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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:39 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:21 pm
Cranny wrote: 18 Mar 2026 18:49 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Mar 2026 22:28 pm Bloom unloaded payroll plain and simple.

If Fitts and Dobbins had any kind of major upside I doubt Red Sox would have included them in a deal.

The younger prospects acquired we won't know about for a couple of years at least.

The importance in the deals is working capital in giving possible extensions to buy out arbitration years to young players who are deemed to be part of the future or perhaps sign a player to fill a need once they are in position to contend.

The sheer number of pitchers someone is bound to shake out and perhaps be a difference maker among the prospects but again I believe thecreal value comes in the money freed up.
Bloom wanted to get pitchers who were ML ready.
And he got them. Pitchers that were under control for multiple years. Value for value.
Fitts in Memphis and Dobbins is on the IL.

That's not major league ready.

The other pitchers acquired are years away if they get here at all.

This is why I was telling the dreamers here that depth is different from simply having warm bodies in the rotation.

Question for those folks: If a rotation starter goes down in the first month where is the depth to replace him?
Matthew’s or fitts. Just because a pitcher is in Memphis doesn’t mean he’s not major league ready. I guess you think mcgreevy wasn’t major league ready last season because he spent most of the time at Memphis. Dobbins isn’t far from being ready he’s been pitching they are just going slow on his progression on fielding his position. That’s three. Bryan Mautz will be at Memphis he could see time if things get really bad with injuries
It doesn't mean he is either.

Graceffo was in Memphis for how long?

Never became a rotation pitcher here. I can name examples too.

You still can't grasp the difference between depth and numbers of warm bodies.

Mathews, Fitts, Dobbins, Leahy and Pallante for that matter have proven no sustainability as of yet in their careers as rotation pieces and McGreevey and Liberatore are just getting their feet wet in what would be their first full season as starters in the ML.
I don’t think you understand what depth is
That's why there's a difference in the terms and you're oblivious to the logic.

Anybody else here knows the difference.
lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:39 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:21 pm
Cranny wrote: 18 Mar 2026 18:49 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Mar 2026 22:28 pm Bloom unloaded payroll plain and simple.

If Fitts and Dobbins had any kind of major upside I doubt Red Sox would have included them in a deal.

The younger prospects acquired we won't know about for a couple of years at least.

The importance in the deals is working capital in giving possible extensions to buy out arbitration years to young players who are deemed to be part of the future or perhaps sign a player to fill a need once they are in position to contend.

The sheer number of pitchers someone is bound to shake out and perhaps be a difference maker among the prospects but again I believe thecreal value comes in the money freed up.
Bloom wanted to get pitchers who were ML ready.
And he got them. Pitchers that were under control for multiple years. Value for value.
Fitts in Memphis and Dobbins is on the IL.

That's not major league ready.

The other pitchers acquired are years away if they get here at all.

This is why I was telling the dreamers here that depth is different from simply having warm bodies in the rotation.

Question for those folks: If a rotation starter goes down in the first month where is the depth to replace him?
Matthew’s or fitts. Just because a pitcher is in Memphis doesn’t mean he’s not major league ready. I guess you think mcgreevy wasn’t major league ready last season because he spent most of the time at Memphis. Dobbins isn’t far from being ready he’s been pitching they are just going slow on his progression on fielding his position. That’s three. Bryan Mautz will be at Memphis he could see time if things get really bad with injuries
It doesn't mean he is either.

Graceffo was in Memphis for how long?

Never became a rotation pitcher here. I can name examples too.

You still can't grasp the difference between depth and numbers of warm bodies.

Mathews, Fitts, Dobbins, Leahy and Pallante for that matter have proven no sustainability as of yet in their careers as rotation pieces and McGreevey and Liberatore are just getting their feet wet in what would be their first full season as starters in the ML.
I don’t think you understand what depth is
That's why there's a difference in the terms and you're oblivious to the logic.

Anybody else here knows the difference.
lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:21 pm
Cranny wrote: 18 Mar 2026 18:49 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Mar 2026 22:28 pm Bloom unloaded payroll plain and simple.

If Fitts and Dobbins had any kind of major upside I doubt Red Sox would have included them in a deal.

