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Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
by Goldfan
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 13:56 pm
The little scumbag stands there smirking in the dugout knowing Mo has his back no matter how bad he s u c k s.
Worst Manager in cardinals history, clueless.
Inept is one thing, but scumbag? When you don’t even know him? Did he do something to injure you?
Cranny do you realize this is pro sports?? Or perhaps you’re mistaken this CT forum for some sort of cheerleading chat for your granddaughters t-ball team……are you this Ned Flanders in real life??
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 16:41 pm
by Cranny
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 13:56 pm
The little scumbag stands there smirking in the dugout knowing Mo has his back no matter how bad he s u c k s.
Worst Manager in cardinals history, clueless.
Inept is one thing, but scumbag? When you don’t even know him? Did he do something to injure you?
Cranny do you realize this is pro sports?? Or perhaps you’re mistaken this CT forum for some sort of cheerleading chat for your granddaughters t-ball team……are you this Ned Flanders in real life??
No, it’s just that rules are to give guidelines for a free forum provided by a public company. Have you read them, Goldfan?
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 16:43 pm
by Goldfan
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 16:41 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 13:56 pm
The little scumbag stands there smirking in the dugout knowing Mo has his back no matter how bad he s u c k s.
Worst Manager in cardinals history, clueless.
Inept is one thing, but scumbag? When you don’t even know him? Did he do something to injure you?
Cranny do you realize this is pro sports?? Or perhaps you’re mistaken this CT forum for some sort of cheerleading chat for your granddaughters t-ball team……are you this Ned Flanders in real life??
No, it’s just that rules are to give guidelines for a free forum provided by a public company. Have you read them, Goldfan?
PD doesn’t want us typing “scumbag”?
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 17:00 pm
by 2ninr
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 16:10 pm
2ninr wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:59 pm
Cranny's a troll. A polite troll.
Really, 2ninr? How nice of you. Are you a judgmental person in the real world?
Hilarious. You just proved my point precisely. You were polite and nice, than trolled me with the judgemental comment. Thanks for the chuckle!
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 17:07 pm
by WLTFE
Apparently., any criticism of DeTwit or Mo-ran or Oli must be responded to by the usual suspects...looks like another thread hijacked.
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 18:09 pm
by Banner29
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 16:43 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 16:41 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 13:56 pm
The little scumbag stands there smirking in the dugout knowing Mo has his back no matter how bad he s u c k s.
Worst Manager in cardinals history, clueless.
Inept is one thing, but scumbag? When you don’t even know him? Did he do something to injure you?
Cranny do you realize this is pro sports?? Or perhaps you’re mistaken this CT forum for some sort of cheerleading chat for your granddaughters t-ball team……are you this Ned Flanders in real life??
No, it’s just that rules are to give guidelines for a free forum provided by a public company. Have you read them, Goldfan?
PD doesn’t want us typing “scumbag”?
Is butthead ok or is that against the rules(which apparently were assembled by a first grader) too?
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 18:10 pm
by Banner29
Oli will probably have the job until Mo walks out the door next offseason. After that Bloom makes his decision
I got high hopes for Bloom, but I cannot tell you how quickly I will sour on him should he keep this loser as his manager
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 18:12 pm
by JuanAgosto
For those who argue that oli can only play the roster he's given, I say this:
A REAL MANAGER WOULD DEMAND A BETTER ROSTER!!!
This pud was hired because he was Mo's pathetic 'yes man'. Mo doesn’t want a manager with stature. He wants nobodies who will follow orders. That way, Mo is the boss and will always have a fall guy.
Matheny was that guy. Shildt was that guy until he won a 'MOY' and began to push back. We know how that ended.
So lil oli is here to stay. Mo's pet is safe until at least October.
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 19:18 pm
by Red7
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:12 pm
For those who argue that oli can only play the roster he's given, I say this:
A REAL MANAGER WOULD DEMAND A BETTER ROSTER!!!
This pud was hired because he was Mo's pathetic 'yes man'. Mo doesn’t want a manager with stature. He wants nobodies who will follow orders. That way, Mo is the boss and will always have a fall guy.
Matheny was that guy. Shildt was that guy until he won a 'MOY' and began to push back. We know how that ended.
So lil oli is here to stay. Mo's pet is safe until at least October.
Very few managers today have much sway with the front office, much less the ability to demand ANYTHING. Is Kevin Cash a good manager? Why isn’t he demanding a better roster? Bloom is going to hire another Oli or Cash. Oli’s got two jobs: implement the collaborative decisions made by the management team of which he’s only a part and to face the media so the rest of the management team can remain nameless and faceless.
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 19:19 pm
by BrummerStealsHome
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 16:26 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 13:56 pm
The little scumbag stands there smirking in the dugout knowing Mo has his back no matter how bad he s u c k s.
Worst Manager in cardinals history, clueless.
Was mowing so missed this version of “how Oli loses games”
I see Miles threw 89 pitches…..why was he removed? Any trouble?
