timoevans wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 09:54 am
I read where he is unhappy with the direction the club is going? If he would do better than his 240 BA that might help the team rather than running down the management. Looks like a trade to Tampa or Seattle is in his future? Oakland maybe.......
Why aren't players allowed to be frustrated when fans are? He is just a human being like everyone else. At 244 that is the league average and with his elite defense at short stop he is worthy of being a starter. Not everyone is an all star. I would also say that not a lot of players are studs on offense and defense.
His double play partner is hitting .250 with 4 more RBI and got a 10yr/100’smil contract. Perhaps that has something to do with it…….
Bingo!
So you’re saying Winn is so dumb so utterly clueless that he thinks he should get more than a guy who has 11 more home runs 26 more runs and has a .350 obp compared to winns .319 and an ops of .742 compared to winns .643 and Winn has regressed at the plate and in the field from last year to this year? You think Winn is that dumb to think he deserves it because he has 4 more RBI than Winn and that’s only because oli is dumb enough to hit him 4-6 every game allowing all the RBI opportunities?I don’t think he’s that dumb
Winn ‘24……
did he get a $100mil contract offer then??? I’m sure a 23yrold kid wouldn’t be jealous at all……
15HR 57RBI. 11 .267 .314 .416 .730
5.1WAR
Oz, you FUNNY…….You think players don’t think about what their peers are making…….you think young competitive athletes don’t mind losing for YEARS and YEARS into the future so the owner can pocket 80mil that he used to spend on payroll.
timoevans wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 09:54 am
I read where he is unhappy with the direction the club is going? If he would do better than his 240 BA that might help the team rather than running down the management. Looks like a trade to Tampa or Seattle is in his future? Oakland maybe.......
Why aren't players allowed to be frustrated when fans are? He is just a human being like everyone else. At 244 that is the league average and with his elite defense at short stop he is worthy of being a starter. Not everyone is an all star. I would also say that not a lot of players are studs on offense and defense.
His double play partner is hitting .250 with 4 more RBI and got a 10yr/100’smil contract. Perhaps that has something to do with it…….
Bingo!
So you’re saying Winn is so dumb so utterly clueless that he thinks he should get more than a guy who has 11 more home runs 26 more runs and has a .350 obp compared to winns .319 and an ops of .742 compared to winns .643 and Winn has regressed at the plate and in the field from last year to this year? You think Winn is that dumb to think he deserves it because he has 4 more RBI than Winn and that’s only because oli is dumb enough to hit him 4-6 every game allowing all the RBI opportunities?I don’t think he’s that dumb
You dont know?
Winn voicing his frustration around team play and the impending sell off at the deadline is obviously coded language around his contract sutuation.
timoevans wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 09:54 am
I read where he is unhappy with the direction the club is going? If he would do better than his 240 BA that might help the team rather than running down the management. Looks like a trade to Tampa or Seattle is in his future? Oakland maybe.......
Why aren't players allowed to be frustrated when fans are? He is just a human being like everyone else. At 244 that is the league average and with his elite defense at short stop he is worthy of being a starter. Not everyone is an all star. I would also say that not a lot of players are studs on offense and defense.
His double play partner is hitting .250 with 4 more RBI and got a 10yr/100’smil contract. Perhaps that has something to do with it…….
Bingo!
So you’re saying Winn is so dumb so utterly clueless that he thinks he should get more than a guy who has 11 more home runs 26 more runs and has a .350 obp compared to winns .319 and an ops of .742 compared to winns .643 and Winn has regressed at the plate and in the field from last year to this year? You think Winn is that dumb to think he deserves it because he has 4 more RBI than Winn and that’s only because oli is dumb enough to hit him 4-6 every game allowing all the RBI opportunities?I don’t think he’s that dumb
You dont know?
Winn voicing his frustration around team play and the impending sell off at the deadline is obviously coded language around his contract sutuation.
Duh!
You guys are some of the most clueless dolts I’ve been in contact with ……its always about the $$$
timoevans wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 09:54 am
I read where he is unhappy with the direction the club is going? If he would do better than his 240 BA that might help the team rather than running down the management. Looks like a trade to Tampa or Seattle is in his future? Oakland maybe.......
