It's laughable how clueless he it is...Futuregm2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:25 amThere shouldn’t be a need to go “off script” for this. Everyone knew the situation. Except apparently you and J. Jones.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:23 amCertainly don’t see Goold posting anything remotely off the “script”. I don’t go looking for it…..usually pops up on my feed. Just as Goold would if he posts.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:17 amYou love yourself some J. JonesGoldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 20:33 pm “Dustin May is through five shutout on 70 pitches and Justin Bruihl is warming in the Cardinals bullpen. I asked Marmol this afternoon if there would be limits on his usage and the answer was "he's our starting pitcher."
Here's the real answer”
J. Jones
Anyone wonder why BP is toast…….
Lots of hugs for D May
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Svansonscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:30 amIt's not. Look up bullpen usage in MLB and tell us where the Cards are ..Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 20:33 pm “Dustin May is through five shutout on 70 pitches and Justin Bruihl is warming in the Cardinals bullpen. I asked Marmol this afternoon if there would be limits on his usage and the answer was "he's our starting pitcher."
Here's the real answer”
J. Jones
Anyone wonder why BP is toast…….
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41G
7.27ERA
1.754WHIP
Stanek
46G
4.35ERA
1.452WHIP
Now why would those firestarters need to be used so much???
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Managers talk about whether pitchers are on pitch counts ALL THE TIME….Futuregm2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:32 amHonestly who really cares? Why does the writer need to know if he’s on a pitch count or anything? He probably wasn’t even on a strict pitch count. That’s all he should say is that he’s the starting pitcher.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:30 amThen why the obtuse response from Marmol? If everyone knows then answer the question. “ YES, May is on a pitch count. “ if everyone knows then whats with FO/manager pretending otherwise. Cute little game…..for who??Futuregm2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:25 amThere shouldn’t be a need to go “off script” for this. Everyone knew the situation. Except apparently you and J. Jones.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:23 amCertainly don’t see Goold posting anything remotely off the “script”. I don’t go looking for it…..usually pops up on my feed. Just as Goold would if he posts.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:17 amYou love yourself some J. JonesGoldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 20:33 pm “Dustin May is through five shutout on 70 pitches and Justin Bruihl is warming in the Cardinals bullpen. I asked Marmol this afternoon if there would be limits on his usage and the answer was "he's our starting pitcher."
Here's the real answer”
J. Jones
Anyone wonder why BP is toast…….
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I guess you haven’t been paying attention at all, but Stanek has a 2.54 ERA and 1.09 WHIP since May 1st over 31 games.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:37 amSvansonscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:30 amIt's not. Look up bullpen usage in MLB and tell us where the Cards are ..Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 20:33 pm “Dustin May is through five shutout on 70 pitches and Justin Bruihl is warming in the Cardinals bullpen. I asked Marmol this afternoon if there would be limits on his usage and the answer was "he's our starting pitcher."
Here's the real answer”
J. Jones
Anyone wonder why BP is toast…….
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41G
7.27ERA
1.754WHIP
Stanek
46G
4.35ERA
1.452WHIP
Now why would those firestarters need to be used so much???
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You made a claim and I asked you for proofGoldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:37 amSvansonscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:30 amIt's not. Look up bullpen usage in MLB and tell us where the Cards are ..Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 20:33 pm “Dustin May is through five shutout on 70 pitches and Justin Bruihl is warming in the Cardinals bullpen. I asked Marmol this afternoon if there would be limits on his usage and the answer was "he's our starting pitcher."
Here's the real answer”
J. Jones
Anyone wonder why BP is toast…….
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41G
7.27ERA
1.754WHIP
Stanek
46G
4.35ERA
1.452WHIP
Now why would those firestarters need to be used so much???
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Re: Lots of hugs for D May
Cards are 16th in the league for reliever innings pitched.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:40 amYou made a claim and I asked you for proofGoldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:37 amSvansonscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:30 amIt's not. Look up bullpen usage in MLB and tell us where the Cards are ..Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 20:33 pm “Dustin May is through five shutout on 70 pitches and Justin Bruihl is warming in the Cardinals bullpen. I asked Marmol this afternoon if there would be limits on his usage and the answer was "he's our starting pitcher."
Here's the real answer”
J. Jones
Anyone wonder why BP is toast…….
