The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:09 pm I am not interested in trading young pitching talent.
McGreavy has solid potential, and unlike you guys, I am not intersted in giving up on him.
And I'm not trading the best hitter on the team, and at the moment, that is not JW.
Who is the best hitter on the team if it’s not JW?

Between Burly and JW

AVG? Burly by 2 points .285 to .283
OBP? Push
SLG? Walker
OPS? Walker
OPS+? Walker
HR? Walker
RBI? Walker
Runs? Walker
SB? Walker
WOBA? Walker
WRC+? Walker
WAR? Walker

Walker hasn’t homered in 15 games, yes. Burly hasn’t homered in 16 games.
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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:09 pm I am not interested in trading young pitching talent.
McGreavy has solid potential, and unlike you guys, I am not intersted in giving up on him.
And I'm not trading the best hitter on the team, and at the moment, that is not JW.
+1

I'm not interested in trading McG or K. Leahy.

I wouldn't mind seeing A. Pallante offered though.

Nor am I on the "trade I. Herrera" bandwagon either. :x
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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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Futuregm2 wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:15 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:09 pm I am not interested in trading young pitching talent.
McGreavy has solid potential, and unlike you guys, I am not intersted in giving up on him.
And I'm not trading the best hitter on the team, and at the moment, that is not JW.
Who is the best hitter on the team if it’s not JW?

Between Burly and JW

AVG? Burly by 2 points .285 to .283
OBP? Push
SLG? Walker
OPS? Walker
OPS+? Walker
HR? Walker
RBI? Walker
Runs? Walker
SB? Walker
WOBA? Walker
WRC+? Walker
WAR? Walker

Walker hasn’t homered in 15 games, yes. Burly hasn’t homered in 16 games.
A: Post ASG, AB is hitting .375 with a .405 OBP and an OPS of .880
JW is hitting .184 with a .262 OBP and an OPS of .525

You are leaning on JW first half numbers. He has since regressed to his long-term mean. Will he come out of it?
Good question.
Can we afford to find out?
Another good question.
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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:22 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:15 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:09 pm I am not interested in trading young pitching talent.
McGreavy has solid potential, and unlike you guys, I am not intersted in giving up on him.
And I'm not trading the best hitter on the team, and at the moment, that is not JW.
Who is the best hitter on the team if it’s not JW?

Between Burly and JW

AVG? Burly by 2 points .285 to .283
OBP? Push
SLG? Walker
OPS? Walker
OPS+? Walker
HR? Walker
RBI? Walker
Runs? Walker
SB? Walker
WOBA? Walker
WRC+? Walker
WAR? Walker

Walker hasn’t homered in 15 games, yes. Burly hasn’t homered in 16 games.
A: Post ASG, AB is hitting .375 with a .405 OBP and an OPS of .880
JW is hitting .184 with a .262 OBP and an OPS of .525

You are leaning on JW first half numbers. He has since regressed to his long-term mean. Will he come out of it?
Good question.
Can we afford to find out?
Another good question.
So you’re determining that one is worth listening to offers and the other is not based off 12 games? That is CT in a nutshell. You’ve got the attention span of Shady 8O
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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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Futuregm2 wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:25 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:22 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:15 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:09 pm I am not interested in trading young pitching talent.
McGreavy has solid potential, and unlike you guys, I am not intersted in giving up on him.
And I'm not trading the best hitter on the team, and at the moment, that is not JW.
Who is the best hitter on the team if it’s not JW?

Between Burly and JW

AVG? Burly by 2 points .285 to .283
OBP? Push
SLG? Walker
OPS? Walker
OPS+? Walker
HR? Walker
RBI? Walker
Runs? Walker
SB? Walker
WOBA? Walker
WRC+? Walker
WAR? Walker

Walker hasn’t homered in 15 games, yes. Burly hasn’t homered in 16 games.
A: Post ASG, AB is hitting .375 with a .405 OBP and an OPS of .880
JW is hitting .184 with a .262 OBP and an OPS of .525

You are leaning on JW first half numbers. He has since regressed to his long-term mean. Will he come out of it?
Good question.
Can we afford to find out?
Another good question.
So you’re determining that one is worth listening to offers and the other is not based off 12 games? That is CT in a nutshell. You’ve got the attention span of Shady 8O
Insulting.
I have 60+ years of Cardinal perspective.
I am not basing it off 12 games, I am basing it on his three-year performance and difficulty breaking out of slumps.
I am not suggesting we sell Walker, but we should listen.
The history of the past decades is littered with Fabrege eggs we kept well past their use by date.
Is JW one of them? We shall see.
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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:37 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:25 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:22 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:15 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:09 pm I am not interested in trading young pitching talent.
McGreavy has solid potential, and unlike you guys, I am not intersted in giving up on him.
And I'm not trading the best hitter on the team, and at the moment, that is not JW.
Who is the best hitter on the team if it’s not JW?

