GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 5:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 2

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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 5:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 2

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82birds wrote: 17 Aug 2026 21:10 pm
Cusecards wrote: 17 Aug 2026 21:08 pm
Whatashame wrote: 17 Aug 2026 20:54 pm
82birds wrote: 17 Aug 2026 20:38 pm Winn needs to get his head into the game.
Cost us.

Winn gets a lot of props from many here but he makes too many boneheaded mistakes that are detrimental here. IMO his runway is getting shorter and shorter as a starting SS here. There’s been times he hasn’t run out grounders, his bat is getting less productive, his baserunning mistake on the Jordan steal tonight cost them a run.

Winn doesn’t bring that much to the table where he can’t give us 100 percent every night. As has been stated many times, this team operates on a very small margin of error. Tonight Winn chasing ball 4 in extra innings and missing a steal sign which cost them a run were major mistakes as a part of that slim margin of error. His lack of production while Marmol continues to hit him in the middle of the order is becoming a problem. There are lots of reasons the Cardinals lost tonight and Winn was definitely one of them.
I hope to be able to watch Winn play SS for another decade.
Great “physical” talent.
Unfortunately at the plate he isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed.
nor on the bases tonight
Correct
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 5:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 2

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bgwinn01 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 19:12 pm
Poojols wrote: 17 Aug 2026 19:11 pm
hotrivets wrote: 17 Aug 2026 19:08 pm We made the third out at third but I never got why that is a thing
It was horrible baserunning in this case.
Totally disagree. By taking the base he assured no play at the plate. Run scored.
You would be incorrect on this one. The runner at home had it easily. I do like the play in other cases however.
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 5:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 2

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Cusecards wrote: 17 Aug 2026 21:08 pm
Whatashame wrote: 17 Aug 2026 20:54 pm
82birds wrote: 17 Aug 2026 20:38 pm Winn needs to get his head into the game.
Cost us.

Winn gets a lot of props from many here but he makes too many boneheaded mistakes that are detrimental here. IMO his runway is getting shorter and shorter as a starting SS here. There’s been times he hasn’t run out grounders, his bat is getting less productive, his baserunning mistake on the Jordan steal tonight cost them a run.

Winn doesn’t bring that much to the table where he can’t give us 100 percent every night. As has been stated many times, this team operates on a very small margin of error. Tonight Winn chasing ball 4 in extra innings and missing a steal sign which cost them a run were major mistakes as a part of that slim margin of error. His lack of production while Marmol continues to hit him in the middle of the order is becoming a problem. There are lots of reasons the Cardinals lost tonight and Winn was definitely one of them.
I hope to be able to watch Winn play SS for another decade.
Great “physical” talent.
Unfortunately at the plate he isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed.

It’s just not at the plate. His baserunning mistake wasn’t his first. His frustration at the plate causes him to take poor ABs. We have watched him jog to first after poor ABs.

I want him to be successful like many others BUT he has to keep his head in the game all of the time and not let his mental lapses cost us a game.
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 5:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 2

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Whatashame wrote: 17 Aug 2026 21:20 pm
Cusecards wrote: 17 Aug 2026 21:08 pm
Whatashame wrote: 17 Aug 2026 20:54 pm
82birds wrote: 17 Aug 2026 20:38 pm Winn needs to get his head into the game.
Cost us.

Winn gets a lot of props from many here but he makes too many boneheaded mistakes that are detrimental here. IMO his runway is getting shorter and shorter as a starting SS here. There’s been times he hasn’t run out grounders, his bat is getting less productive, his baserunning mistake on the Jordan steal tonight cost them a run.

Winn doesn’t bring that much to the table where he can’t give us 100 percent every night. As has been stated many times, this team operates on a very small margin of error. Tonight Winn chasing ball 4 in extra innings and missing a steal sign which cost them a run were major mistakes as a part of that slim margin of error. His lack of production while Marmol continues to hit him in the middle of the order is becoming a problem. There are lots of reasons the Cardinals lost tonight and Winn was definitely one of them.
I hope to be able to watch Winn play SS for another decade.
Great “physical” talent.
Unfortunately at the plate he isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed.

It’s just not at the plate. His baserunning mistake wasn’t his first. His frustration at the plate causes him to take poor ABs. We have watched him jog to first after poor ABs.

I want him to be successful like many others BUT he has to keep his head in the game all of the time and not let his mental lapses cost us a game.
+1
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Re: GDT : Cardinals @ Reds (8/17) ~ 5:40pm CDT ~ Doubleheader Game 2

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 20:36 pm
hmoss859 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 20:33 pm Remember losing doesnt matter

We’ve been told so
Who said that?
Oli has stated numerous times, that building for future is more important than the standings.

They dont even know the Wild Card standings.

They ain't stressing to win, that's for certain.

If they were, O'Brien pitches 9th in second game.