It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
Flashbacks.

You can just sense the ban percolating.

It will be glorious
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:29 pm
Drewman+ wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:27 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:25 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:20 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:15 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
I don't recall "most posters" writing that. What people posted was that a 104 OPS+, 41 XBH, and 78 RBI in 595 PA is not the amazing feat you believe it is. Especially for a guy who can't run or field. I have no idea how productive Gorman and Walker will be this season.
So how do you see it for Walker, Gorman and Burleson in '25?
I'm not playing your juvenile game since you are not serious about discussing baseball. You create thread after thread about Burleson, or hijack threads (including your own) to make it all about Burleson. Stop acting like an imbecile and quit drooling over a below average player. Act in good faith and people will be happy to talk baseball with you.
So you don't have the fortitude to even venture a guess as to how that "below average player" will do in '25? And you accuse me of not being serious about discussing baseball. "The proof is in the pudding".
ok
Wally
Robert Shelton
Shady
Hardmaple
Sanusual6
Etc
You continue to be a worthless contributor to baseball discussion.I know you don't have what it takes to venture, even a guess, as to how you feel Burleson will do in '25.
So just to be clear....you did not create or use these profiles? "Buttercup" to that list. Yes or NO.

Careful how you answer. People with receipts can and will provide the proof.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:27 pm
Pura Vida wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:24 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
Burleson is a keeper to me. His natural ability to hit will only get better and he can hurt you in more ways that one, with the bat. His glove will continue to improve.
Burleson is a heckuva lot better first baseman than many seem to feel. He'd be fine there if it don't work out for Contreras.
Still feel Burly ends up on first? Stupid. Contreras is a far superior hitter and I'm willing to bet money he's a better fielding first baseman. Former catchers typically have no issue transitioning to first.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Drewman+ wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:35 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:29 pm
Drewman+ wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:27 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:25 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:20 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:15 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
I don't recall "most posters" writing that. What people posted was that a 104 OPS+, 41 XBH, and 78 RBI in 595 PA is not the amazing feat you believe it is. Especially for a guy who can't run or field. I have no idea how productive Gorman and Walker will be this season.
So how do you see it for Walker, Gorman and Burleson in '25?
I'm not playing your juvenile game since you are not serious about discussing baseball. You create thread after thread about Burleson, or hijack threads (including your own) to make it all about Burleson. Stop acting like an imbecile and quit drooling over a below average player. Act in good faith and people will be happy to talk baseball with you.
So you don't have the fortitude to even venture a guess as to how that "below average player" will do in '25? And you accuse me of not being serious about discussing baseball. "The proof is in the pudding".
ok
Wally
Robert Shelton
Shady
Hardmaple
Sanusual6
Etc
You continue to be a worthless contributor to baseball discussion.I know you don't have what it takes to venture, even a guess, as to how you feel Burleson will do in '25.
So just to be clear....you did not create or use these profiles? "Buttercup" to that list. Yes or NO.

Careful how you answer. People with receipts can and will provide the proof.
You are simply worthless at baseball discussion.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:35 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
Flashbacks.

You can just sense the ban percolating.

It will be glorious
Why's that? It's baseball discussion regarding some key Cardinals players. Chill. Try contributing something relevant to the discussion.
Last edited by Shady on 30 Jan 2025 16:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:41 pm
Drewman+ wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:35 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:29 pm
Drewman+ wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:27 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:25 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:20 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:15 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
I don't recall "most posters" writing that. What people posted was that a 104 OPS+, 41 XBH, and 78 RBI in 595 PA is not the amazing feat you believe it is. Especially for a guy who can't run or field. I have no idea how productive Gorman and Walker will be this season.
So how do you see it for Walker, Gorman and Burleson in '25?
I'm not playing your juvenile game since you are not serious about discussing baseball. You create thread after thread about Burleson, or hijack threads (including your own) to make it all about Burleson. Stop acting like an imbecile and quit drooling over a below average player. Act in good faith and people will be happy to talk baseball with you.
So you don't have the fortitude to even venture a guess as to how that "below average player" will do in '25? And you accuse me of not being serious about discussing baseball. "The proof is in the pudding".
ok
Wally
Robert Shelton
Shady
Hardmaple
Sanusual6
Etc
You continue to be a worthless contributor to baseball discussion.I know you don't have what it takes to venture, even a guess, as to how you feel Burleson will do in '25.
So just to be clear....you did not create or use these profiles? "Buttercup" to that list. Yes or NO.