Why aren't players allowed to be frustrated when fans are? He is just a human being like everyone else. At 244 that is the league average and with his elite defense at short stop he is worthy of being a starter. Not everyone is an all star. I would also say that not a lot of players are studs on offense and defense.
His double play partner is hitting .250 with 4 more RBI and got a 10yr/100’smil contract. Perhaps that has something to do with it…….
Bingo!
So you’re saying Winn is so dumb so utterly clueless that he thinks he should get more than a guy who has 11 more home runs 26 more runs and has a .350 obp compared to winns .319 and an ops of .742 compared to winns .643 and Winn has regressed at the plate and in the field from last year to this year? You think Winn is that dumb to think he deserves it because he has 4 more RBI than Winn and that’s only because oli is dumb enough to hit him 4-6 every game allowing all the RBI opportunities?I don’t think he’s that dumb
You dont know?
Winn voicing his frustration around team play and the impending sell off at the deadline is obviously coded language around his contract sutuation.
Duh!
You guys are some of the most clueless dolts I’ve been in contact with ……its always about the $$$
I overheard Winn the other day talking about the weather.
timoevans wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 09:54 am
I read where he is unhappy with the direction the club is going? If he would do better than his 240 BA that might help the team rather than running down the management. Looks like a trade to Tampa or Seattle is in his future? Oakland maybe.......
Why aren't players allowed to be frustrated when fans are? He is just a human being like everyone else. At 244 that is the league average and with his elite defense at short stop he is worthy of being a starter. Not everyone is an all star. I would also say that not a lot of players are studs on offense and defense.
His double play partner is hitting .250 with 4 more RBI and got a 10yr/100’smil contract. Perhaps that has something to do with it…….
Weatherholt is a rookie, is batting leadoff and has 15 HRs. If Weatherholt was hitting in the 6 hole he’d have 60+ RBIs right now.
timoevans wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 09:54 am
I read where he is unhappy with the direction the club is going? If he would do better than his 240 BA that might help the team rather than running down the management. Looks like a trade to Tampa or Seattle is in his future? Oakland maybe.......
Why aren't players allowed to be frustrated when fans are? He is just a human being like everyone else. At 244 that is the league average and with his elite defense at short stop he is worthy of being a starter. Not everyone is an all star. I would also say that not a lot of players are studs on offense and defense.
His double play partner is hitting .250 with 4 more RBI and got a 10yr/100’smil contract. Perhaps that has something to do with it…….
Bingo!
So you’re saying Winn is so dumb so utterly clueless that he thinks he should get more than a guy who has 11 more home runs 26 more runs and has a .350 obp compared to winns .319 and an ops of .742 compared to winns .643 and Winn has regressed at the plate and in the field from last year to this year? You think Winn is that dumb to think he deserves it because he has 4 more RBI than Winn and that’s only because oli is dumb enough to hit him 4-6 every game allowing all the RBI opportunities?I don’t think he’s that dumb
You dont know?
Winn voicing his frustration around team play and the impending sell off at the deadline is obviously coded language around his contract sutuation.
Duh!
You guys are some of the most clueless dolts I’ve been in contact with ……its always about the $$$
So you’re saying he is that dumb okay and that the cardinals have to sign every one on the team to an extension or they will pout because they didn’t get one and JJ did? lol man you’re clueless luckily I don’t think Winn is as clueless as you. And what exactly is your whining argument that they shouldn’t sign JJ or anyone else to extensions because it may upset others? That’s just dumb
timoevans wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 09:54 am
I read where he is unhappy with the direction the club is going? If he would do better than his 240 BA that might help the team rather than running down the management. Looks like a trade to Tampa or Seattle is in his future? Oakland maybe.......
If true, he should know many fans are unhappy with him. His offense has been trash for two seasons.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 10:31 am
Likely feels he should be getting a $100M L-T extension like JJW too.
NO WAY
I'd never extend him, just let him go thru ARB's and one of the plethora of SS's they've drafted will be ready to replace him by the time he gets thru ARB 3.