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41G
7.27ERA
1.754WHIP
Stanek
46G
4.35ERA
1.452WHIP
Now why would those firestarters need to be used so much???
https://www.mlb.com/stats/team/pitching ... d?split=rp
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Hey Satch....LOLimetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:27 amYou are like a broken record. Your schtick is as old as Shady’s.Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 21:04 pm I will love the day when the St. Louis Cardinals have one goal……to WIN MLB games
For many years now it’s always been some other agenda.
Legacy Tours
Contracts Must Play
Finding Out If Youths Can Play
Showcasing Talent For Other Teams
Let me know if we ever get back to playing for Pennants and World Series.
Will make you a deal. When we get back to playing for a pennant or World Series, we will send you a note-you don’t have to watch or read this until then.
I thought of a Rip Van Winkle analogy for him yesterday.
Take a snooze until the team wins.
Can you imagine having to deal with this whining putz in REAL LIFE???
We’re lucky in that regard.
I do love his emojis though!!
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I told him to get lost.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:01 amI'm certain I can not explain it to your satisfaction.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 08:55 am‘23Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 08:50 am There is a huge difference between the person that builds the store and the person who shops at the store. The consumer goes to the store and wants what they want, and they want it now. The person that builds the store puts thought into where, how large, how much to spend, makes arrangements with suppliers, and a thousand other things. Lots of time, discipline, and process. We have both on the board here- it's not hard to tell who is who.
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So fans have been shopping for going on 5yrs spending money and walking out of store with nothing…..in your mind how long should that continue?
And the sole reason is the OWNER refuses to spend money to stock the store with what the consumer requires. That’s it
Those stores go out of business
I admire your effort to “educate” but you’d have better luck talking to your refrigerator. LOL
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Cuse could you explain why YOU and Paige and others enjoy losing so much….and go to great lengths to defend, explain, cheer the losing now and into the future? ThanksCusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:48 amHey Satch....LOLimetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:27 amYou are like a broken record. Your schtick is as old as Shady’s.Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 21:04 pm I will love the day when the St. Louis Cardinals have one goal……to WIN MLB games
For many years now it’s always been some other agenda.
Legacy Tours
Contracts Must Play
Finding Out If Youths Can Play
Showcasing Talent For Other Teams
Let me know if we ever get back to playing for Pennants and World Series.
Will make you a deal. When we get back to playing for a pennant or World Series, we will send you a note-you don’t have to watch or read this until then.
I thought of a Rip Van Winkle analogy for him yesterday.
Take a snooze until the team wins.
Can you imagine having to deal with this whining putz in REAL LIFE???
We’re lucky in that regard.
I do love his emojis though!!
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Educate me on why losing is good and the cheap owner who allows it should receive no blowback??? Again why do y’all enjoy losing and defend it? Explain…..Cusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:50 amI told him to get lost.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:01 amI'm certain I can not explain it to your satisfaction.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 08:55 am‘23Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 08:50 am There is a huge difference between the person that builds the store and the person who shops at the store. The consumer goes to the store and wants what they want, and they want it now. The person that builds the store puts thought into where, how large, how much to spend, makes arrangements with suppliers, and a thousand other things. Lots of time, discipline, and process. We have both on the board here- it's not hard to tell who is who.
71-91
‘24
83-79
‘25
78-84
‘26
54-54
‘27
Same as above.
So fans have been shopping for going on 5yrs spending money and walking out of store with nothing…..in your mind how long should that continue?
And the sole reason is the OWNER refuses to spend money to stock the store with what the consumer requires. That’s it
Those stores go out of business
I admire your effort to “educate” but you’d have better luck talking to your refrigerator. LOL
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This is supposed to be good when you have like 1 or 2 reliable BP arms??? Context Scouty contextscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:47 amCards are 16th in the league for reliever innings pitched.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:40 amYou made a claim and I asked you for proofGoldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:37 amSvansonscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:30 amIt's not. Look up bullpen usage in MLB and tell us where the Cards are ..Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 20:33 pm “Dustin May is through five shutout on 70 pitches and Justin Bruihl is warming in the Cardinals bullpen. I asked Marmol this afternoon if there would be limits on his usage and the answer was "he's our starting pitcher."
Here's the real answer”
J. Jones
Anyone wonder why BP is toast…….
