GDT : Cardinals vs Reds (7/26) ~ 1:15pm CDT

[Bomber1]

Are the Cardinals set for the future with Walker in RF, Winn at SS, JJ at second, Herrera at DH and Burly at 1B? They definitely need a LF, CF, C and third baseman. Four positions need an everyday starter. Some may not like the other five

Perfectly willing to move on from Herrera depending on return, obviously.

Well... hopefully Josh Baez(LF) and Bernal(C) are ready to step up next ST?
I still have hope for Church. Let’s see how he finishes 2026?
Could Noot slide to CF??
3B I agree is a big question. Guess we’ll find out about Blaze?

No more Noot please.

[Bomber1]

Are the Cardinals set for the future with Walker in RF, Winn at SS, JJ at second, Herrera at DH and Burly at 1B? They definitely need a LF, CF, C and third baseman. Four positions need an everyday starter. Some may not like the other five

Perfectly willing to move on from Herrera depending on return, obviously.

Well... hopefully Josh Baez(LF) and Bernal(C) are ready to step up next ST?
I still have hope for Church. Let’s see how he finishes 2026?
Could Noot slide to CF??
3B I agree is a big question. Guess we’ll find out about Blaze?

Yeah, defintely ready for Bernal. Crooks isn't ready at all. Can't hit and his defense isn't good enough to make up for it.

Yes
When you looked at the Prospect Rankings in the preseason the Catcher position had the best high end depth:
Crooks
Bernal
Rodriquez

Crooks was first and I agree that so far he doesn’t appear to have it.
Bernal is next and he seems to have the best balance between offense and defense.
September call up???
Rodriquez is a year or so away but he sounds like a potential dynamic bat.
Not saying he won’t catch but he could certainly switch positions.

If Bernal can handle catcher I hope they try and see if Rodriguez can play 3B. If he’s ok there that would solve some problems.

[JuanAgosto]

Are the Cardinals set for the future with Walker in RF, Winn at SS, JJ at second, Herrera at DH and Burly at 1B? They definitely need a LF, CF, C and third baseman. Four positions need an everyday starter. Some may not like the other five

Perfectly willing to move on from Herrera depending on return, obviously.

Well... hopefully Josh Baez(LF) and Bernal(C) are ready to step up next ST?
I still have hope for Church. Let’s see how he finishes 2026?
Could Noot slide to CF??
3B I agree is a big question. Guess we’ll find out about Blaze?

No more Noot please.

Buy that clown some Gatorade

[Bob Kunush]

The Marmot's brutal in-game mismanagement of the pitching staff strikes yet again!

The one trick pony poster strikes again. Your Oli fetish is just creepy.

[Cusecards]

Are the Cardinals set for the future with Walker in RF, Winn at SS, JJ at second, Herrera at DH and Burly at 1B? They definitely need a LF, CF, C and third baseman. Four positions need an everyday starter. Some may not like the other five

Perfectly willing to move on from Herrera depending on return, obviously.

Well... hopefully Josh Baez(LF) and Bernal(C) are ready to step up next ST?
I still have hope for Church. Let’s see how he finishes 2026?
Could Noot slide to CF??
3B I agree is a big question. Guess we’ll find out about Blaze?

Yeah, defintely ready for Bernal. Crooks isn't ready at all. Can't hit and his defense isn't good enough to make up for it.

Yes
When you looked at the Prospect Rankings in the preseason the Catcher position had the best high end depth:
Crooks
Bernal
Rodriquez

Crooks was first and I agree that so far he doesn’t appear to have it.
Bernal is next and he seems to have the best balance between offense and defense.
September call up???
Rodriquez is a year or so away but he sounds like a potential dynamic bat.
Not saying he won’t catch but he could certainly switch positions.

If Bernal can handle catcher I hope they try and see if Rodriguez can play 3B. If he’s ok there that would solve some problems.

From what I have read it sounds like Rodriquez could be a position change candidate based on the potential of his bat?
As for Noot????

[kscardsfan]

The Marmot's brutal in-game mismanagement of the pitching staff strikes yet again!

The one trick pony poster strikes again. Your Oli fetish is just creepy.

Who has the Oli fetish? Talk to that mirror.

[11WSChamps]

1-2-3 inning for Stanek. Has that happened before?

In his last 30 games pitched, Stanek has a 2.63 ERA and a 1.10 WHIP. Time to find a new narrative.

I'm thinking he and Romero will be moved at the deadline.

[11WSChamps]

How can Oli look the players in the eyes after the game telling them he played to win when he puts Svanson in this position?

Just shut up. He had limited options. Understand the situation before you complain. How can the hitters look Oli in the face after another horrific day of offense?.That is a more appropriate question.

Can't argue with that.

[JuanAgosto]

How can any of them look the fans in the eyes?

Ownership goes "rebuild", slashes payroll, and raises ticket prices.

Front office continues to have guys like Svanson on a MLB roster.

Marmol seeing his team take another July nose dive.

Hitters look like they are clueless and swinging noodles.

[Bob Kunush]

The Marmot's brutal in-game mismanagement of the pitching staff strikes yet again!