Your worth often depends on how hard other, better and cheaper players are breathing down your neck.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 10:31 am
Likely feels he should be getting a $100M L-T extension like JJW too.
NO WAY
I'd never extend him, just let him go thru ARB's and one of the plethora of SS's they've drafted will be ready to replace him by the time he gets thru ARB 3.
Your worth often depends on how hard other, better and cheaper players are breathing down your neck.
The Cardinals have drafted a handful of SS's, that breath is going to be getting hot down Winn's neck.
I'd trade him sometime during the next two years for a low level #2/solid #3 starting pitcher w/years of control.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 10:31 am
Likely feels he should be getting a $100M L-T extension like JJW too.
NO WAY
I'd never extend him, just let him go thru ARB's and one of the plethora of SS's they've drafted will be ready to replace him by the time he gets thru ARB 3.
Your worth often depends on how hard other, better and cheaper players are breathing down your neck.
The Cardinals have drafted a handful of SS's, that breath is going to be getting hot down Winn's neck.
I'd trade him sometime during the next two years for a low level #2/solid #3 starting pitcher w/years of control.
In two years his trade value will not return a #2.
timoevans wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 09:54 am
I read where he is unhappy with the direction the club is going? If he would do better than his 240 BA that might help the team rather than running down the management. Looks like a trade to Tampa or Seattle is in his future? Oakland maybe.......
Why aren't players allowed to be frustrated when fans are? He is just a human being like everyone else. At 244 that is the league average and with his elite defense at short stop he is worthy of being a starter. Not everyone is an all star. I would also say that not a lot of players are studs on offense and defense.
His double play partner is hitting .250 with 4 more RBI and got a 10yr/100’smil contract. Perhaps that has something to do with it…….
Good observation…
JJ has been hitting leadoff all season - not an RBI spot.
Comparing the 2 offensively is laughable.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 10:31 am
Likely feels he should be getting a $100M L-T extension like JJW too.
NO WAY
I'd never extend him, just let him go thru ARB's and one of the plethora of SS's they've drafted will be ready to replace him by the time he gets thru ARB 3.
Your worth often depends on how hard other, better and cheaper players are breathing down your neck.
The Cardinals have drafted a handful of SS's, that breath is going to be getting hot down Winn's neck.
I'd trade him sometime during the next two years for a low level #2/solid #3 starting pitcher w/years of control.
In two years his trade value will not return a #2.
I said "sometime during the next two years" Juan, that could mean this weekend, the off season, next spring, ect.....!
(Won't happen but I'd sure be exploring it if I was C. Bloom)
timoevans wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 09:54 am
I read where he is unhappy with the direction the club is going? If he would do better than his 240 BA that might help the team rather than running down the management. Looks like a trade to Tampa or Seattle is in his future? Oakland maybe.......
Why aren't players allowed to be frustrated when fans are? He is just a human being like everyone else. At 244 that is the league average and with his elite defense at short stop he is worthy of being a starter. Not everyone is an all star. I would also say that not a lot of players are studs on offense and defense.
His double play partner is hitting .250 with 4 more RBI and got a 10yr/100’smil contract. Perhaps that has something to do with it…….
Good observation…
Sorry Winn has 4 more RBI….and don’t listen to me…..I’m a dumb[ash] no one agrees with never has a point
The elevation of wetherholt to deity status by followers, media, and seemingly the club has to be noticed by other players…
ecleme22 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 10:52 am
Most likely: reporters caught Winn during the teams bad, disappointing stretch. And he was emotional.
Ppl turning that into Winn being unhappy about JJs contract is a bit of a moronic stretch.
Or even turning it into Winn wanting out of STL….
Team is losing. Dude is (upset). That’s it.
Yes! He isn't the first person or even close to it to voice a negative opinion that could have been left unsaid. That said it might crack the door open where management at least has a discussion with Winn. The report also said everyone butt J.J and Walker were available. Obviously that could have easily leaked into the clubhouse so of course he could have gotten emotional and voiced his honest opinion when asked
