Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YgnVs_-iTFE

Watching Don Mattingly discuss Bryce Harper's comments is a great example of what a confident, respected manager looks like. He speaks with conviction, isn't defensive, and projects the kind of presence that comes from a lifetime of baseball knowledge, credibility, and accomplishment. Whether you agree with every decision he makes or not, there is no questioning that he commands respect.

To me, that's the polar opposite of what we've seen from Oli Marmol.

Too often, Oli comes across as insecure when he's challenged. You can see it in some of his responses to difficult questions from the media, in the way he discusses conflict, and in his overall demeanor. At times, it feels like he's trying too hard to be one of the guys instead of embracing the role of being the leader of the clubhouse.

There's a big difference between being liked and being respected. The best managers are usually both. They build strong relationships with players, but they also establish clear expectations and hold everyone accountable. Players may not always enjoy those difficult conversations in the moment, but they respect the consistency and leadership behind them.

That's what I believe the Cardinals are missing. The clubhouse doesn't need another friend. It needs a leader whose confidence, baseball acumen, and presence naturally command respect, while still earning the trust and support of the players.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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All thoughts on Oli aside, I love the way Mattingly handled that.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Basil Shabazz wrote: 30 Jul 2026 08:39 am https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YgnVs_-iTFE

Watching Don Mattingly discuss Bryce Harper's comments is a great example of what a confident, respected manager looks like. He speaks with conviction, isn't defensive, and projects the kind of presence that comes from a lifetime of baseball knowledge, credibility, and accomplishment. Whether you agree with every decision he makes or not, there is no questioning that he commands respect.

To me, that's the polar opposite of what we've seen from Oli Marmol.

Too often, Oli comes across as insecure when he's challenged. You can see it in some of his responses to difficult questions from the media, in the way he discusses conflict, and in his overall demeanor. At times, it feels like he's trying too hard to be one of the guys instead of embracing the role of being the leader of the clubhouse.

There's a big difference between being liked and being respected. The best managers are usually both. They build strong relationships with players, but they also establish clear expectations and hold everyone accountable. Players may not always enjoy those difficult conversations in the moment, but they respect the consistency and leadership behind them.

That's what I believe the Cardinals are missing. The clubhouse doesn't need another friend. It needs a leader whose confidence, baseball acumen, and presence naturally command respect, while still earning the trust and support of the players.
Good write. I agree on Marmol, but apparently he isn't going anywhere. Rock always opines that Oli is a placeholder until there is a new labor agreement and the "competitive window" opens for the team. We shall see. I seriously doubt Marmol is going anywhere until his contract is up, so we all have to live with him.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Seems like a nothing burger to me.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Basil Shabazz wrote: 30 Jul 2026 08:39 am https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YgnVs_-iTFE

Watching Don Mattingly discuss Bryce Harper's comments is a great example of what a confident, respected manager looks like. He speaks with conviction, isn't defensive, and projects the kind of presence that comes from a lifetime of baseball knowledge, credibility, and accomplishment. Whether you agree with every decision he makes or not, there is no questioning that he commands respect.

To me, that's the polar opposite of what we've seen from Oli Marmol.

Too often, Oli comes across as insecure when he's challenged. You can see it in some of his responses to difficult questions from the media, in the way he discusses conflict, and in his overall demeanor. At times, it feels like he's trying too hard to be one of the guys instead of embracing the role of being the leader of the clubhouse.

There's a big difference between being liked and being respected. The best managers are usually both. They build strong relationships with players, but they also establish clear expectations and hold everyone accountable. Players may not always enjoy those difficult conversations in the moment, but they respect the consistency and leadership behind them.

That's what I believe the Cardinals are missing. The clubhouse doesn't need another friend. It needs a leader whose confidence, baseball acumen, and presence naturally command respect, while still earning the trust and support of the players.
I've been trying to point this out for over two years too basil.

Oli is what he is.....................a minor league Manager w/a minor league Manager's mentality.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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11WSChamps wrote: 30 Jul 2026 09:03 am Seems like a nothing burger to me.
Manager defends front office.

Yeah, big deal.i agree w you.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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I’ll bet Bryce doesn’t like the way he handled it lol he kind of took shots at him. If a cardinals player said the team needs help and oli said that player is the only one who thinks that he doesn’t know where the organization is and he’s trying to spend other people’s money there would be calls for olis head for taking shots at a player who just wants the team improved. I thought mattingly handled it pretty poorly
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Big whoop :lol:
I guess Donny ballgame likes his job.
If Oli would have said that this forum would turn it into that he threw Harper under the bus.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Basil Shabazz wrote: 30 Jul 2026 08:39 am https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YgnVs_-iTFE

Watching Don Mattingly discuss Bryce Harper's comments is a great example of what a confident, respected manager looks like. He speaks with conviction, isn't defensive, and projects the kind of presence that comes from a lifetime of baseball knowledge, credibility, and accomplishment. Whether you agree with every decision he makes or not, there is no questioning that he commands respect.