The one trick pony poster strikes again. Your Oli fetish is just creepy.

Who has the Oli fetish? Talk to that mirror.

I only defend him against the ridiculous constant second guessing. Always blaming the manager for every mishap is a lazy take on baseball. I get tired of reading the constant complaints. How about blaming the players who are the ones on the field? They are the ones playing. I could care a less if Marmol stays as manager. I think he is overall fine but nothing special. I have been on this forum since the LaRussa days and one constant is the blame placed on managers for every bad players play. The manager is rarely to blame for a loss or responsible for a win. They are responsible for managing the roster provided and guiding it through a grueling 162 game marathon. And we are not privy to the information they have in doing that.

Melville tires me with his act. The offense was clearly the blame for the loss today but he has to come up with his Ollie blame on cue. It is just stupid.

[Bomber1]

Are the Cardinals set for the future with Walker in RF, Winn at SS, JJ at second, Herrera at DH and Burly at 1B? They definitely need a LF, CF, C and third baseman. Four positions need an everyday starter. Some may not like the other five

Perfectly willing to move on from Herrera depending on return, obviously.

Well... hopefully Josh Baez(LF) and Bernal(C) are ready to step up next ST?
I still have hope for Church. Let’s see how he finishes 2026?
Could Noot slide to CF??
3B I agree is a big question. Guess we’ll find out about Blaze?

Yeah, defintely ready for Bernal. Crooks isn't ready at all. Can't hit and his defense isn't good enough to make up for it.

Yes
When you looked at the Prospect Rankings in the preseason the Catcher position had the best high end depth:
Crooks
Bernal
Rodriquez

Crooks was first and I agree that so far he doesn’t appear to have it.
Bernal is next and he seems to have the best balance between offense and defense.
September call up???
Rodriquez is a year or so away but he sounds like a potential dynamic bat.
Not saying he won’t catch but he could certainly switch positions.

If Bernal can handle catcher I hope they try and see if Rodriguez can play 3B. If he’s ok there that would solve some problems.

From what I have read it sounds like Rodriquez could be a position change candidate based on the potential of his bat?
As for Noot????

Nootbaar is a FA after next year.

The Cardinals won’t and shouldn’t extend him.

The Cardinals won’t and shouldn’t offer him a QO.

He needs to be traded ASAP.

[Bomber1]

Are the Cardinals set for the future with Walker in RF, Winn at SS, JJ at second, Herrera at DH and Burly at 1B? They definitely need a LF, CF, C and third baseman. Four positions need an everyday starter. Some may not like the other five

Perfectly willing to move on from Herrera depending on return, obviously.

Well... hopefully Josh Baez(LF) and Bernal(C) are ready to step up next ST?
I still have hope for Church. Let’s see how he finishes 2026?
Could Noot slide to CF??
3B I agree is a big question. Guess we’ll find out about Blaze?

Yeah, defintely ready for Bernal. Crooks isn't ready at all. Can't hit and his defense isn't good enough to make up for it.

Yes
When you looked at the Prospect Rankings in the preseason the Catcher position had the best high end depth:
Crooks
Bernal
Rodriquez

Crooks was first and I agree that so far he doesn’t appear to have it.
Bernal is next and he seems to have the best balance between offense and defense.
September call up???
Rodriquez is a year or so away but he sounds like a potential dynamic bat.
Not saying he won’t catch but he could certainly switch positions.

We have/have had so much quantity depth at C, but are we going to get a championship caliber everyday starter out of that bunch?

Bernal has been in the Org 6 years. 6! Maybe its time we see what he can really do?

He’s next in line for sure.
Crooks was rated fairly high. He’s getting his shot and has stunk so far.
Bernal could be getting his shot very soon???

As long as Pages is around how much of a shot will Marmol give Bernal?

Crooks has been bad but he’s never had a consistent string of starts.

I wish they would trade Pages even though he’s the only C who can throw out a runner.

[moose-and-squirrel]

Are the Cardinals set for the future with Walker in RF, Winn at SS, JJ at second, Herrera at DH and Burly at 1B? They definitely need a LF, CF, C and third baseman. Four positions need an everyday starter. Some may not like the other five

Perfectly willing to move on from Herrera depending on return, obviously.

Well... hopefully Josh Baez(LF) and Bernal(C) are ready to step up next ST?
I still have hope for Church. Let’s see how he finishes 2026?
Could Noot slide to CF??
3B I agree is a big question. Guess we’ll find out about Blaze?

Yeah, defintely ready for Bernal. Crooks isn't ready at all. Can't hit and his defense isn't good enough to make up for it.

Yes
When you looked at the Prospect Rankings in the preseason the Catcher position had the best high end depth:
Crooks
Bernal
Rodriquez

Crooks was first and I agree that so far he doesn’t appear to have it.
Bernal is next and he seems to have the best balance between offense and defense.
September call up???
Rodriquez is a year or so away but he sounds like a potential dynamic bat.
Not saying he won’t catch but he could certainly switch positions.