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41G
7.27ERA
1.754WHIP
Stanek
46G
4.35ERA
1.452WHIP
Now why would those firestarters need to be used so much???![]()
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Not “defending” anyone:Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:54 amCuse could you explain why YOU and Paige and others enjoy losing so much….and go to great lengths to defend, explain, cheer the losing now and into the future? ThanksCusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:48 amHey Satch....LOLimetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:27 amYou are like a broken record. Your schtick is as old as Shady’s.Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 21:04 pm I will love the day when the St. Louis Cardinals have one goal……to WIN MLB games
For many years now it’s always been some other agenda.
Legacy Tours
Contracts Must Play
Finding Out If Youths Can Play
Showcasing Talent For Other Teams
Let me know if we ever get back to playing for Pennants and World Series.
Will make you a deal. When we get back to playing for a pennant or World Series, we will send you a note-you don’t have to watch or read this until then.
I thought of a Rip Van Winkle analogy for him yesterday.
Take a snooze until the team wins.
Can you imagine having to deal with this whining putz in REAL LIFE???
We’re lucky in that regard.
I do love his emojis though!!
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After years of success MO was clearly not getting the job done!
Change was needed and they made changes!
They plan to build through the Farm System.
That does NOT happen in a FEW MONTHS genius!
For the record...I checked MLB Minor League System Rankings yesterday.
The three I pulled up had the Cards at #4, #8, and #11.
That is a significant improvement and heading in the right direction!
Again....read my lips...this is not an overnight process.
But...after having dealt off Gray/Arenado/WC/Donovan they actually are trending toward having a BETTER record this year than LAST!
Is that not progress?????
Like others have posted to you at LENGTH:
You are a whining crybaby with zero guts or backbone!
You are entitled to your opinion and if you HATE the organization you are entitled to that opinion!
But....a number of us DON’T!
There is my answer. I’m sure you will come with some whining crybaby (bleep) and a bunch of emojis!
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Re: Lots of hugs for D May
23Cusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 10:06 amNot “defending” anyone:Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:54 amCuse could you explain why YOU and Paige and others enjoy losing so much….and go to great lengths to defend, explain, cheer the losing now and into the future? ThanksCusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:48 amHey Satch....LOLimetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:27 amYou are like a broken record. Your schtick is as old as Shady’s.Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 21:04 pm I will love the day when the St. Louis Cardinals have one goal……to WIN MLB games
For many years now it’s always been some other agenda.
Legacy Tours
Contracts Must Play
Finding Out If Youths Can Play
Showcasing Talent For Other Teams
Let me know if we ever get back to playing for Pennants and World Series.
Will make you a deal. When we get back to playing for a pennant or World Series, we will send you a note-you don’t have to watch or read this until then.
I thought of a Rip Van Winkle analogy for him yesterday.
Take a snooze until the team wins.
Can you imagine having to deal with this whining putz in REAL LIFE???
We’re lucky in that regard.
I do love his emojis though!!
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After years of success MO was clearly not getting the job done!
Change was needed and they made changes!
They plan to build through the Farm System.
That does NOT happen in a FEW MONTHS genius!
For the record...I checked MLB Minor League System Rankings yesterday.
The three I pulled up had the Cards at #4, #8, and #11.
That is a significant improvement and heading in the right direction!
Again....read my lips...this is not an overnight process.
But...after having dealt off Gray/Arenado/WC/Donovan they actually are trending toward having a BETTER record this year than LAST!
Is that not progress?????
Like others have posted to you at LENGTH:
You are a whining crybaby with zero guts or backbone!
You are entitled to your opinion and if you HATE the organization you are entitled to that opinion!
But....a number of us DON’T!
There is my answer. I’m sure you will come with some whining crybaby (bleep) and a bunch of emojis!
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71-91
‘24
83-79
‘25
78-84
‘26
54-54
‘27
Same as above.
That’s more than enough patience. The MLB Team could have been out of this malaise this season if BDW spent some $$. Payroll is 94mil
And as I’ve stated….fixing minor leagues has nothing to do with spending $$ on MLB payroll.
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How does tye baez for pca trade have to do with high payroll?Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:03 amHow doesn’t all your posts referencing the Cubs have to do with payroll.??? Assume you’re attempting to compare and emulate what they did???ecleme22 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 08:57 amWhat did my post have to do w payrollGoldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 08:45 amThe Cubs payroll was 225mil last season and 233mil this season. Great….lets be like the Cubs!!!!ecleme22 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 08:36 amBecause Baez for PCA was definitely a product of a large payroll.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 08:29 amEC, I’m at a loss with your constant reference to the Cubsecleme22 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 07:04 amI know, right? What a stupid plan. Reminds me when the moron cubs traded Baez for that nobody PCA…stlbirdlover wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 02:34 amI'm with you all the way. Most of these SOBs on here are getting all excited about trading proven players for Prospects, guys who never played MLB and might not be able to. It effing pizzes me off!Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 21:04 pm I will love the day when the St. Louis Cardinals have one goal……to WIN MLB games
For many years now it’s always been some other agenda.
