Nootbaar last game at Busch was a beauty

[Cardinals1964]

Cost Pallente a run and eventually the game

0-4 with 3ks, swings at ball 4 in dirt to end game after passively begging to walk in previous at bats

He won’t forget his last game at Busch 3

The Last of the Nootbaar

Good riddance Clown Boy

Let’s play “what if” and the blame game.
Granted Noot made a mental error. We all agree on that.
But what if Walker was out there? He might not catch that ball.
One can argue that Noot saved a double and the run would have scored anyway. So he actually saved the run because the next guy up got hit and that would’ve scored the guy that just hit the pretend double.

Then JJ put him back on top two to one with the home run.
I could blame Pallante for walking the batter that eventually scored to tie again.
I could blame Soriano for giving up that run that tied the game.
I could blame numerous players for not hitting with runners and scoring position. The last I looked, they were one for nine. I don’t know what they ended up with.

That wasn't a hard catch, guy!

I could see Walker missing it, Guy!!
That’s why it’s called “what if”.

Walker catches that ball. Not a problem.
You are just making excuses for the inexcusable.
Noot had a mental lapse. Can't happen. Period. He should have been removed or reprimanded or fined. Doubt any of the latter happened either. Marmol is no leader. He is a unqualified, wanna be bro, pseudo-manager.

Cards4life, you make sensible statements. That doesn't fit into 1964's "What If" fantasy world. See in 1964's alternate reality, Nootbaar was the star of the game. The Cardinals really lost because the DH Walker somehow dropped the ball and Pallante gave up a single.

Thx Juan.
I know. I have reread his posts several times and you can't make this stuff up. He actually tried to say Noot saved a run.om that play. I mean, WHAT PLANET AM I LIVING ON??????? This world is in sad shape my friend.

It is very strange that people can have takes that are undeniably wrong but continue to argue them. I know the dude is stubborn, but I laughed out loud when he claimed Nootbaar SAVED a run. Wow.

Don't get me started, lol. That is just another example and microcosm of our society these days. People can and will made up lunacy as FACT and you cannot convince them otherwise. Again, I often wonder what planet I am on?!?

I never stated any thing as fact. That’s where “what if” scenario comes into play.

[hmoss859]

Noot was basically a StatCast fraud for 5 years.

[Futuregm2]

Somebody’s else’s problem now

Maybe, maybe not. What if nobody wants him?

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Cost Pallente a run and eventually the game

0-4 with 3ks, swings at ball 4 in dirt to end game after passively begging to walk in previous at bats

He won’t forget his last game at Busch 3

The Last of the Nootbaar

Good riddance Clown Boy

Let’s play “what if” and the blame game.
Granted Noot made a mental error. We all agree on that.
But what if Walker was out there? He might not catch that ball.
One can argue that Noot saved a double and the run would have scored anyway. So he actually saved the run because the next guy up got hit and that would’ve scored the guy that just hit the pretend double.

Then JJ put him back on top two to one with the home run.
I could blame Pallante for walking the batter that eventually scored to tie again.
I could blame Soriano for giving up that run that tied the game.
I could blame numerous players for not hitting with runners and scoring position. The last I looked, they were one for nine. I don’t know what they ended up with.

That wasn't a hard catch, guy!

I could see Walker missing it, Guy!!
That’s why it’s called “what if”.

Walker catches that ball. Not a problem.
You are just making excuses for the inexcusable.
Noot had a mental lapse. Can't happen. Period. He should have been removed or reprimanded or fined. Doubt any of the latter happened either. Marmol is no leader. He is a unqualified, wanna be bro, pseudo-manager.

Cards4life, you make sensible statements. That doesn't fit into 1964's "What If" fantasy world. See in 1964's alternate reality, Nootbaar was the star of the game. The Cardinals really lost because the DH Walker somehow dropped the ball and Pallante gave up a single.

Thx Juan.
I know. I have reread his posts several times and you can't make this stuff up. He actually tried to say Noot saved a run.om that play. I mean, WHAT PLANET AM I LIVING ON??????? This world is in sad shape my friend.