We have/have had so much quantity depth at C, but are we going to get a championship caliber everyday starter out of that bunch?

Bernal has been in the Org 6 years. 6! Maybe its time we see what he can really do?

He’s next in line for sure.
Crooks was rated fairly high. He’s getting his shot and has stunk so far.
Bernal could be getting his shot very soon???

As long as Pages is around how much of a shot will Marmol give Bernal?

Crooks has been bad but he’s never had a consistent string of starts.

I wish they would trade Pages even though he’s the only C who can throw out a runner.

so.. lets start catchers thatd catch hit or throw anybody out?

[Cardinals1964]

The Marmot's brutal in-game mismanagement of the pitching staff strikes yet again!

The one trick pony poster strikes again. Your Oli fetish is just creepy.

Who has the Oli fetish? Talk to that mirror.

I only defend him against the ridiculous constant second guessing. Always blaming the manager for every mishap is a lazy take on baseball. I get tired of reading the constant complaints. How about blaming the players who are the ones on the field? They are the ones playing. I could care a less if Marmol stays as manager. I think he is overall fine but nothing special. I have been on this forum since the LaRussa days and one constant is the blame placed on managers for every bad players play. The manager is rarely to blame for a loss or responsible for a win. They are responsible for managing the roster provided and guiding it through a grueling 162 game marathon. And we are not privy to the information they have in doing that.

Melville tires me with his act. The offense was clearly the blame for the loss today but he has to come up with his Ollie blame on cue. It is just stupid.

Cardinals have a lineup with 4, maybe 5 guys that can hit.
The BP is not good.
Could use a couple starting pitchers.
CT posters blame the players daily. They want to cut players after every game. Some after every pitch. Yet everything is the mangers fault. But wait, there’s more. The same people will blame the owner for not spending money to replace the players that suck. Then….blame the manager for the losses.
I still watched the games. I still enjoy the games. I had no real expectation that this team was gonna go to the playoffs. I expected way more losses to be honest. So there’s no reason for me to be shocked when they lose games.

[kscardsfan]

The Marmot's brutal in-game mismanagement of the pitching staff strikes yet again!

The one trick pony poster strikes again. Your Oli fetish is just creepy.

Who has the Oli fetish? Talk to that mirror.

I only defend him against the ridiculous constant second guessing. Always blaming the manager for every mishap is a lazy take on baseball. I get tired of reading the constant complaints. How about blaming the players who are the ones on the field? They are the ones playing. I could care a less if Marmol stays as manager. I think he is overall fine but nothing special. I have been on this forum since the LaRussa days and one constant is the blame placed on managers for every bad players play. The manager is rarely to blame for a loss or responsible for a win. They are responsible for managing the roster provided and guiding it through a grueling 162 game marathon. And we are not privy to the information they have in doing that.

Melville tires me with his act. The offense was clearly the blame for the loss today but he has to come up with his Ollie blame on cue. It is just stupid.

So in your case understanding what happens in a game is similar to reading comprehension.

[Bomber1]

Are the Cardinals set for the future with Walker in RF, Winn at SS, JJ at second, Herrera at DH and Burly at 1B? They definitely need a LF, CF, C and third baseman. Four positions need an everyday starter. Some may not like the other five

Perfectly willing to move on from Herrera depending on return, obviously.

Well... hopefully Josh Baez(LF) and Bernal(C) are ready to step up next ST?
I still have hope for Church. Let’s see how he finishes 2026?
Could Noot slide to CF??
3B I agree is a big question. Guess we’ll find out about Blaze?

Yeah, defintely ready for Bernal. Crooks isn't ready at all. Can't hit and his defense isn't good enough to make up for it.

Yes
When you looked at the Prospect Rankings in the preseason the Catcher position had the best high end depth:
Crooks
Bernal
Rodriquez

Crooks was first and I agree that so far he doesn’t appear to have it.
Bernal is next and he seems to have the best balance between offense and defense.
September call up???
Rodriquez is a year or so away but he sounds like a potential dynamic bat.
Not saying he won’t catch but he could certainly switch positions.

We have/have had so much quantity depth at C, but are we going to get a championship caliber everyday starter out of that bunch?

Bernal has been in the Org 6 years. 6! Maybe its time we see what he can really do?

He’s next in line for sure.
Crooks was rated fairly high. He’s getting his shot and has stunk so far.
Bernal could be getting his shot very soon???

As long as Pages is around how much of a shot will Marmol give Bernal?

Crooks has been bad but he’s never had a consistent string of starts.

I wish they would trade Pages even though he’s the only C who can throw out a runner.

so.. lets start catchers thatd catch hit or throw anybody out?

Pages can’t hit. He throws guys out at a decent pace but he’s not a great receiver.
Herrera hits but can’t throw anybody out.
Neither is particularly good at blocking pitches.
Crooks hasn’t played enough to know one way or the other but so far has been bad.
Bernal may be the best of all but if Pages is still here he takes starts that should go to Bernal or Crooks.

It wouldn’t bother me a bit if they trade Herrera and Pages.

Promote Bernal and Crooks can back him up.