After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 09:44 am We'll see...fortunately the bar was set very low with Mo-ran...he (bleep) this franchise the last few years and most of the front office (donkey) kissers are finally realizing how incompetent he was...
Too low for zero.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 09:48 am
WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 09:44 am We'll see...fortunately the bar was set very low with Mo-ran...he (bleep) this franchise the last few years and most of the front office (donkey) kissers are finally realizing how incompetent he was...
Too low for zero.
Be careful...you'll be chastised by the whiners who decide how others can post on here
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 09:50 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 09:48 am
WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 09:44 am We'll see...fortunately the bar was set very low with Mo-ran...he (bleep) this franchise the last few years and most of the front office (donkey) kissers are finally realizing how incompetent he was...
Too low for zero.
Be careful...you'll be chastised by the whiners who decide how others can post on here
No WS appearance last 12 years. Several years away from another. We are at the 70’s level and approaching the 90’s. These are franchise high numbers.

That’s what the whining should encompass.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: 06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: 05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: 04 Dec 2025 06:54 am The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons

That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Here another factual message -
4-15 playoff record over the past 11 seasons
1 playoff series win in the past 11 seasons
6 playoff misses in the past 10 seasons despite the fact that 40% of teams make the playoffs.

I don’t think fans who are sick and tired of playoff failure are “entitled”.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 09:17 am
Imperial Capitalist wrote: 06 Dec 2025 09:14 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 08:33 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: 06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: 05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: 04 Dec 2025 06:54 am The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons

That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Don’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.

Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Someone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:

Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
And the out of hand FA salaries haven't changed during that period of time? With the big market teams going bananas with huge long term contracts? Duh.
That’s a novel concept Cranny - blaming the Cardinals futility of the past 10 years or so on the success of other clubs.
Cranny - “If the big bad Dodgers and Mets and Blue Jays and Yankees would just stop signing free agents the Cardinals would be great!”
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Bomber1 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:00 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: 06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: 05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: 04 Dec 2025 06:54 am The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons

That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Here another factual message -
4-15 playoff record over the past 11 seasons
1 playoff series win in the past 11 seasons
6 playoff misses in the past 10 seasons despite the fact that 40% of teams make the playoffs.

I don’t think fans who are sick and tired of playoff failure are “entitled”.
Did someone promise you a WS over the past 13 years? Or just entertaining winning baseball most years.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:15 am
Bomber1 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:00 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: 06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: 05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: 04 Dec 2025 06:54 am The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons

That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Here another factual message -
4-15 playoff record over the past 11 seasons
1 playoff series win in the past 11 seasons
6 playoff misses in the past 10 seasons despite the fact that 40% of teams make the playoffs.

I don’t think fans who are sick and tired of playoff failure are “entitled”.
Did someone promise you a WS over the past 13 years? Or just entertaining winning baseball most years.
What we may be talking about seems so small; but it’s a big as the promise. The promise of a coming day.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:27 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:15 am
Bomber1 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:00 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: 06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: 05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: 04 Dec 2025 06:54 am The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons

That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Here another factual message -
4-15 playoff record over the past 11 seasons
1 playoff series win in the past 11 seasons
6 playoff misses in the past 10 seasons despite the fact that 40% of teams make the playoffs.

I don’t think fans who are sick and tired of playoff failure are “entitled”.
Did someone promise you a WS over the past 13 years? Or just entertaining winning baseball most years.
What we may be talking about seems so small; but it’s a big as the promise. The promise of a coming day.
No promises. Just entertaining and winning baseball hopefully ahead.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:37 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:27 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:15 am
Bomber1 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:00 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: 06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: 05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: 04 Dec 2025 06:54 am The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons

That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Here another factual message -
4-15 playoff record over the past 11 seasons
1 playoff series win in the past 11 seasons
6 playoff misses in the past 10 seasons despite the fact that 40% of teams make the playoffs.