It is very strange that people can have takes that are undeniably wrong but continue to argue them. I know the dude is stubborn, but I laughed out loud when he claimed Nootbaar SAVED a run. Wow.

Don't get me started, lol. That is just another example and microcosm of our society these days. People can and will made up lunacy as FACT and you cannot convince them otherwise. Again, I often wonder what planet I am on?!?

I never stated any thing as fact. That’s where “what if” scenario comes into play.

I've got a what if for you. What if Nootbaar were ever as good as he was hyped up to be?

His super fans insisted that heel surgery would allow us to see the real Nootbaar. They were right in a way.

[Cardinals1964]

Cost Pallente a run and eventually the game

0-4 with 3ks, swings at ball 4 in dirt to end game after passively begging to walk in previous at bats

He won’t forget his last game at Busch 3

The Last of the Nootbaar

Good riddance Clown Boy

Let’s play “what if” and the blame game.
Granted Noot made a mental error. We all agree on that.
But what if Walker was out there? He might not catch that ball.
One can argue that Noot saved a double and the run would have scored anyway. So he actually saved the run because the next guy up got hit and that would’ve scored the guy that just hit the pretend double.

Then JJ put him back on top two to one with the home run.
I could blame Pallante for walking the batter that eventually scored to tie again.
I could blame Soriano for giving up that run that tied the game.
I could blame numerous players for not hitting with runners and scoring position. The last I looked, they were one for nine. I don’t know what they ended up with.

That wasn't a hard catch, guy!

I could see Walker missing it, Guy!!
That’s why it’s called “what if”.

Walker catches that ball. Not a problem.
You are just making excuses for the inexcusable.
Noot had a mental lapse. Can't happen. Period. He should have been removed or reprimanded or fined. Doubt any of the latter happened either. Marmol is no leader. He is a unqualified, wanna be bro, pseudo-manager.

Cards4life, you make sensible statements. That doesn't fit into 1964's "What If" fantasy world. See in 1964's alternate reality, Nootbaar was the star of the game. The Cardinals really lost because the DH Walker somehow dropped the ball and Pallante gave up a single.

Thx Juan.
I know. I have reread his posts several times and you can't make this stuff up. He actually tried to say Noot saved a run.om that play. I mean, WHAT PLANET AM I LIVING ON??????? This world is in sad shape my friend.

It is very strange that people can have takes that are undeniably wrong but continue to argue them. I know the dude is stubborn, but I laughed out loud when he claimed Nootbaar SAVED a run. Wow.

Don't get me started, lol. That is just another example and microcosm of our society these days. People can and will made up lunacy as FACT and you cannot convince them otherwise. Again, I often wonder what planet I am on?!?

I never stated any thing as fact. That’s where “what if” scenario comes into play.

I've got a what if for you. What if Nootbaar were ever as good as he was hyped up to be?

His super fans insisted that heel surgery would allow us to see the real Nootbaar. They were right in a way.

I have another what if. What if he was as bad as people make out?
Where are all the people that wanted to cut Walker?

[Cardinals4Life]

Cost Pallente a run and eventually the game

0-4 with 3ks, swings at ball 4 in dirt to end game after passively begging to walk in previous at bats

He won’t forget his last game at Busch 3

The Last of the Nootbaar

Good riddance Clown Boy

Let’s play “what if” and the blame game.
Granted Noot made a mental error. We all agree on that.
But what if Walker was out there? He might not catch that ball.
One can argue that Noot saved a double and the run would have scored anyway. So he actually saved the run because the next guy up got hit and that would’ve scored the guy that just hit the pretend double.

Then JJ put him back on top two to one with the home run.
I could blame Pallante for walking the batter that eventually scored to tie again.
I could blame Soriano for giving up that run that tied the game.
I could blame numerous players for not hitting with runners and scoring position. The last I looked, they were one for nine. I don’t know what they ended up with.

That wasn't a hard catch, guy!

I could see Walker missing it, Guy!!
That’s why it’s called “what if”.

Walker catches that ball. Not a problem.
You are just making excuses for the inexcusable.
Noot had a mental lapse. Can't happen. Period. He should have been removed or reprimanded or fined. Doubt any of the latter happened either. Marmol is no leader. He is a unqualified, wanna be bro, pseudo-manager.

