PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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11WSChamps wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:42 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:35 pm I don't mind fire. But I despise the death of sportsmanship in all sports nowadays.
Yes.

Like I said there's a line you shouldn't cross.

I like fire eaters but you can show emotion and not do it at the expense of an opponent.
So both Jack Clark and Ozzue Smith were showing up the Dodgers after hitting game winning, or pitential game winning honers against Niefenfeuer? Jack Clark almost walked to the cardinal dugout, and Ozzie danced all around the bases.
Emotion is good. Its fun.
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RamFan08NY wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:56 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:42 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:35 pm I don't mind fire. But I despise the death of sportsmanship in all sports nowadays.
Yes.

Like I said there's a line you shouldn't cross.

I like fire eaters but you can show emotion and not do it at the expense of an opponent.
So both Jack Clark and Ozzue Smith were showing up the Dodgers after hitting game winning, or pitential game winning honers against Niefenfeuer? Jack Clark almost walked to the cardinal dugout, and Ozzie danced all around the bases.
Emotion is good. Its fun.
NLCS vs minimal July game. Not quite the same.
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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JuanAgosto wrote: 30 Jul 2026 17:02 pm
RamFan08NY wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:56 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:42 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:35 pm I don't mind fire. But I despise the death of sportsmanship in all sports nowadays.
Yes.

Like I said there's a line you shouldn't cross.

I like fire eaters but you can show emotion and not do it at the expense of an opponent.
So both Jack Clark and Ozzue Smith were showing up the Dodgers after hitting game winning, or pitential game winning honers against Niefenfeuer? Jack Clark almost walked to the cardinal dugout, and Ozzie danced all around the bases.
Emotion is good. Its fun.
NLCS vs minimal July game. Not quite the same.
So youre setting a limit of when and when not "sportsmanship" is a thing?

The Cardinals pull that (bleep) every time they get a base hit. The faggy little wing flap after a single to cente field in the 3rd inning? The Cardinals outfielders doing a make believe jump shot at the end of a game? Really? A basketball reference in a baseball game?

Its players having fun, and fans pizzed that irs not their team having the fun. And please dont give me this Bob Gibson nonsense. What would he have done? He would have struck the guy out next time up. He didn't hit batters as much as we'd like to think he did.

I love a player who takes a July game as serious as a September game. I hated Willy Contreras for that when he was a Cub. Hated Will Clark for that when he was a Giant. I LOVED both of them doing that as a Cardinal. A game in May was just as important to them as a game in Octiber. What's wrong with that?
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I don't mind the "reactive emotions" shown at the moment a big hit or big play is made. But if he makes that slow motion trot around the bases in 1968 and Bob Gibson is pitching the next day, he's going to hear a little chin music with the first pitch of the game!
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GuitarManBluesFan wrote: 30 Jul 2026 17:49 pm I don't mind the "reactive emotions" shown at the moment a big hit or big play is made. But if he makes that slow motion trot around the bases in 1968 and Bob Gibson is pitching the next day, he's going to hear a little chin music with the first pitch of the game!
Thank God it's not 1968 and the sport has changed for the better.
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What would Bob Gibson do. Haha
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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:44 pm That is the question......

After that disrespectful bat flip in the 10th and hos overall arrogant behavior the real question is when, not if. Right?

Let's hear your thoughts.
Bat flips are now very commonplace, Rumpletstiltskin.
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Kentucky kid wrote: 30 Jul 2026 18:03 pm What would Bob Gibson do. Haha
I don’t care.

The fact that all these fans get all worked up about unwritten rules and sportsmanship is hilarious. Need to get a life
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Horseradish wrote: 30 Jul 2026 18:09 pm
Kentucky kid wrote: 30 Jul 2026 18:03 pm What would Bob Gibson do. Haha
I don’t care.

The fact that all these fans get all worked up about unwritten rules and sportsmanship is hilarious. Need to get a life
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Nope. Love it. We need more passion and excitement in the game to draw the younger crowd. I know most of you older gents hate it but the game has to adapt.

Notice JJs bomb today, he walked halfway down the line
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PCA has the same effect as a boil on the butt. He is equal to that. No reason to pop a bad pimple like him.
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Kentucky kid wrote: 30 Jul 2026 18:03 pm What would Bob Gibson do. Haha
Bob Gibson ranks 90th in hit batters. Daryl Kile and Al Lieter have hit more than him for crying out loud. Because Gibby was such a fierce competitor , there is a myth that he'd plunk a player ever time he was angry at the player. Gibson pitched a lot of innings. He averaged less that 5 HBP per season. Obrien has hit more than 5 in the past month.
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Adam2 wrote: 30 Jul 2026 18:16 pm Nope. Love it. We need more passion and excitement in the game to draw the younger crowd. I know most of you older gents hate it but the game has to adapt.

Notice JJs bomb today, he walked halfway down the line
But thats ok. Hes a Carfinal and a nice young man.
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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RamFan08NY wrote: 30 Jul 2026 18:20 pm
Adam2 wrote: 30 Jul 2026 18:16 pm Nope. Love it. We need more passion and excitement in the game to draw the younger crowd. I know most of you older gents hate it but the game has to adapt.

Notice JJs bomb today, he walked halfway down the line
But thats ok. Hes a Carfinal and a nice young man.
Haha. Fair
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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There's a very fine line between sportsmanship and performance, and unfortunately that line gets thinner every year.

It's media saturation, I think. TV media, social media, print media, whatever you call podcasts, etc. Everyone's looking for their thing.

I distinctly remember how bad Sosa would get clowned on when he'd do his little homer hop only for the ball to die out on the track. And how everyone would get on to him about how foolish it looked. National, non STL media.

Now take PCA's little performance last night. That's all over the media. Not that we came back and actually won the game. What's the goal here? Likes in Twitter or winning the ballgame? It's tiresome. And yes, I would say the same if the shoes were reversed.

I'm not anti emotional at all. We don't need a bunch of Scott Rolens solemn homer sprints. But there's got to be a line.

I just kinda hate how batflips are considered highlights now.
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MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 30 Jul 2026 18:17 pm PCA has the same effect as a boil on the butt. He is equal to that. No reason to pop a bad pimple like him.
I wish he was a butt boil CF on this team. 151 wRC+ (6th in MLB) and on pace for 10 fWAR at 7.0 fWAR now (1st by far). And 10th in DRS and 1st in OAA.

Meanwhile, the Cards this year have featured Scott and Church.