Between Burly and JW

AVG? Burly by 2 points .285 to .283
OBP? Push
SLG? Walker
OPS? Walker
OPS+? Walker
HR? Walker
RBI? Walker
Runs? Walker
SB? Walker
WOBA? Walker
WRC+? Walker
WAR? Walker

Walker hasn’t homered in 15 games, yes. Burly hasn’t homered in 16 games.
A: Post ASG, AB is hitting .375 with a .405 OBP and an OPS of .880
JW is hitting .184 with a .262 OBP and an OPS of .525

You are leaning on JW first half numbers. He has since regressed to his long-term mean. Will he come out of it?
Good question.
Can we afford to find out?
Another good question.
So you’re determining that one is worth listening to offers and the other is not based off 12 games? That is CT in a nutshell. You’ve got the attention span of Shady 8O
Insulting.
I have 60+ years of Cardinal perspective.
I am not basing it off 12 games, I am basing it on his three-year performance and difficulty breaking out of slumps.
I am not suggesting we sell Walker, but we should listen.
The history of the past decades is littered with Fabrege eggs we kept well past their use by date.
Is JW one of them? We shall see.
Well his 3 year history was before the new front office really took control and before his breakout. And he’s had slumps this year, he had a 13 game slump in June (.512 OPS June 14-June 30) worse than the post AS break (.557 OPS) slump and he came out of that with flying colors (1.116 OPS from July 1st-July 12). Hitters go through streaks, it happens to even the best hitters.

13 games from April 14-29: .560 OPS 0 HR
10 games from May 25-June 5: .618 OPS 0 HR

Both “slumps” he came out of fine. Along with the other one. And this one will probably be similar.
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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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Futuregm2 wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:15 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:09 pm I am not interested in trading young pitching talent.
McGreavy has solid potential, and unlike you guys, I am not intersted in giving up on him.
And I'm not trading the best hitter on the team, and at the moment, that is not JW.
Who is the best hitter on the team if it’s not JW?

Between Burly and JW

AVG? Burly by 2 points .285 to .283
OBP? Push
SLG? Walker
OPS? Walker
OPS+? Walker
HR? Walker
RBI? Walker
Runs? Walker
SB? Walker
WOBA? Walker
WRC+? Walker
WAR? Walker

Walker hasn’t homered in 15 games, yes. Burly hasn’t homered in 16 games.
Facts are so inconvenient sometimes.
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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:09 pm I am not interested in trading young pitching talent.
McGreavy has solid potential, and unlike you guys, I am not intersted in giving up on him.
And I'm not trading the best hitter on the team, and at the moment, that is not JW.
McGreevy's stuff plays as about a No. 4 on a contender. That has value, but more value than Walker? And by what measure is Burly a better hitter than Walker?
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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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Futuregm2 wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:25 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:22 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:15 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 29 Jul 2026 12:09 pm I am not interested in trading young pitching talent.
McGreavy has solid potential, and unlike you guys, I am not intersted in giving up on him.
And I'm not trading the best hitter on the team, and at the moment, that is not JW.
Who is the best hitter on the team if it’s not JW?

Between Burly and JW

AVG? Burly by 2 points .285 to .283
OBP? Push
SLG? Walker
OPS? Walker
OPS+? Walker
HR? Walker
RBI? Walker
Runs? Walker
SB? Walker
WOBA? Walker
WRC+? Walker
WAR? Walker

Walker hasn’t homered in 15 games, yes. Burly hasn’t homered in 16 games.
A: Post ASG, AB is hitting .375 with a .405 OBP and an OPS of .880
JW is hitting .184 with a .262 OBP and an OPS of .525

You are leaning on JW first half numbers. He has since regressed to his long-term mean. Will he come out of it?
Good question.
Can we afford to find out?
Another good question.
So you’re determining that one is worth listening to offers and the other is not based off 12 games? That is CT in a nutshell. You’ve got the attention span of Shady 8O
Yeah, recency bias is a major thing on CT.
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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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I think there is a decent chance he could be part of a major trade.
So is the FO considering offers, or hanging up?

AI:
Jordan Walker’s fantasy trade value sits at 15.75 (ranking 2nd among right fielders and 30th overall) on FantasySP, boosted significantly by a breakout 2026 season where he won the Home Run Derby.
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Re: The elephant in the room: What would Walker bring in trade?

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imetsatchelpaige wrote: 02 Aug 2026 14:17 pm I think there is a decent chance he could be part of a major trade.
So is the FO considering offers, or hanging up?

AI:
Jordan Walker’s fantasy trade value sits at 15.75 (ranking 2nd among right fielders and 30th overall) on FantasySP, boosted significantly by a breakout 2026 season where he won the Home Run Derby.
Lol. They won't trade him before tomorrow's trade deadline.