The younger prospects acquired we won't know about for a couple of years at least.

The importance in the deals is working capital in giving possible extensions to buy out arbitration years to young players who are deemed to be part of the future or perhaps sign a player to fill a need once they are in position to contend.

The sheer number of pitchers someone is bound to shake out and perhaps be a difference maker among the prospects but again I believe thecreal value comes in the money freed up.
Bloom wanted to get pitchers who were ML ready.
And he got them. Pitchers that were under control for multiple years. Value for value.
Fitts in Memphis and Dobbins is on the IL.

That's not major league ready.

The other pitchers acquired are years away if they get here at all.

This is why I was telling the dreamers here that depth is different from simply having warm bodies in the rotation.

Question for those folks: If a rotation starter goes down in the first month where is the depth to replace him?
Fitts has had 10 major league starts.
Dobbins has had 11 major league starts.

That’s a long way from getting high A or AA pitchers back.
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:39 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:21 pm
Cranny wrote: 18 Mar 2026 18:49 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Mar 2026 22:28 pm Bloom unloaded payroll plain and simple.

If Fitts and Dobbins had any kind of major upside I doubt Red Sox would have included them in a deal.

The younger prospects acquired we won't know about for a couple of years at least.

The importance in the deals is working capital in giving possible extensions to buy out arbitration years to young players who are deemed to be part of the future or perhaps sign a player to fill a need once they are in position to contend.

The sheer number of pitchers someone is bound to shake out and perhaps be a difference maker among the prospects but again I believe thecreal value comes in the money freed up.
Bloom wanted to get pitchers who were ML ready.
And he got them. Pitchers that were under control for multiple years. Value for value.
Fitts in Memphis and Dobbins is on the IL.

That's not major league ready.

The other pitchers acquired are years away if they get here at all.

This is why I was telling the dreamers here that depth is different from simply having warm bodies in the rotation.

Question for those folks: If a rotation starter goes down in the first month where is the depth to replace him?
Matthew’s or fitts. Just because a pitcher is in Memphis doesn’t mean he’s not major league ready. I guess you think mcgreevy wasn’t major league ready last season because he spent most of the time at Memphis. Dobbins isn’t far from being ready he’s been pitching they are just going slow on his progression on fielding his position. That’s three. Bryan Mautz will be at Memphis he could see time if things get really bad with injuries
It doesn't mean he is either.

Graceffo was in Memphis for how long?

Never became a rotation pitcher here. I can name examples too.

You still can't grasp the difference between depth and numbers of warm bodies.

Mathews, Fitts, Dobbins, Leahy and Pallante for that matter have proven no sustainability as of yet in their careers as rotation pieces and McGreevey and Liberatore are just getting their feet wet in what would be their first full season as starters in the ML.
I don’t think you understand what depth is
That's why there's a difference in the terms and you're oblivious to the logic.

Anybody else here knows the difference.
lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:39 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:21 pm
Cranny wrote: 18 Mar 2026 18:49 pm

Bloom wanted to get pitchers who were ML ready.
And he got them. Pitchers that were under control for multiple years. Value for value.
Fitts in Memphis and Dobbins is on the IL.

That's not major league ready.

The other pitchers acquired are years away if they get here at all.

This is why I was telling the dreamers here that depth is different from simply having warm bodies in the rotation.

Question for those folks: If a rotation starter goes down in the first month where is the depth to replace him?
Matthew’s or fitts. Just because a pitcher is in Memphis doesn’t mean he’s not major league ready. I guess you think mcgreevy wasn’t major league ready last season because he spent most of the time at Memphis. Dobbins isn’t far from being ready he’s been pitching they are just going slow on his progression on fielding his position. That’s three. Bryan Mautz will be at Memphis he could see time if things get really bad with injuries
It doesn't mean he is either.

Graceffo was in Memphis for how long?

Never became a rotation pitcher here. I can name examples too.

You still can't grasp the difference between depth and numbers of warm bodies.

Mathews, Fitts, Dobbins, Leahy and Pallante for that matter have proven no sustainability as of yet in their careers as rotation pieces and McGreevey and Liberatore are just getting their feet wet in what would be their first full season as starters in the ML.
I don’t think you understand what depth is
That's why there's a difference in the terms and you're oblivious to the logic.

