Sabbath wrote: 01 May 2025 10:09 am
wiscrev wrote: 01 May 2025 09:24 am Good grief, we weren't supposed to be here but miraculously got in with fantastic play and now people are [redacted]' that we are playing bad or have a bad team and blaming Army. Was last night's game bad? Sure, but look at the experience our young guys are getting. If we win, we win, it not so be it, but take the this experience for the young guys will go far. We have got a great up and coming team with good guys following.
I think most of the griping is coming from people who don't realize just how miraculous our late season run was and expected that was going to continue in the playoffs. Now that reality is showing up they're (upset) just like the instant gratification addicts who don't understand what goes in to building a team truly capable of contending for Conference and Cup finals and have to have their playoff fix every season no matter what. That Blues roster is 2 -3 years from being completed.
The best part is look at our record against the Jets since 2019. Missing Holloway and we've still got a shot to win this round. (bleep), it's not like we got here and promptly [shirt] ourselves. We [fork]ing HUMILIATED them in games 3 and 4. We have played admirably. Snuggerud has probably realized by now that the Stanley Cup Playoffs and the NCAA Playoffs are VERY different. Look at what Tyler Tucker has brought to this series. Bolduc, and Neighbours figuring it out. How can you [shirt] on any of this?
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theograce wrote: 02 May 2025 15:06 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 02 May 2025 13:41 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 02 May 2025 13:34 pm Lol what a bizarre thread, i just got a little dumber.
Here's a good nugget to help you get smarter. 101 just posted this stat, Broberg has not been on the ice for a goal against during 5 on 5 yet in this series. Faulk has only been on the ice for 1 last game. That's your top 4 playing good hockey. The bottom pair let up 3 goals last game.
You can throw any stat out you like…but Broberg has been a flower out there. Zero impact on this series. Invisible except when get manhandled.

“If you’re not scoring, you have to find a way to impact the game.”

Mark Messier
It would seem to me that not allowing the other team to scoring would have an impact on the game.
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General wrote: 02 May 2025 17:18 pm
theograce wrote: 02 May 2025 15:06 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 02 May 2025 13:41 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 02 May 2025 13:34 pm Lol what a bizarre thread, i just got a little dumber.
Here's a good nugget to help you get smarter. 101 just posted this stat, Broberg has not been on the ice for a goal against during 5 on 5 yet in this series. Faulk has only been on the ice for 1 last game. That's your top 4 playing good hockey. The bottom pair let up 3 goals last game.
You can throw any stat out you like…but Broberg has been a flower out there. Zero impact on this series. Invisible except when get manhandled.

“If you’re not scoring, you have to find a way to impact the game.”

Mark Messier
It would seem to me that not allowing the other team to scoring would have an impact on the game.
He's a human broken record continually skipping on "Broberg is soft".
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