Careful how you answer. People with receipts can and will provide the proof.
You are simply worthless at baseball discussion.

#liar
#reported
#coward
#bannedagain
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

Post by Monsieur De Treville »

Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:41 pm
Drewman+ wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:35 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:29 pm
Drewman+ wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:27 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:25 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:20 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:15 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
I don't recall "most posters" writing that. What people posted was that a 104 OPS+, 41 XBH, and 78 RBI in 595 PA is not the amazing feat you believe it is. Especially for a guy who can't run or field. I have no idea how productive Gorman and Walker will be this season.
So how do you see it for Walker, Gorman and Burleson in '25?
I'm not playing your juvenile game since you are not serious about discussing baseball. You create thread after thread about Burleson, or hijack threads (including your own) to make it all about Burleson. Stop acting like an imbecile and quit drooling over a below average player. Act in good faith and people will be happy to talk baseball with you.
So you don't have the fortitude to even venture a guess as to how that "below average player" will do in '25? And you accuse me of not being serious about discussing baseball. "The proof is in the pudding".
ok
Wally
Robert Shelton
Shady
Hardmaple
Sanusual6
Etc
You continue to be a worthless contributor to baseball discussion.I know you don't have what it takes to venture, even a guess, as to how you feel Burleson will do in '25.
So just to be clear....you did not create or use these profiles? "Buttercup" to that list. Yes or NO.

Careful how you answer. People with receipts can and will provide the proof.
You are simply worthless at baseball discussion.
He sure didn't deny it...
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:56 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:41 pm
Drewman+ wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:35 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:29 pm
Drewman+ wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:27 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:25 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:20 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:15 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
I don't recall "most posters" writing that. What people posted was that a 104 OPS+, 41 XBH, and 78 RBI in 595 PA is not the amazing feat you believe it is. Especially for a guy who can't run or field. I have no idea how productive Gorman and Walker will be this season.
So how do you see it for Walker, Gorman and Burleson in '25?
I'm not playing your juvenile game since you are not serious about discussing baseball. You create thread after thread about Burleson, or hijack threads (including your own) to make it all about Burleson. Stop acting like an imbecile and quit drooling over a below average player. Act in good faith and people will be happy to talk baseball with you.
So you don't have the fortitude to even venture a guess as to how that "below average player" will do in '25? And you accuse me of not being serious about discussing baseball. "The proof is in the pudding".
ok
Wally
Robert Shelton
Shady
Hardmaple
Sanusual6
Etc
You continue to be a worthless contributor to baseball discussion.I know you don't have what it takes to venture, even a guess, as to how you feel Burleson will do in '25.
So just to be clear....you did not create or use these profiles? "Buttercup" to that list. Yes or NO.

Careful how you answer. People with receipts can and will provide the proof.
You are simply worthless at baseball discussion.
He sure didn't deny it...
Nope. He's an outed coward. Who doxed herself. Nobody takes her/him/it/them seriously. Anywhere.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:42 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:35 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
Flashbacks.

You can just sense the ban percolating.

It will be glorious
Why's that? It's baseball discussion regarding some key Cardinals players. Chill. Try contributing something relevant to the discussion.
Another step closer...get the popcorn warming
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
I don't recall "most posters" writing that. What people posted was that a 104 OPS+, 41 XBH, and 78 RBI in 595 PA is not the amazing feat you believe it is. Especially for a guy who can't run or field. I have no idea how productive Gorman and Walker will be this season.
this^, 100% this.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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So far in their careers both Walker and Gorman have hit better than Burleson. Both also have higher ceilings at the plate than Burleson.