Anybody else here knows the difference.
lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.

You sure picked a great example. What OF depth? :lol:
Right he traded the depth and he traded starting pitching depth to get outfielder in ozuna that worked out great didn’t it lol
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:22 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:39 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:21 pm

Fitts in Memphis and Dobbins is on the IL.

That's not major league ready.

The other pitchers acquired are years away if they get here at all.

This is why I was telling the dreamers here that depth is different from simply having warm bodies in the rotation.

Question for those folks: If a rotation starter goes down in the first month where is the depth to replace him?
Matthew’s or fitts. Just because a pitcher is in Memphis doesn’t mean he’s not major league ready. I guess you think mcgreevy wasn’t major league ready last season because he spent most of the time at Memphis. Dobbins isn’t far from being ready he’s been pitching they are just going slow on his progression on fielding his position. That’s three. Bryan Mautz will be at Memphis he could see time if things get really bad with injuries
It doesn't mean he is either.

Graceffo was in Memphis for how long?

Never became a rotation pitcher here. I can name examples too.

You still can't grasp the difference between depth and numbers of warm bodies.

Mathews, Fitts, Dobbins, Leahy and Pallante for that matter have proven no sustainability as of yet in their careers as rotation pieces and McGreevey and Liberatore are just getting their feet wet in what would be their first full season as starters in the ML.
I don’t think you understand what depth is
That's why there's a difference in the terms and you're oblivious to the logic.

Anybody else here knows the difference.
lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.

You sure picked a great example. What OF depth? :lol:
Right he traded the depth and he traded starting pitching depth to get outfielder in ozuna that worked out great didn’t it lol
So MO is still the GM?

The point of the exercise is if you feel you have depth you can use that to improve the ballclub or try too.

Your example only proves my point.

None of those pitchers I mentioned were going to get you an Arozarena type talent at the time they traded him.
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:22 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:39 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:21 pm

Fitts in Memphis and Dobbins is on the IL.

That's not major league ready.

The other pitchers acquired are years away if they get here at all.

This is why I was telling the dreamers here that depth is different from simply having warm bodies in the rotation.

Question for those folks: If a rotation starter goes down in the first month where is the depth to replace him?
Matthew’s or fitts. Just because a pitcher is in Memphis doesn’t mean he’s not major league ready. I guess you think mcgreevy wasn’t major league ready last season because he spent most of the time at Memphis. Dobbins isn’t far from being ready he’s been pitching they are just going slow on his progression on fielding his position. That’s three. Bryan Mautz will be at Memphis he could see time if things get really bad with injuries
It doesn't mean he is either.

Graceffo was in Memphis for how long?

Never became a rotation pitcher here. I can name examples too.

You still can't grasp the difference between depth and numbers of warm bodies.

Mathews, Fitts, Dobbins, Leahy and Pallante for that matter have proven no sustainability as of yet in their careers as rotation pieces and McGreevey and Liberatore are just getting their feet wet in what would be their first full season as starters in the ML.
I don’t think you understand what depth is
That's why there's a difference in the terms and you're oblivious to the logic.

Anybody else here knows the difference.
lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.

You sure picked a great example. What OF depth? :lol:
Right he traded the depth and he traded starting pitching depth to get outfielder in ozuna that worked out great didn’t it lol
You really are simple.

Now you're comparing Alcantara and Gallen to the pitchers I mentioned. :lol: :lol:

Go to bed.
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:22 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:39 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 20:45 pm

Matthew’s or fitts. Just because a pitcher is in Memphis doesn’t mean he’s not major league ready. I guess you think mcgreevy wasn’t major league ready last season because he spent most of the time at Memphis. Dobbins isn’t far from being ready he’s been pitching they are just going slow on his progression on fielding his position. That’s three. Bryan Mautz will be at Memphis he could see time if things get really bad with injuries
It doesn't mean he is either.

Graceffo was in Memphis for how long?

Never became a rotation pitcher here. I can name examples too.

You still can't grasp the difference between depth and numbers of warm bodies.

