Time for the Ozzie Smith experiment to end

[Futuregm2]

No way I'd deal I. Herrera unless he'd bring back a cost controlled for multiple years #2 starting pitcher or a teams #1 prospect.

RHHer's like him are rare in todays MLB, worth their weight in gold.

Your love affair with Herrera is duly noted. In every thread

He’s right, though. Right handed hitter like Herrera are pretty rare right now, which is why a lot of teams are in the market for a player like that at the deadline. I would trade just about anyone for the right price, but I’m with him, I’m not trading Herrera unless I get a really big return.

He has a .740 OPS this year. Even if you went back to 2024, to make him look the best, he's 51st in MLB in OPS during that time and 98th in fWAR among the 200 qualified players. Is that worth making untouchable? I wouldn't give him away, but I wouldn't mind looking to see what other teams might give for him.

[nighthawk]

Ozzie was great hitting in the 2 hole. Good bat to ball skills, good bunter, good base runner. Aside from the base running, Jordan Walker is not an Ozzie Smith type hitter. He is wasted hitting behind Crooks, Pages, Church, Fermin, Jordan.

Hopefully after the deadline and theyre done show casing Hererra, they shift back to the lineup that was working for most of the season. This show case crashed and burned. Get the top 4 back where they belong, and give them a chance to regain their comfort groove.

Hitting your best hitter 1, or 2 works in Williamsport, where 2 runs will typically win. We see how it works with the Cardinals.

Makes me freaking sick that they continue this nonsense. The exciting team we saw earlier has turned into the 24, 25 Cardinals.

Bloom,....are you reading today bro? The show case is an all around fail. Nobody is trading for Ivan to make him their cleanup hitter!

You enjoy living in the past. Throughout major league baseball the number 2 slot today has the highest batting average, oba, slugging and ops than any other slot in the lineup. Definitely not the Ozzie prototype lineup position.

That does not mean it is best.

Major League managers who actually make out the lineups disagree.

Yep and that doesn't mean they are right. Just a new fad like a lot of other stuff in the game.

Ahhh....so the geniuses who never managed must be right for some reason. Rigid thought perhaps?

No, I just understand the game.

No doubt why MLB franchises are knocking on your door daily.

[Cardinals4Life]

Ozzie was great hitting in the 2 hole. Good bat to ball skills, good bunter, good base runner. Aside from the base running, Jordan Walker is not an Ozzie Smith type hitter. He is wasted hitting behind Crooks, Pages, Church, Fermin, Jordan.

Hopefully after the deadline and theyre done show casing Hererra, they shift back to the lineup that was working for most of the season. This show case crashed and burned. Get the top 4 back where they belong, and give them a chance to regain their comfort groove.

Hitting your best hitter 1, or 2 works in Williamsport, where 2 runs will typically win. We see how it works with the Cardinals.

Makes me freaking sick that they continue this nonsense. The exciting team we saw earlier has turned into the 24, 25 Cardinals.

Bloom,....are you reading today bro? The show case is an all around fail. Nobody is trading for Ivan to make him their cleanup hitter!

You enjoy living in the past. Throughout major league baseball the number 2 slot today has the highest batting average, oba, slugging and ops than any other slot in the lineup. Definitely not the Ozzie prototype lineup position.

That does not mean it is best.

Major League managers who actually make out the lineups disagree.

Yep and that doesn't mean they are right. Just a new fad like a lot of other stuff in the game.

Ahhh....so the geniuses who never managed must be right for some reason. Rigid thought perhaps?

No, I just understand the game.

No doubt why MLB franchises are knocking on your door daily.

You can understand the game and not be an MLB manager. I promise you the 30 MLB managers aren't the 30 best baseball minds in the world.

This is made clear by our very own Oli Marmol.

[AnExParrot]

Ozzie was great hitting in the 2 hole. Good bat to ball skills, good bunter, good base runner. Aside from the base running, Jordan Walker is not an Ozzie Smith type hitter. He is wasted hitting behind Crooks, Pages, Church, Fermin, Jordan.

Hopefully after the deadline and theyre done show casing Hererra, they shift back to the lineup that was working for most of the season. This show case crashed and burned. Get the top 4 back where they belong, and give them a chance to regain their comfort groove.

Hitting your best hitter 1, or 2 works in Williamsport, where 2 runs will typically win. We see how it works with the Cardinals.

Makes me freaking sick that they continue this nonsense. The exciting team we saw earlier has turned into the 24, 25 Cardinals.

Bloom,....are you reading today bro? The show case is an all around fail. Nobody is trading for Ivan to make him their cleanup hitter!

You enjoy living in the past. Throughout major league baseball the number 2 slot today has the highest batting average, oba, slugging and ops than any other slot in the lineup. Definitely not the Ozzie prototype lineup position.

They love the idea of their best hitter coming up with 2 outs and the bases empty(the absolute worst run producing situation in the game) as often as 25% of the time. They just love it!