Nope. The paint-by-numbers management book said it was time to replace him. Miko-loss was pitching a great game for a change.
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 19:32 pm
by Goldfan
BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 19:19 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 16:26 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 13:56 pm
The little scumbag stands there smirking in the dugout knowing Mo has his back no matter how bad he s u c k s.
Worst Manager in cardinals history, clueless.
Was mowing so missed this version of “how Oli loses games”
I see Miles threw 89 pitches…..why was he removed? Any trouble?
Nope. The paint-by-numbers management book said it was time to replace him. Miko-loss was pitching a great game for a change.
Why take a vet out after 6 throwing a SHO and hand it over this clusterphuck BP??? Marmol is world class idiot.
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 20:08 pm
by JuanAgosto
Red7 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 19:18 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:12 pm
For those who argue that oli can only play the roster he's given, I say this:
A REAL MANAGER WOULD DEMAND A BETTER ROSTER!!!
This pud was hired because he was Mo's pathetic 'yes man'. Mo doesn’t want a manager with stature. He wants nobodies who will follow orders. That way, Mo is the boss and will always have a fall guy.
Matheny was that guy. Shildt was that guy until he won a 'MOY' and began to push back. We know how that ended.
So lil oli is here to stay. Mo's pet is safe until at least October.
Very few managers today have much sway with the front office, much less the ability to demand ANYTHING. Is Kevin Cash a good manager? Why isn’t he demanding a better roster? Bloom is going to hire another Oli or Cash. Oli’s got two jobs: implement the collaborative decisions made by the management team of which he’s only a part and to face the media so the rest of the management team can remain nameless and faceless.
You are right. And it's one of many reasons why the sport isn't as interesting anymore. True strategy has been relaced by AI probabilities. The human element to do the unorthodox, understand aches & pains, to judge non-stat compiling winners, and to gauge things like confidence are all gone. It's too bad.
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 21:07 pm
by CardinalInNC
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:12 pm
For those who argue that oli can only play the roster he's given, I say this:
A REAL MANAGER WOULD DEMAND A BETTER ROSTER!!!
This pud was hired because he was Mo's pathetic 'yes man'. Mo doesn’t want a manager with stature. He wants nobodies who will follow orders. That way, Mo is the boss and will always have a fall guy.
Matheny was that guy. Shildt was that guy until he won a 'MOY' and began to push back. We know how that ended.
So lil oli is here to stay. Mo's pet is safe until at least October.
Bigger issue is a manager/coach should be able to use a roster to its full potential and not allow certain players like Fernandez to be in charge of situations that they're unable to perform in. That's where the problem is, and the roster we have may not be the top, but it should still be generating better than 10-15.
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 22:03 pm
by JuanAgosto
CardinalInNC wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 21:07 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:12 pm
For those who argue that oli can only play the roster he's given, I say this:
A REAL MANAGER WOULD DEMAND A BETTER ROSTER!!!
This pud was hired because he was Mo's pathetic 'yes man'. Mo doesn’t want a manager with stature. He wants nobodies who will follow orders. That way, Mo is the boss and will always have a fall guy.
Matheny was that guy. Shildt was that guy until he won a 'MOY' and began to push back. We know how that ended.
So lil oli is here to stay. Mo's pet is safe until at least October.
Bigger issue is a manager/coach should be able to use a roster to its full potential and not allow certain players like Fernandez to be in charge of situations that they're unable to perform in. That's where the problem is, and the roster we have may not be the top, but it should still be generating better than 10-15.
This roster is capable of a .500 or better season. But oli is not a manager. He's an errand boy following a script. And the script is never altered. Even when the situation calls for it. It's time for a REAL manager.
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 22:17 pm
by JB2011
clayton888 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 13:41 pm
His feckless management of the pitchers and useless players is absurd. Fernandez and Romero must go and Walker has no business in the major leagues. Mo should be fired instead of waiting out his contract to make a point of how much damage he has done to the Cardinal brand.
While i agree, he's not going anywhere.
The same lame duck idiot who destroyed Cardinals Baseball isn't going to fire the third manager that he hired.
I do agree that Marmol is a problem, but the bigger problem is Mozeliak and the DeWitt's.
Anyone who didn't see this train wreck coming is blinded by stupidity.
Re: Must fire Marmol now....
Posted: 23 Apr 2025 22:22 pm
by Cranny
JB2011 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 22:17 pm
clayton888 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 13:41 pm
His feckless management of the pitchers and useless players is absurd. Fernandez and Romero must go and Walker has no business in the major leagues. Mo should be fired instead of waiting out his contract to make a point of how much damage he has done to the Cardinal brand.
While i agree, he's not going anywhere.
The same lame duck idiot who destroyed Cardinals Baseball isn't going to fire the third manager that he hired.
I do agree that Marmol is a problem, but the bigger problem is Mozeliak and the DeWitt's.
Anyone who didn't see this train wreck coming is blinded by stupidity.
No doubt. Terrific insight.