Mathews, Fitts, Dobbins, Leahy and Pallante for that matter have proven no sustainability as of yet in their careers as rotation pieces and McGreevey and Liberatore are just getting their feet wet in what would be their first full season as starters in the ML.
I don’t think you understand what depth is
That's why there's a difference in the terms and you're oblivious to the logic.

Anybody else here knows the difference.
lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.

You sure picked a great example. What OF depth? :lol:
Right he traded the depth and he traded starting pitching depth to get outfielder in ozuna that worked out great didn’t it lol
You really are simple.

Now you're comparing Alcantara and Gallen to the pitchers I mentioned. :lol: :lol:

Go to bed.
lol you truly are an idiot
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:33 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:22 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:39 pm

It doesn't mean he is either.

Graceffo was in Memphis for how long?

Never became a rotation pitcher here. I can name examples too.

You still can't grasp the difference between depth and numbers of warm bodies.

Mathews, Fitts, Dobbins, Leahy and Pallante for that matter have proven no sustainability as of yet in their careers as rotation pieces and McGreevey and Liberatore are just getting their feet wet in what would be their first full season as starters in the ML.
I don’t think you understand what depth is
That's why there's a difference in the terms and you're oblivious to the logic.

Anybody else here knows the difference.
lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.

You sure picked a great example. What OF depth? :lol:
Right he traded the depth and he traded starting pitching depth to get outfielder in ozuna that worked out great didn’t it lol
You really are simple.

Now you're comparing Alcantara and Gallen to the pitchers I mentioned. :lol: :lol:

Go to bed.
lol you truly are an idiot
No you're the freakin' idiot.

You ramble on with illogical baseball talk and post yourself into a corner as you have here.

Your comparisons are pure stupidity.
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:37 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:33 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:22 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:42 pm

I don’t think you understand what depth is
That's why there's a difference in the terms and you're oblivious to the logic.

Anybody else here knows the difference.
lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.

You sure picked a great example. What OF depth? :lol:
Right he traded the depth and he traded starting pitching depth to get outfielder in ozuna that worked out great didn’t it lol
You really are simple.

Now you're comparing Alcantara and Gallen to the pitchers I mentioned. :lol: :lol:

Go to bed.
lol you truly are an idiot
No you're the freakin' idiot.

You ramble on with illogical baseball talk and post yourself into a corner as you have here.

Your comparisons are pure stupidity.
You’re a dim wit lol you advocate bloom continuing mos disastrous practice of trading depth that is needed you’re a real clown
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:37 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:33 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:22 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:44 pm

That's why there's a difference in the terms and you're oblivious to the logic.

Anybody else here knows the difference.
lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.

You sure picked a great example. What OF depth? :lol:
Right he traded the depth and he traded starting pitching depth to get outfielder in ozuna that worked out great didn’t it lol
You really are simple.

Now you're comparing Alcantara and Gallen to the pitchers I mentioned. :lol: :lol:

Go to bed.
lol you truly are an idiot
No you're the freakin' idiot.

You ramble on with illogical baseball talk and post yourself into a corner as you have here.

Your comparisons are pure stupidity.
You’re a dim wit lol you advocate bloom continuing mos disastrous practice of trading depth that is needed you’re a real clown
I never advocated anything I was using what you believe as depth as an example and why they couldn't get any talent for them.

dumb[ash].
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

Post by Ozziesfan41 »

11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:37 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:33 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:22 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:45 pm

lol I don’t think you understand what depth is
So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.

You sure picked a great example. What OF depth? :lol:
Right he traded the depth and he traded starting pitching depth to get outfielder in ozuna that worked out great didn’t it lol
You really are simple.

Now you're comparing Alcantara and Gallen to the pitchers I mentioned. :lol: :lol:

Go to bed.
lol you truly are an idiot
No you're the freakin' idiot.

You ramble on with illogical baseball talk and post yourself into a corner as you have here.

Your comparisons are pure stupidity.
You’re a dim wit lol you advocate bloom continuing mos disastrous practice of trading depth that is needed you’re a real clown
I never advocated anything I was using what you believe as depth as an example and why they couldn't get any talent for them.

dumb[ash].
And I explained to you why he wasn’t going to do it but you’re an idiot
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:46 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:37 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:33 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:22 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:50 pm

So if we have all this "depth" in the rotation why wouldn't Bloom had found a trade partner for maybe let say an OF'er who can actually hit a little for example?