I don’t think fans who are sick and tired of playoff failure are “entitled”.
Did someone promise you a WS over the past 13 years? Or just entertaining winning baseball most years.
What we may be talking about seems so small; but it’s a big as the promise. The promise of a coming day.
No promises. Just entertaining and winning baseball hopefully ahead.
You mention hopefully. Do you have doubts. And what is the measure of entertainment if not winning. Can we be entertained contently and lose.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:01 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:37 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:27 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:15 am
Bomber1 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:00 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: 06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: 05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: 04 Dec 2025 06:54 am The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons

That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Here another factual message -
4-15 playoff record over the past 11 seasons
1 playoff series win in the past 11 seasons
6 playoff misses in the past 10 seasons despite the fact that 40% of teams make the playoffs.

I don’t think fans who are sick and tired of playoff failure are “entitled”.
Did someone promise you a WS over the past 13 years? Or just entertaining winning baseball most years.
What we may be talking about seems so small; but it’s a big as the promise. The promise of a coming day.
No promises. Just entertaining and winning baseball hopefully ahead.
You mention hopefully. Do you have doubts. And what is the measure of entertainment if not winning. Can we be entertained contently and lose.
Unlike some, I enjoy every win during the regular season. I actually don't need the playoffs to achieve satisfaction. Just winning baseball, as well as watching with great interest when players are called up from the minors. Seeing their parents in the stands watching their son's dream come true is emotionally gratifying.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:15 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:01 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:37 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:27 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:15 am
Bomber1 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:00 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: 06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: 05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: 04 Dec 2025 06:54 am The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons

That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Here another factual message -
4-15 playoff record over the past 11 seasons
1 playoff series win in the past 11 seasons
6 playoff misses in the past 10 seasons despite the fact that 40% of teams make the playoffs.

I don’t think fans who are sick and tired of playoff failure are “entitled”.
Did someone promise you a WS over the past 13 years? Or just entertaining winning baseball most years.
What we may be talking about seems so small; but it’s a big as the promise. The promise of a coming day.
No promises. Just entertaining and winning baseball hopefully ahead.
You mention hopefully. Do you have doubts. And what is the measure of entertainment if not winning. Can we be entertained contently and lose.
Unlike some, I enjoy every win during the regular season. I actually don't need the playoffs to achieve satisfaction. Just winning baseball, as well as watching with great interest when players are called up from the minors. Seeing their parents in the stands watching their son's dream come true is emotionally gratifying.
Nice response. Again you mention winning baseball. I agree. How do we measure winning -.500 or better.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:17 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:15 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:01 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:37 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:27 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:15 am
Bomber1 wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:00 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: 06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: 05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: 04 Dec 2025 06:54 am The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons

That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Here another factual message -
4-15 playoff record over the past 11 seasons
1 playoff series win in the past 11 seasons
6 playoff misses in the past 10 seasons despite the fact that 40% of teams make the playoffs.

I don’t think fans who are sick and tired of playoff failure are “entitled”.
Did someone promise you a WS over the past 13 years? Or just entertaining winning baseball most years.
What we may be talking about seems so small; but it’s a big as the promise. The promise of a coming day.
No promises. Just entertaining and winning baseball hopefully ahead.
You mention hopefully. Do you have doubts. And what is the measure of entertainment if not winning. Can we be entertained contently and lose.
Unlike some, I enjoy every win during the regular season. I actually don't need the playoffs to achieve satisfaction. Just winning baseball, as well as watching with great interest when players are called up from the minors. Seeing their parents in the stands watching their son's dream come true is emotionally gratifying.
Nice response. Again you mention winning baseball. I agree. How do we measure winning -.500 or better.
Yes. Every year this century with the exception of 2007, 2023, and 2025 - 22 winning seasons vs. 3 losing seasons. And now rebuilding for the future.
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"In some places 'winning' is just a winning record, or even .500 is acceptable. Players have a nice season and go home, and get back to their families and so forth. But not in this city. Not with this franchise. Not with this history. And not with our great fans."

--Bill DeWitt, Jr.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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NYCardsFan wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:35 am
"In some places 'winning' is just a winning record, or even .500 is acceptable. Players have a nice season and go home, and get back to their families and so forth. But not in this city. Not with this franchise. Not with this history. And not with our great fans."

--Bill DeWitt, Jr.
+1...and we have Baghdad Bob telling us we should hope for everything to be great...Basically what a child would say...and the fans are speaking loud and clear.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME
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