Cards4life, you make sensible statements. That doesn't fit into 1964's "What If" fantasy world. See in 1964's alternate reality, Nootbaar was the star of the game. The Cardinals really lost because the DH Walker somehow dropped the ball and Pallante gave up a single.

Thx Juan.
I know. I have reread his posts several times and you can't make this stuff up. He actually tried to say Noot saved a run.om that play. I mean, WHAT PLANET AM I LIVING ON??????? This world is in sad shape my friend.

It is very strange that people can have takes that are undeniably wrong but continue to argue them. I know the dude is stubborn, but I laughed out loud when he claimed Nootbaar SAVED a run. Wow.

Don't get me started, lol. That is just another example and microcosm of our society these days. People can and will made up lunacy as FACT and you cannot convince them otherwise. Again, I often wonder what planet I am on?!?

I never stated any thing as fact. That’s where “what if” scenario comes into play.

I've got a what if for you. What if Nootbaar were ever as good as he was hyped up to be?

His super fans insisted that heel surgery would allow us to see the real Nootbaar. They were right in a way.

I have another what if. What if he was as bad as people make out?
Where are all the people that wanted to cut Walker?

What if he didn't have heel surgery? Then he wouldn't have been on the field and wouldn't have caught that ball. Then he wouldn't have thought there were 2 outs. Then he wouldn't have panicked and missed the cutoff man. Then we wouldn't be attacking the Noot. It is basically the surgeon's fault we lost yesterday. We should be thanking Noot for even getting to that ball.

[Cardinals1964]

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Let’s play “what if” and the blame game.
Granted Noot made a mental error. We all agree on that.
But what if Walker was out there? He might not catch that ball.
One can argue that Noot saved a double and the run would have scored anyway. So he actually saved the run because the next guy up got hit and that would’ve scored the guy that just hit the pretend double.

Then JJ put him back on top two to one with the home run.
I could blame Pallante for walking the batter that eventually scored to tie again.
I could blame Soriano for giving up that run that tied the game.
I could blame numerous players for not hitting with runners and scoring position. The last I looked, they were one for nine. I don’t know what they ended up with.

That wasn't a hard catch, guy!

I could see Walker missing it, Guy!!
That’s why it’s called “what if”.

Walker catches that ball. Not a problem.
You are just making excuses for the inexcusable.
Noot had a mental lapse. Can't happen. Period. He should have been removed or reprimanded or fined. Doubt any of the latter happened either. Marmol is no leader. He is a unqualified, wanna be bro, pseudo-manager.

Cards4life, you make sensible statements. That doesn't fit into 1964's "What If" fantasy world. See in 1964's alternate reality, Nootbaar was the star of the game. The Cardinals really lost because the DH Walker somehow dropped the ball and Pallante gave up a single.

Thx Juan.
I know. I have reread his posts several times and you can't make this stuff up. He actually tried to say Noot saved a run.om that play. I mean, WHAT PLANET AM I LIVING ON??????? This world is in sad shape my friend.

It is very strange that people can have takes that are undeniably wrong but continue to argue them. I know the dude is stubborn, but I laughed out loud when he claimed Nootbaar SAVED a run. Wow.

Don't get me started, lol. That is just another example and microcosm of our society these days. People can and will made up lunacy as FACT and you cannot convince them otherwise. Again, I often wonder what planet I am on?!?

I never stated any thing as fact. That’s where “what if” scenario comes into play.

I've got a what if for you. What if Nootbaar were ever as good as he was hyped up to be?

His super fans insisted that heel surgery would allow us to see the real Nootbaar. They were right in a way.

I have another what if. What if he was as bad as people make out?
Where are all the people that wanted to cut Walker?

What if he didn't have heel surgery? Then he wouldn't have been on the field and wouldn't have caught that ball. Then he wouldn't have thought there were 2 outs. Then he wouldn't have panicked and missed the cutoff man. Then we wouldn't be attacking the Noot. It is basically the surgeon's fault we lost yesterday. We should be thanking Noot for even getting to that ball.