.255 .317 .423 .740 643 Walker age 22
.222 .301 .435 .737 1179 Gorman age 24
.256 .307 .402 .709 995 Burleson age 25

The problem is that all three of them resemble Michael Jackson.
They all wear a glove on one hand for no apparent reason!

Outs Above Average / Position / Innings
-20 2B 2000 Gorman
0 1B 127 Gorman
-20 Total 2127 Gorman

-11 RF 1139 Walker
-7 LF 152 Walker
-18 Total 1291 Walker

-8 LF 539 Burleson
-8 RF 474 Burleson
-2 1B 150 Burleson
-18 Total 1163 Burleson

My opinion: Trade high on Burleson right now. This frees up playing time for others just as much as trading Arenado.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Jan 2025 17:12 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:42 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:35 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
Flashbacks.

You can just sense the ban percolating.

It will be glorious
Why's that? It's baseball discussion regarding some key Cardinals players. Chill. Try contributing something relevant to the discussion.
Another step closer...get the popcorn warming
Someone recently defined the normal pattern mable exhibits prior to a full meltdown. (Mort?) We're almost there.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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cardstatman wrote: 30 Jan 2025 17:23 pm So far in their careers both Walker and Gorman have hit better than Burleson. Both also have higher ceilings at the plate than Burleson.

.255 .317 .423 .740 643 Walker age 22
.222 .301 .435 .737 1179 Gorman age 24
.256 .307 .402 .709 995 Burleson age 25

The problem is that all three of them resemble Michael Jackson.
They all wear a glove on one hand for no apparent reason!

Outs Above Average / Position / Innings
-20 2B 2000 Gorman
0 1B 127 Gorman
-20 Total 2127 Gorman

-11 RF 1139 Walker
-7 LF 152 Walker
-18 Total 1291 Walker

-8 LF 539 Burleson
-8 RF 474 Burleson
-2 1B 150 Burleson
-18 Total 1163 Burleson

My opinion: Trade high on Burleson right now. This frees up playing time for others just as much as trading Arenado.
"So far in their careers both Walker and Gorman have hit better than Burleson". So where was this superior Walker and Gorman production last season when Burleson was leading the team in RBIs?
Last edited by Shady on 30 Jan 2025 17:39 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:32 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:30 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
I don't recall "most posters" writing that. What people posted was that a 104 OPS+, 41 XBH, and 78 RBI in 595 PA is not the amazing feat you believe it is. Especially for a guy who can't run or field. I have no idea how productive Gorman and Walker will be this season.
Exactly. But ole Shady/Maple/Wally/Robert E will never understand.
OK, let's see your offensive stats predictions for Burleson in '25. It seems you feel he should just be DFAed.
Did you create and post under the handle "PureVida" too . He uses lots of "quotes" like you.
Don't lie. You know what you did.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Pura Vida wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:24 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
Burleson is a keeper to me. His natural ability to hit will only get better and he can hurt you in more ways that one, with the bat. His glove will continue to improve.
More self talk Marsha? That's really weird dude?
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 17:34 pm
cardstatman wrote: 30 Jan 2025 17:23 pm So far in their careers both Walker and Gorman have hit better than Burleson. Both also have higher ceilings at the plate than Burleson.

.255 .317 .423 .740 643 Walker age 22
.222 .301 .435 .737 1179 Gorman age 24
.256 .307 .402 .709 995 Burleson age 25

The problem is that all three of them resemble Michael Jackson.
They all wear a glove on one hand for no apparent reason!

Outs Above Average / Position / Innings
-20 2B 2000 Gorman
0 1B 127 Gorman
-20 Total 2127 Gorman

-11 RF 1139 Walker
-7 LF 152 Walker
-18 Total 1291 Walker

-8 LF 539 Burleson
-8 RF 474 Burleson
-2 1B 150 Burleson
-18 Total 1163 Burleson

My opinion: Trade high on Burleson right now. This frees up playing time for others just as much as trading Arenado.
"So far in their careers both Walker and Gorman have hit better than Burleson". So where was this superior Walker and Gorman production last season when Burleson was leading the team in RBIs?
Well, he said in their "careers".

Do I need to explain to you the difference between a career and 2024?
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