To me, that's the polar opposite of what we've seen from Oli Marmol.

Too often, Oli comes across as insecure when he's challenged. You can see it in some of his responses to difficult questions from the media, in the way he discusses conflict, and in his overall demeanor. At times, it feels like he's trying too hard to be one of the guys instead of embracing the role of being the leader of the clubhouse.

There's a big difference between being liked and being respected. The best managers are usually both. They build strong relationships with players, but they also establish clear expectations and hold everyone accountable. Players may not always enjoy those difficult conversations in the moment, but they respect the consistency and leadership behind them.

That's what I believe the Cardinals are missing. The clubhouse doesn't need another friend. It needs a leader whose confidence, baseball acumen, and presence naturally command respect, while still earning the trust and support of the players.
One of the things that turned me off on oli was how he would become arrogant and condescending when questioned. Sign of being in over your head.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 30 Jul 2026 11:05 am I’ll bet Bryce doesn’t like the way he handled it lol he kind of took shots at him. If a cardinals player said the team needs help and oli said that player is the only one who thinks that he doesn’t know where the organization is and he’s trying to spend other people’s money there would be calls for olis head
I think Bryce is obviously just mad about Wetherholts contract.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Harper's comments don't even seem that extreme. He's basically just saying yeah the possibility of getting new players at the deadline can be exciting. The clip doesn't even show what the question was that he's answering.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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rockondlouie wrote: 30 Jul 2026 10:33 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 30 Jul 2026 08:39 am https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YgnVs_-iTFE

Watching Don Mattingly discuss Bryce Harper's comments is a great example of what a confident, respected manager looks like. He speaks with conviction, isn't defensive, and projects the kind of presence that comes from a lifetime of baseball knowledge, credibility, and accomplishment. Whether you agree with every decision he makes or not, there is no questioning that he commands respect.

To me, that's the polar opposite of what we've seen from Oli Marmol.

Too often, Oli comes across as insecure when he's challenged. You can see it in some of his responses to difficult questions from the media, in the way he discusses conflict, and in his overall demeanor. At times, it feels like he's trying too hard to be one of the guys instead of embracing the role of being the leader of the clubhouse.

There's a big difference between being liked and being respected. The best managers are usually both. They build strong relationships with players, but they also establish clear expectations and hold everyone accountable. Players may not always enjoy those difficult conversations in the moment, but they respect the consistency and leadership behind them.

That's what I believe the Cardinals are missing. The clubhouse doesn't need another friend. It needs a leader whose confidence, baseball acumen, and presence naturally command respect, while still earning the trust and support of the players.
I've been trying to point this out for over two years too basil.

Oli is what he is.....................a minor league Manager w/a minor league Manager's mentality.
That's generous, at best.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Don Mattingly has always been a sh*tty manager.
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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alw80 wrote: 30 Jul 2026 11:45 am Don Mattingly has always been a sh*tty manager.
Agree that’s a good example of why he sucks. All Harper said was anytime you can get reinforcements in it helps and mattingly basically trashed for him then took it upon himself to speak for the team in trashing him. Just poorly handled if oli did that there would be howls for his head
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 30 Jul 2026 11:05 am I’ll bet Bryce doesn’t like the way he handled it lol he kind of took shots at him. If a cardinals player said the team needs help and oli said that player is the only one who thinks that he doesn’t know where the organization is and he’s trying to spend other people’s money there would be calls for olis head for taking shots at a player who just wants the team improved. I thought mattingly handled it pretty poorly

But at the same time if he sides with one player he’s basically leaving 25 others wondering if their manager is joining in with Harper throwing shade at them essentially insinuating they are not good enough and want them off the team.

I get this is the bigs and protecting feelings should be somewhat lower on a managers to do list but that could cause some clubhouse animosity in the heat of a playoff race
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Re: Don Mattingly / Bryce Harper

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Banner29 wrote: 30 Jul 2026 11:53 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 30 Jul 2026 11:05 am I’ll bet Bryce doesn’t like the way he handled it lol he kind of took shots at him. If a cardinals player said the team needs help and oli said that player is the only one who thinks that he doesn’t know where the organization is and he’s trying to spend other people’s money there would be calls for olis head for taking shots at a player who just wants the team improved. I thought mattingly handled it pretty poorly

But at the same time if he sides with one player he’s basically leaving 25 others wondering if their manager is joining in with Harper throwing shade at them essentially insinuating they are not good enough and want them off the team.

I get this is the bigs and protecting feelings should be somewhat lower on a managers to do list but that could cause some clubhouse animosity in the heat of a playoff race
So you think Harper is the only one who doesn’t think the team is perfect and doesnt need any help? lol any player that thinks that is an idiot or lying. And mattingly could have simply said Harper is a super competitive guy and wants the best team possible and left it at that but he took it upon himself to say no other players think that Harper doesn’t know the organization wants to play GM and wants to spend other people’s money just crazy stuff that he came at him like that and trashed him in public