After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

[Cranny]

Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.

But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME

And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.

Anyone one? Probably not. There are posters on here older than you are.

He stated fan. Not age. Meaning he has been doing this for awhile. Maybe another older fan started later in life. He could have a point.

There are fans on here who have been fans longer than Red.

I don’t disagree. But he has a point. He is longer than some. For instance. If red was a fan at six and is eighty two- 76 years of fandom.

You, who are older, may became a fan at eight. Although older, you still have same or less fandom. That was how I saw it.

I don't consider anyone who never dreamed of being a Major League player is a lifelong fan. Someone may be a year two older, but that doesn't make them a lifelong fan.

I pitched in high school, college, and semi-pro but never dreamed of being a major league pitcher. Too much of a realist. Plus Vietnam was heating up fast.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.

But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME

And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.

Anyone one? Probably not. There are posters on here older than you are.

He stated fan. Not age. Meaning he has been doing this for awhile. Maybe another older fan started later in life. He could have a point.

There are fans on here who have been fans longer than Red.

I don’t disagree. But he has a point. He is longer than some. For instance. If red was a fan at six and is eighty two- 76 years of fandom.

You, who are older, may became a fan at eight. Although older, you still have same or less fandom. That was how I saw it.

I don't consider anyone who never dreamed of being a Major League player is a lifelong fan. Someone may be a year two older, but that doesn't make them a lifelong fan.

I played as much as you could back then. Don’t recall ever wanting to be a pro, found myself mimicking and imitating the pros daily though.

[rockondlouie]

Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.

I enjoy winning
I enjoy watching our team play fundamentally sound baseball
I enjoy a team that is competing to win a division
I enjoy watching players develop in the minors and seeing their performances improve (ala Joshua Baez)
I enjoy watching players who get called up - watching their parents in the stands with tears in their eyes

I don't enjoy complaining - because it solves nothing

Squeaky wheel gets the grease

So you actually think that complaining on one of a number of anonymous Cardinal forums gets some "grease"? LOL.

By the way, does anyone know who "Baghdad Bob" is?

Sure Iraqi War

And squeaky wheel can also equate to attendance, I'd say that got some "grease".

[OldRed]

Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.

But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME

And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.

Anyone one? Probably not. There are posters on here older than you are.

He stated fan. Not age. Meaning he has been doing this for awhile. Maybe another older fan started later in life. He could have a point.

There are fans on here who have been fans longer than Red.

I don’t disagree. But he has a point. He is longer than some. For instance. If red was a fan at six and is eighty two- 76 years of fandom.

You, who are older, may became a fan at eight. Although older, you still have same or less fandom. That was how I saw it.

I don't consider anyone who never dreamed of being a Major League player is a lifelong fan. Someone may be a year two older, but that doesn't make them a lifelong fan.

I pitched in high school, college, and semi-pro but never dreamed of being a major league pitcher. Too much of a realist. Plus Vietnam was heating up fast.

I always thought semi-pro leagues ended in the 1940's. I also thought you said once you played second base. No big deal either way.

[WLTFE]

I'm guessing there is some 'exaggeration' in some people's history...especially on an anonymous internet forum. Might explain some discrepancies in what they post.

[Cranny]

Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.

But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME

And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.

Anyone one? Probably not. There are posters on here older than you are.

He stated fan. Not age. Meaning he has been doing this for awhile. Maybe another older fan started later in life. He could have a point.

There are fans on here who have been fans longer than Red.

I don’t disagree. But he has a point. He is longer than some. For instance. If red was a fan at six and is eighty two- 76 years of fandom.

You, who are older, may became a fan at eight. Although older, you still have same or less fandom. That was how I saw it.

I don't consider anyone who never dreamed of being a Major League player is a lifelong fan. Someone may be a year two older, but that doesn't make them a lifelong fan.

I pitched in high school, college, and semi-pro but never dreamed of being a major league pitcher. Too much of a realist. Plus Vietnam was heating up fast.

I always thought semi-pro leagues ended in the 1940's. I also thought you said once you played second base. No big deal either way.

I'm left handed, so played 1st base in high school when not pitching. Was only a pitcher in college. Was also only a pitcher on a semi-pro team. I was the starter and the reliever was Dave Sisler, who had retired from the Red Sox the year before, and come home to St. Louis where he grew up. Dave went on to become one of the senior executives at A.G. Edwards.