Even a number 4 guy would be in demand for some teams rotation.

Like I said before you're in over your head.
lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.

You sure picked a great example. What OF depth? :lol:
Right he traded the depth and he traded starting pitching depth to get outfielder in ozuna that worked out great didn’t it lol
You really are simple.

Now you're comparing Alcantara and Gallen to the pitchers I mentioned. :lol: :lol:

Go to bed.
lol you truly are an idiot
No you're the freakin' idiot.

You ramble on with illogical baseball talk and post yourself into a corner as you have here.

Your comparisons are pure stupidity.
You’re a dim wit lol you advocate bloom continuing mos disastrous practice of trading depth that is needed you’re a real clown
I never advocated anything I was using what you believe as depth as an example and why they couldn't get any talent for them.

dumb[ash].
And I explained to you why he wasn’t going to do it but you’re an idiot
And you're the one comparing Alcantara and Gallen to the likes of Fitts, Dobbins, Leahy and Pallante..so who's the idiot?

You don't know what you're talking about.

Maybe check out the home and Garden forum.
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

Post by Ozziesfan41 »

11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:53 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:46 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:44 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:39 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:37 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:33 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:22 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:18 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Mar 2026 22:02 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Mar 2026 21:58 pm

lol because he is giving noot a chance to come back from injury to hopefully build trade issue they have church and Scott who they like and they are giving a chance to they still haven’t given up on walker yet and they have Baez ready to come up and the most obvious reason if you trade depth you no longer have it and are stuck like last season with no depth where you are stuck using terrible pitchers because you have no depth to replace them. They had one guy as starting depth last season so were stuck using the same trash pitchers most of the season because if they cut one and brought up Mcgreevy to replace them then an injury happens then you’re in an even worse situation. You’re in way way over your head ignoring the fairly obvious and logical reasons
That might be the stupidest post I've seen here.

You sound like some rambling fool.

Go to bed already give that thing between your ears a well needed rest.
I see logic easily confuses you lol it’s like when mo said he had too much outfield depth and traded arorzorena turns out they needed that depth this stuff isn’t hard to grasp
Anything you say is hard to grasp.

You're all over the place here..pick a lane.

You sure picked a great example. What OF depth? :lol:
Right he traded the depth and he traded starting pitching depth to get outfielder in ozuna that worked out great didn’t it lol
You really are simple.

Now you're comparing Alcantara and Gallen to the pitchers I mentioned. :lol: :lol:

Go to bed.
lol you truly are an idiot
No you're the freakin' idiot.

You ramble on with illogical baseball talk and post yourself into a corner as you have here.

Your comparisons are pure stupidity.
You’re a dim wit lol you advocate bloom continuing mos disastrous practice of trading depth that is needed you’re a real clown
I never advocated anything I was using what you believe as depth as an example and why they couldn't get any talent for them.

dumb[ash].
And I explained to you why he wasn’t going to do it but you’re an idiot
And you're the one comparing Alcantara and Gallen to the likes of Fitts, Dobbins, Leahy and Pallante..so who's the idiot?

You don't know what you're talking about.

Maybe check out the home and Garden forum.
I was saying that’s what happens when you trade depth alcantara was the cardinals 9th ranked prospect and gallen the 13th mo thought they were depth and traded them so with no depth they had to go out and sign guys like Lynn and Gibson and trade for fedde. Keep being dumb
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Re: Pitchers received from Sox

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Fitts and Dobbins have 4 seamers that can hit 97-98, and neither can be a free agent until 2032. Both are mid to back end starters who can be contributors for a number of years.
Bloom is looking for longer term consistency.
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Cranny wrote: 19 Mar 2026 07:39 am Fitts and Dobbins have 4 seamers that can hit 97-98, and neither can be a free agent until 2032. Both are mid to back end starters who can be contributors for a number of years.
Bloom is looking for longer term consistency.
Fitts couldn’t beat out 6-15, 5.60ERA Pallante for the last spot in Cards rotation and is at AAA
Dobbins can’t seem to achieve 2 healthy stable legs to stand on the mound.
Is that the consistency Bloom is looking for?