GDT : Cardinals @ Blue Jays (8/2) ~ 12:37pm CDT

[hotrivets]

It's the Dani show with occasional baseball break-ins. Sick of it.

[82birds]

grounder to the left side Herrera.
none of us are surprised.

[cosmo.kramer]

Thx CK

and Thx Oli for giving JJW a day off.

The kid is obviously running down in his rookie season and needs more days off so he can stave off
S. Stewart (23 HR/84 RBI/.810 OPS and yes I have a fear too many voters are going to look at the traditional counting stats over JJW"s superior fWAR) for ROY!

C'mon, Rock. Don't tell me you are another one who blows off the traditional stats?

Nope, why I brought up Stewart's stats that I've been watching now for a long time

But

If you listen to those who do "blow them off", then they'd swear JJW's a "lock" given his superior fWAR that values his all round game (hitting, fielding, baserunning) over Stewarts back of the baseball card stats.

But baring a BIG Aug/Sept from JJ or a complete collapse from Stewart, I think JJW's ROY chances are slipping away.

They probably are. The reason I had asked was because of the debate ive been in on another thread. I do not understand the current philosophies of the game. Claiming rbi's aren't important because they aren't "measurable" makes no sense to me.

Clearly

[82birds]

get a stepladder Torres

[njcardfan]

That Torres AB was horrible. Watches one in the middle of the plate and swings at a pitch 6 inches above the zone.

[82birds]

That Torres AB was horrible. Watches one in the middle of the plate and swings at a pitch 6 inches above the zone.

that was not six inches above the zone.

more like 10 inches

[scoutyjones2]

Time to step up Ivan

[82birds]

Burly can hit.
Hope he's not traded.

[scoutyjones2]

C'mon Winn

[Lightning Rod]

Time to step up Ivan

I just hope he gets HBP or a BB because he isn't hitting much.

[cbcardsfan]

This team sucks

[scoutyjones2]

Burly can hit.
Hope he's not traded.

Righties. He can hit righties

[11WSChamps]

Who's available in the bullpen today?

[rockondlouie]

Time to step up Ivan

I just hope he gets HBP or a BB because he isn't hitting much.

May seem like that given the teamwide slump but in his last 8 games 1 HR/.294 .294 .500 .794.

[Lightning Rod]

This team sucks

Guys hitting .230 to .240 without much power up and down your lineup is not a conducive to scoring.

[JuanAgosto]

Thx CK

and Thx Oli for giving JJW a day off.

The kid is obviously running down in his rookie season and needs more days off so he can stave off
S. Stewart (23 HR/84 RBI/.810 OPS and yes I have a fear too many voters are going to look at the traditional counting stats over JJW"s superior fWAR) for ROY!

C'mon, Rock. Don't tell me you are another one who blows off the traditional stats?

Nope, why I brought up Stewart's stats that I've been watching now for a long time

But

If you listen to those who do "blow them off", then they'd swear JJW's a "lock" given his superior fWAR that values his all round game (hitting, fielding, baserunning) over Stewarts back of the baseball card stats.

But baring a BIG Aug/Sept from JJ or a complete collapse from Stewart, I think JJW's ROY chances are slipping away.

They probably are. The reason I had asked was because of the debate ive been in on another thread. I do not understand the current philosophies of the game. Claiming rbi's aren't important because they aren't "measurable" makes no sense to me.

Clearly

Again, a conversation between me and another poster. Butt out.