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Re: The cardinal attendance is speaking loud and clear because if

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What’s a shame, is this team is playing hard, and the fans are taking it out on the front office. It’s not the players’ fault.
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It’s not directed at the players dude it’s directed at owner and GM.

Fans still support the players but in good conscience can’t support the people that make decisions and it’s their only way to make a statement
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hmoss859 wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:10 pm It’s not directed at the players dude it’s directed at owner and GM.

Fans still support the players but in good conscience can’t support the people that make decisions and it’s their only way to make a statement
And they should, and it's their right to do that.

I just hope they start to show up for the guys soon. Because, yeah, they are playing their butts off. They ain't perfect, but it's a lot more fun that what we've seen the past two seasons.
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hmoss859 wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:10 pm It’s not directed at the players dude it’s directed at owner and GM.

Fans still support the players but in good conscience can’t support the people that make decisions and it’s their only way to make a statement
That’s not what I said, lil dude. I said it’s not the players fault and it’s too bad fans aren’t there to cheer them as they’re playing good baseball.
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Strummer Jones wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:11 pm
hmoss859 wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:10 pm It’s not directed at the players dude it’s directed at owner and GM.

Fans still support the players but in good conscience can’t support the people that make decisions and it’s their only way to make a statement
And they should, and it's their right to do that.

I just hope they start to show up for the guys soon. Because, yeah, they are playing their butts off. They ain't perfect, but it's a lot more fun that what we've seen the past two seasons.
This team seems to have resiliency for certain

As for attendance, just keep winning and they will start showing up
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Cranny wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:06 pm What’s a shame, is this team is playing hard, and the fans are taking it out on the front office. It’s not the players’ fault.
You will simply say any old thing.

You spend an inordinate amount of time here, alibiing for BillMoe&Co, and placing blame on the players.

Now you are bemoaning the fact that the poor players are simply innocent bystanders and caught between a battle between the fans and the front office.

Newsflash Minority Partner and Big Shot Investment Banker.

You have an undervalued asset that is suffering from deferred maintenance. Pump money back into the Org, start winning again, and then look to cash out once the crowds return. And they will, as everyone loves a Winner.

The Eddie Lambert approach of pulling all cash out and cutting expenses to the bone only leads to one eventuality. Bankruptcy.
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Baseball Savant wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:13 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:11 pm
hmoss859 wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:10 pm It’s not directed at the players dude it’s directed at owner and GM.

Fans still support the players but in good conscience can’t support the people that make decisions and it’s their only way to make a statement
And they should, and it's their right to do that.

I just hope they start to show up for the guys soon. Because, yeah, they are playing their butts off. They ain't perfect, but it's a lot more fun that what we've seen the past two seasons.
This team seems to have resiliency for certain

As for attendance, just keep winning and they will start showing up
My fiancee can get tickets through her work insurance program. I wasn't super enthused about getting tickets, but these guys are making a believer out of me. We aren't back yet. But you can see it from here.
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Cranny wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:06 pm What’s a shame, is this team is playing hard, and the fans are taking it out on the front office. It’s not the players’ fault.
You mean they are taking it out on the players lol?

They should be taking it out on the front office. The players are the ones who deserve more fans. Though I'm sure that's what you meant
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4-2...sucks for yhem
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Cranny wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:06 pm What’s a shame, is this team is playing hard, and the fans are taking it out on the front office. It’s not the players’ fault.
I agree. The players don't deserve it. Ownership definitely does.
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Dazepster wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:18 pm
Cranny wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:06 pm What’s a shame, is this team is playing hard, and the fans are taking it out on the front office. It’s not the players’ fault.
You will simply say any old thing.

You spend an inordinate amount of time here, alibiing for BillMoe&Co, and placing blame on the players.

Now you are bemoaning the fact that the poor players are simply innocent bystanders and caught between a battle between the fans and the front office.

Newsflash Minority Partner and Big Shot Investment Banker.