Legacy Tours
Contracts Must Play
Finding Out If Youths Can Play
Showcasing Talent For Other Teams
Let me know if we ever get back to playing for Pennants and World Series.![]()
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Their payrolls during the 4 year run 2015-2018 were in the 3-6range in MLB and went higher in 2019 until ANOTHER REBUILD where they were bad
Then as they won again in 2025-‘26 their payrolls jumped to 225mil and up
So WTH does that have to do with the Current Cards situation??
You expect BDW to increase to a top 5 payroll and that’s when they start winning???? Great, start spending now>>>>into offseason>>>2027
every timeframe of Cubs winning was because they spent $$$$$, not creating a team of their own cheap prospects.
Read my post again…
The only time they won they had top 5 payroll. Not because they went cheap with a club full of youngsters. So what is your point?
They’ve been winning the last 2 years with 225mil and 233mil payrolls. Great….I’m in…..when does BDW start spending? They have a high$$$ manager.
When do we hire one of those??
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Re: Lots of hugs for D May
Its funny that he cried and whined for years about mos sustained mediocrity strategy of just squeak in and pray for miracles then as soon as mo leaves he now does a .180 and loves the sustained mediocrity and pray foe miracles approach. But thats what he does. Hated the signing of contreras and gray whined and cried they sucked and were overpaid whined and cried for two years how they sucked and were overpaid not worth their contracts as soon as they were traded he said theyre great stupid to trade them and theyre worth their contracts. Same with may and stanek hated their signings said they sucked after mays first two starts when he got bashed he was posting about blooms 12 million dollar man who sucks mocked stanek too now theyre about to be traded and now suddenly theyre good and he whines and cries they are going to be traded. He cried and whined the cardinals are cheap and aren’t going to keep players and will trade them when arbitration eligible cards sign jj to a 100 million contract proving that false and now he whines and cries it was dumb to sign jj to an extension because it hurt the teams feelings lolCusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 10:06 amNot “defending” anyone:Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:54 amCuse could you explain why YOU and Paige and others enjoy losing so much….and go to great lengths to defend, explain, cheer the losing now and into the future? ThanksCusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:48 amHey Satch....LOLimetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026 09:27 amYou are like a broken record. Your schtick is as old as Shady’s.Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 21:04 pm I will love the day when the St. Louis Cardinals have one goal……to WIN MLB games
For many years now it’s always been some other agenda.
Legacy Tours
Contracts Must Play
Finding Out If Youths Can Play
Showcasing Talent For Other Teams
Let me know if we ever get back to playing for Pennants and World Series.
Will make you a deal. When we get back to playing for a pennant or World Series, we will send you a note-you don’t have to watch or read this until then.
I thought of a Rip Van Winkle analogy for him yesterday.
Take a snooze until the team wins.
Can you imagine having to deal with this whining putz in REAL LIFE???
We’re lucky in that regard.
I do love his emojis though!!
![]()
After years of success MO was clearly not getting the job done!
Change was needed and they made changes!
They plan to build through the Farm System.
That does NOT happen in a FEW MONTHS genius!
For the record...I checked MLB Minor League System Rankings yesterday.
The three I pulled up had the Cards at #4, #8, and #11.
That is a significant improvement and heading in the right direction!
Again....read my lips...this is not an overnight process.
But...after having dealt off Gray/Arenado/WC/Donovan they actually are trending toward having a BETTER record this year than LAST!
Is that not progress?????
Like others have posted to you at LENGTH:
You are a whining crybaby with zero guts or backbone!
You are entitled to your opinion and if you HATE the organization you are entitled to that opinion!
But....a number of us DON’T!
There is my answer. I’m sure you will come with some whining crybaby (bleep) and a bunch of emojis!
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Re: Lots of hugs for D May
To be fair to Jeff Jones, he knew the situation as well. His job as a journalist is to ask questions and get that information out to fans. Some fans are much dumber than others, however, and require writers to hold their hand and spell everything out for them.