100% correct what if.

[ShakeyWalton]

I'm not so sure that they do trade Nootbaar. I don't think they'll just give him away to get rid of him. And I don't think that they should just get rid of him to make room for Baez, unless they truly believe that he is ready.

Baez doesn't have to be ready. You let Torres man left field the rest of the season because he's both earned the opportunity and he has a chance to stick around for several more years on the cheap. Nootbaar is what he is; a marginal and oft injured player with no future here.

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Baez doesn't have to be ready. You let Torres man left field the rest of the season because he's both earned the opportunity and he has a chance to stick around for several more years on the cheap. Nootbaar is what he is; a marginal and oft injured player with no future here.

I'm cool with that, but that still doesn't mean that I think they should get rid of Noot just to be rid of him. I'm sure they have a value that they have for him and I hope they hold off trading him until they get as close to that value or more for him.

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Baez doesn't have to be ready. You let Torres man left field the rest of the season because he's both earned the opportunity and he has a chance to stick around for several more years on the cheap. Nootbaar is what he is; a marginal and oft injured player with no future here.

I'm cool with that, but that still doesn't mean that I think they should get rid of Noot just to be rid of him. I'm sure they have a value that they have for him and I hope they hold off trading him until they get as close to that value or more for him.

Counting on him to build trade value is a fool's errand. Bloom should get what he can get for Nootbaar. He is what he is -- with a bat too weak to be a corner OF and a glove too weak to be a CF. He has no future here. Or should have. Keeping Nootbaar around another year would be a vintage Mo move.

[Carp4Cy]

Cost Pallente a run and eventually the game

0-4 with 3ks, swings at ball 4 in dirt to end game after passively begging to walk in previous at bats

He won’t forget his last game at Busch 3

The Last of the Nootbaar

Good riddance Clown Boy

Let’s play “what if” and the blame game.
Granted Noot made a mental error. We all agree on that.
But what if Walker was out there? He might not catch that ball.
One can argue that Noot saved a double and the run would have scored anyway. So he actually saved the run because the next guy up got hit and that would’ve scored the guy that just hit the pretend double.

Then JJ put him back on top two to one with the home run.
I could blame Pallante for walking the batter that eventually scored to tie again.
I could blame Soriano for giving up that run that tied the game.
I could blame numerous players for not hitting with runners and scoring position. The last I looked, they were one for nine. I don’t know what they ended up with.

Yes, he made a mental error. No he shouldn't have made it.

But we can't deny that the trade rumors have any impact on real human players when on the field, especially for the ones who might be traded any minute. They aren't robots. I've seen the same thing in previous companies where moral drops before layoffs, mistakes increase. It is a thing with actual people.

Whether we keep Noot or not, we should all hate this time of year.

[ronnie76]

Cost Pallente a run and eventually the game

0-4 with 3ks, swings at ball 4 in dirt to end game after passively begging to walk in previous at bats

He won’t forget his last game at Busch 3

The Last of the Nootbaar

Good riddance Clown Boy

Let’s play “what if” and the blame game.
Granted Noot made a mental error. We all agree on that.
But what if Walker was out there? He might not catch that ball.
One can argue that Noot saved a double and the run would have scored anyway. So he actually saved the run because the next guy up got hit and that would’ve scored the guy that just hit the pretend double.

Then JJ put him back on top two to one with the home run.
I could blame Pallante for walking the batter that eventually scored to tie again.
I could blame Soriano for giving up that run that tied the game.
I could blame numerous players for not hitting with runners and scoring position. The last I looked, they were one for nine. I don’t know what they ended up with.

Yes, he made a mental error. No he shouldn't have made it.

But we can't deny that the trade rumors have any impact on real human players when on the field, especially for the ones who might be traded any minute. They aren't robots. I've seen the same thing in previous companies where moral drops before layoffs, mistakes increase. It is a thing with actual people.

Whether we keep Noot or not, we should all hate this time of year.

The Stros seem to be interested in him. I checked out curiosity and the Cards are 301-271 when Nootbar plays. That's a .526 clip during down years for the team.