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Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 15:44 pm
by RichieRichSTL
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:29 pm They were planning on the reset but gray and Contreras didn’t want to be traded and he failed at trading Arenado so now he’s calling it a transition instead of saying the reset failed

Mo was going to make the 'unpopular moves' to give Bloom a clean slate. :D s**t, might as well have turned it over to Bloom since he's going to end up cleaning up Mo's mess anyway.

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:00 pm
by RichieRichSTL
An Old Friend wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:40 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:34 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 16 Feb 2025 14:56 pm Reset, transition... different semantics to describe the same approach, that being they're moving towards a small market approach and resetting their payroll baseline to reflect that new reality.
Like post-Gussie AB. Small thinking; a next generation that doesn't share the passion; doesn't talk baseball, but corporate speak; talks about 'building within and younger players' as if all teams don't try to; hires managers whom they think can control and leans heavily on nostalgia and then wonders why fans drift away.

Literally, the Cardinals have only one completing local sport for much of the season-soccer. Sure St. Louis is small, but add the St. Louis and St. Charles County areas and the regional appeal, you have a good fanbase. That base has shown they will attend in droves when they feel like they are provided a good product.

Like the brewery teams of the last days, they seem content to go low-risk, low competitive.
Yeah... I mean... I think ownership completely lost it as it pertains to attendance and viewership declines. They saw that and decided, "well, if you're not going to come, we're not going to invest in the team"... when this fanbase CLEARLY attends and watches when they feel like ownership is TRYING TO WIN.

I don't know why they lost their way, but they did without a doubt.
Grandpa got old and tired and was told, you be competitive in September and maybe you end up winning a WS. So, they treated it like a mature product rather than a dynamic investment. Younger Dewitt expressed the f**k you attitude towards the fans when they protested Mo's handling of the team. Like you said, this fan base, when properly handled, will print money for the ownership.

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:04 pm
by Clubmaker2
How many times and ways can they walk back that first big press conference lol.... what a goat rope show...

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:08 pm
by Diddy_KellOfBabyOil
If it's a transition then where (bleep) bc he shouldn't be making decisions out the door so Bloom is

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:09 pm
by Clubmaker2
hilton head is 4 idiots wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:32 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:29 pm They were planning on the reset but gray and Contreras didn’t want to be traded and he failed at trading Arenado so now he’s calling it a transition instead of saying the reset failed
Yep. Those 3 NTC's have all the leverage and power.
and yet, rather than talking to these players and their agents to find the true options, the front office went in designing a master plan, and a huge press conference on a plan that wasnt even doable.... How stupid is that?

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:11 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
An Old Friend wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:40 pmYeah... I mean... I think ownership completely lost it as it pertains to attendance and viewership declines. They saw that and decided, "well, if you're not going to come, we're not going to invest in the team"... when this fanbase CLEARLY attends and watches when they feel like ownership is TRYING TO WIN.

I don't know why they lost their way, but they did without a doubt.
The sooner that people realize that rich people hate regular people, and really, really hate poor people, the better off we'll all be.

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:14 pm
by thetank2
imadangman wrote: 16 Feb 2025 14:49 pm This is as much as they prepared to do before the 2020 season, before covid blew the season. They have a history of this.
They have a history of being very successful.

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:16 pm
by thetank2
Diddy_KellOfBabyOil wrote: 16 Feb 2025 16:08 pm If it's a transition then where (bleep) bc he shouldn't be making decisions out the door so Bloom is
Red Sox fans thought Bloom was indecisive.

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:16 pm
by 82birds
Clubmaker2 wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:04 pm a rudderless ship at this point. changing its long term goal every other month to match whatever they havent gotten done lol. Or to boost ticket sales.

Again, Mo being Mo at his Mo best, he as a GM , again fails to convert assets the cardinals have, into assets the cardinals need.
superbly well said IMO

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:18 pm
by 82birds
Bloom is probably thinking, what kind of a clown show did I get myself into.

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:18 pm
by Quincy Varnish
An Old Friend wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:15 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:03 pm I think Mo should call it a “fart parade”.
It would at least be more entertaining.

Come to think of it... the White Sox may be an actual fart parade. Have you seen their projected opening day rotation? My god. 8O
All these generally useless minor league signings actually do strike me as a parade of farts.

If Mo wants to preserve some kind of [fork]ing legacy, he COULD have his own Brock for Broglio, Bagwell for Anderson, or Smoltz for Alexander. Instead we have the fart parade.

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:19 pm
by JuanAgosto
Clubmaker2 wrote: 16 Feb 2025 16:09 pm
hilton head is 4 idiots wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:32 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:29 pm They were planning on the reset but gray and Contreras didn’t want to be traded and he failed at trading Arenado so now he’s calling it a transition instead of saying the reset failed
Yep. Those 3 NTC's have all the leverage and power.
and yet, rather than talking to these players and their agents to find the true options, the front office went in designing a master plan, and a huge press conference on a plan that wasnt even doable.... How stupid is that?
It's how Mo operates. Never proactive, always reactive.

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:22 pm
by sikeston bulldog2
I’m thinking the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:46 pm
by 11WSChamps
The correct word is "criminal".

To be the steward of the most storied franchise in the national league with generational fans from coast to coast and letting this slide this far downhill is just that a crime.

Front office personnel to be on that field for opening day ceremonies should be ashamed of themselves.

It would be appropriate if the Clydesdales took a celebratory dump right where MO and Dewitt's vehicles let them off near home plate.

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 16:56 pm
by Clubmaker2
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 16 Feb 2025 16:22 pm I’m thinking the more things change, the more they stay the same.
+1

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Posted: 16 Feb 2025 17:12 pm
by An Old Friend
Well, I transitioned to cancelling my MLBTV subscription and instead will buy the Guardians package… $99.99 for the season. Kids will finally get to see the local team on TV on a regular basis.

I’ll watch Cardinals highlights and catch them when/if they’re on national TV.