You have an undervalued asset that is suffering from deferred maintenance. Pump money back into the Org, start winning again, and then look to cash out once the crowds return. And they will, as everyone loves a Winner.

The Eddie Lambert approach of pulling all cash out and cutting expenses to the bone only leads to one eventuality. Bankruptcy.
You're absolutely right, Daze! The players didn't do that well in 2023, and last year to a certain extent. A slow start wasn't good. The players are playing harder and a lot better now. With this renewed effort, it's too bad the fans aren't there to see it.
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desertrat23 wrote: 02 Apr 2025 13:10 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 02 Apr 2025 13:05 pm
Kentucky kid wrote: 02 Apr 2025 12:59 pm the cardinals were as good as dodgers the crowds would be like they use to. Amazing how winning is always the answer.
I go to watch superstars and future HOf caliber players or a legit WS contender. I used to feel the Cardinals had both. Now they have neither so I stay home.
Makes sense. Even Mike Trout this week couldn't get folks interested.
He and Areanado are old former superstars that are now just aging stars. I mean current players top 3 at their positions in their prime.
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Cranny wrote: 02 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
Dazepster wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:18 pm
Cranny wrote: 02 Apr 2025 15:06 pm What’s a shame, is this team is playing hard, and the fans are taking it out on the front office. It’s not the players’ fault.
You will simply say any old thing.

You spend an inordinate amount of time here, alibiing for BillMoe&Co, and placing blame on the players.

Now you are bemoaning the fact that the poor players are simply innocent bystanders and caught between a battle between the fans and the front office.

Newsflash Minority Partner and Big Shot Investment Banker.

You have an undervalued asset that is suffering from deferred maintenance. Pump money back into the Org, start winning again, and then look to cash out once the crowds return. And they will, as everyone loves a Winner.

The Eddie Lambert approach of pulling all cash out and cutting expenses to the bone only leads to one eventuality. Bankruptcy.
You're absolutely right, Daze! The players didn't do that well in 2023, and last year to a certain extent. A slow start wasn't good. The players are playing harder and a lot better now. With this renewed effort, it's too bad the fans aren't there to see it.
If they continue to compete and win a fair amount of their games, they will return.

Really more curious as to how their Direct to Consumer model has been faring. That might make up for some of the attendance shortfall. Any idea?
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I think when ownership proves it's committed to putting together the best team it can within reason, the excitement will return.

It's hard to invest time and money in something that isn't willing to do the same. They turned a passion into profits then watered down the product. Time for a new vision/message, not just on the field but off.
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Dazepster wrote: 02 Apr 2025 14:32 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 02 Apr 2025 14:04 pm 20,309 tickets sold per Goold. Breaking the all-time low set...Monday.

It's delusional to pretend this isn't an issue.
That number is suspect at best.

In the NFL local broadcasts are blacked out if a certain percentage of the home seats are not sold prior to game time. Many a team, including my Beloved Dolphins, purchase the tickets themselves to make darn sure their games are broadcasted.

Wonder if same rule applies in baseball. If so, what that number tells me is that 20 K tickets must be sold to avoid being blacked out. There is nowhere near 20 K in or even near the Stadium. The team very well may be buying them themselves to avoid being blacked out.

Would love to know how many eyeballs or households have been streaming the games via FanDuel/MLB etc.
I have Fanduel as part of my FUBO package. Broadcasts dates are included in the official Cardinal schedule.
Scheduled broadcasts are not in any way dependent upon attendance.
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Dazepster wrote: 02 Apr 2025 14:42 pm
Ordinary Man wrote: 02 Apr 2025 14:34 pm I've never heard of a tickets-sold blackout in baseball. You sure about this?
I said I Wonder?

It is the case with The NFL.

What really has me thinking that might be the case is that the attendance has come in over 20 K for each game other than the opener and withing a 100 to 200 tickets of each other.
Baseball blackouts are not dependent on tickets sold or attendance.
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