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Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm

cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm Give Oli credit.

Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.

Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.

Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".

Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky

It was stupid and simple-minded mistake that he won't make again.
A very poor manager.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 08:28 am I almost spit out my beer when I say Pages at 2nd, funny as heck seeing that body playing there.

I wanted to see him turn one or at least belly dive for a ground ball.

I wanted to see him cover 2b on a stolen base attempt.
I suspect he was hoping for that as well.

I wanted to see a timeout where batboy runs out a catcher mask for him. He would have made instant No. 1 highlight on MLB and Sports Center

Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.

Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.

The daily lineup is a collaborative product. Oli only has A say. The collaborative group has THE say. It’s then up to Oli to implement said decisions and then defend them to the media. The collaborative group is shielded by the folks who believes Oli has the same type of autonomy as Whitey or TLR. The reality is, very few managers today have that type of autonomy. Bochy, Francona, and maybe Craig Counsell. Everyone else, including Dave Roberts, are implenters, not decision makers.

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.

Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.

You can argue Siani has been more useful.

Yeah, not an ideal situation last night, but it turned out to be a good move instead of removing the DH spot right away.

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.

Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.

Bingo Basil

Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.

Siani has no place on this team.

But that move to play Pages at second base could have ended like this:

https://youtu.be/Mn5ayQd7Y0Q?si=9rHQ5wdgRMQspVgj

NO ONE credits Pallante's effort. 7 innings - when was the last time a Cardinal SP went 7 innings only giving up 2 hits & zip runs?

Facing Schwarber, Harper, Turner, Castellano's formidable lineup. Congrats to "P". Congrats to Pages for fielding 2 (?) groundballs.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:59 am

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.

Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.

Bingo Basil

Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.

Siani has no place on this team.

As long as Walker is in the OF, Siani has a place.

ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:21 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:59 am

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.

Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.

Bingo Basil

Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.

Siani has no place on this team.

As long as Walker is in the OF, Siani has a place.

lol
Walker has been pretty good.

Melville wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 08:32 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm

cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm Give Oli credit.

Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.

Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.

Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".

Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky

It was stupid and simple-minded mistake that he won't make again.
A very poor manager.

It worked...

Kinda pathetic that a 23 year old has to sit due to a stiff back 12 games into a season after a day off.

How is the Unikkkorn Smellville? Never been anything like him.

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:52 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 10:21 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:59 am

Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 09:43 am Sure it was cute and fun to see the fat guy at second base, but Marmol got lucky.

Many of us mentioned that either Fermin or Barrero should have traveled north after spring training. This was poor roster, construction, and poor foresight by having Donovan at the designated hitter.

Bingo Basil

Mo's foolish roster construction out Oli in a tough spot.

Siani has no place on this team.

As long as Walker is in the OF, Siani has a place.

lol
Walker has been pretty good.

Not only pretty good, Walker's a +2 DRS, only +1 behind the league leaders!

He's improved dramatically under J. Jay's tutelage.

Sinai has no place on this team w/VSII establishing himself as an everyday CFer w/ a +1 DRS (tied for 3rd best in MLB).

As we saw last night, Siani here kept them from having a MI when needed.

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm

cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm Give Oli credit.

Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.

Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.

Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".

Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky

Yep, happy accident.

Hoosier59 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 08:21 am

ecleme22 wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 01:19 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm

cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm Give Oli credit.

Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.

Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.

Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".

Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky

It proved to be a good move.

Credit where credit is due

Just what other options did he have? I’ll give him credit when it is earned. I’ll give credit to Pages for doing his best, but Oli as manager, should have had more foresight into this possible situation.

I guess you dont want to mess with too many positions, but i wondered about shifting arenadonto 2b then walker or contreras to 3b. Contreras has played 3b before in minors.

Pages has only ever played 1b in infield.

Melville wrote: ↑12 Apr 2025 08:32 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:55 pm

cardstatman wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 22:38 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2025 21:34 pm Give Oli credit.

Playing Donovan as DH was "interesting"since he had no other infielders.

Oli is very smart because his big "interesting" move did not burn him this time.

Playing Burleson at DH and Donovan at 1B would have made things less "interesting".

Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than smart oli got lucky

It was stupid and simple-minded mistake that he won't make again.
A very poor manager.

Yeah there's really no excuse. TLR probably cried a little. Not only having to play Pages at 2b but inserting the backup catcher.