2027 minor league pitching depth

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2027 minor league pitching depth

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Memphis:

Doyle
Cijntje.
Roby.
Molina
Fitts
Henderson


Springfield:

Franklin
Clarke
Kuhns
Aita
Davis.
Hjerpe


Peoria:

Odle
Randal
Martinez
Graham
Crossland
Montessa?


I mean that's pretty spectacular depth. Am I missing anyone?
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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Fajardo, Chen Wei Lin.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:49 pm Fajardo, Chen Wei Lin.
Forgot Fajardo. Man he might have to repeat Peoria despite being pretty dominant this year. Lin is bullpen bound imo.
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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The depth is impressive, let’s see how we can develop this depth. Son big arms for sure.

How would it look if McGreevy and Pallante were our 4 and 5 guys instead of our 1 and two guys.
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Agree on Lin being bullpen bound. If that is the case, he could make St Louis next year. If he remains a starter look for him in 2028.

They need a real promotion/usage plan so that these guys don't stall out at any level just because there is no room to move them up. This starts by creating churn at the top (MLB). They need to trade May and one other pitcher (Leahy or Liberatore get my vote) to create two rotation openings. This will allow Mathews, Mautz, Dobbins, Fitts, Hjerpe, and Roby to contend for open spots next spring. The second way to create openings is to move some pitchers to the bullpen. Lin, Pete Hansen, maybe Hjerpe, and Ty Van Dyke would be candidates for that. The third way to create openings is to move 1 or 2 in trades. Gotta be careful there. In some way, they need to be able to promote 2-3 pitchers who are doing well at every level. Doesn't happen right if the whole thing is backed up.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 14:32 pm Agree on Lin being bullpen bound. If that is the case, he could make St Louis next year. If he remains a starter look for him in 2028.

They need a real promotion/usage plan so that these guys don't stall out at any level just because there is no room to move them up. This starts by creating churn at the top (MLB). They need to trade May and one other pitcher (Leahy or Liberatore get my vote) to create two rotation openings. This will allow Mathews, Mautz, Dobbins, Fitts, Hjerpe, and Roby to contend for open spots next spring. The second way to create openings is to move some pitchers to the bullpen. Lin, Pete Hansen, maybe Hjerpe, and Ty Van Dyke would be candidates for that. The third way to create openings is to move 1 or 2 in trades. Gotta be careful there. In some way, they need to be able to promote 2-3 pitchers who are doing well at every level. Doesn't happen right if the whole thing is backed up.
I could see a trade. Things usually work themselves out though if you know what I mean.
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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good stuff, BB

I don't believe Clarke will start in Springfield to begin next year.

The Cards are going to be very, very careful with him. I think, at best, he'll start in Peoria, and he'll be inning/pitch checked for much of the year. We're too stacked with pitchers, to put someone on an innings leash at Springfield would be detrimental to his peers, who NEED a lot of innings.
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:37 pm Memphis:

Doyle
Cijntje.
Roby.
Molina
Fitts
Henderson


Springfield:

Franklin
Clarke
Kuhns
Aita
Davis.
Hjerpe


Peoria:

Odle
Randal
Martinez
Graham
Crossland
Montessa?


I mean that's pretty spectacular depth. Am I missing anyone?
Are you not including Quinn Mathews for any reason?
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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Slip Kid wrote: 26 Jul 2026 16:59 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:37 pm Memphis:

Doyle
Cijntje.
Roby.
Molina
Fitts
Henderson


Springfield:

Franklin
Clarke
Kuhns
Aita
Davis.
Hjerpe


Peoria:

Odle
Randal
Martinez
Graham
Crossland
Montessa?


I mean that's pretty spectacular depth. Am I missing anyone?
Are you not including Quinn Mathews for any reason?
probably assuming that he's in rotation with St. Louis next year
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Slip Kid wrote: 26 Jul 2026 16:59 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:37 pm Memphis:

Doyle
Cijntje.
Roby.
Molina
Fitts
Henderson


Springfield:

Franklin
Clarke
Kuhns
Aita
Davis.
Hjerpe


Peoria:

Odle
Randal
Martinez
Graham
Crossland
Montessa?


I mean that's pretty spectacular depth. Am I missing anyone?
Are you not including Quinn Mathews for any reason?
Quin will be pitching in St Louis next year.
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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craviduce wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:02 pm
Slip Kid wrote: 26 Jul 2026 16:59 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:37 pm Memphis:

Doyle
Cijntje.
Roby.
Molina
Fitts
Henderson


Springfield:

Franklin
Clarke
Kuhns
Aita
Davis.
Hjerpe


Peoria:

Odle
Randal
Martinez
Graham
Crossland
Montessa?


I mean that's pretty spectacular depth. Am I missing anyone?
Are you not including Quinn Mathews for any reason?
probably assuming that he's in rotation with St. Louis next year
this year? (after the trade deadline)
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Hjerpe will also be a part of Memphis ... maybe next year or St Louis. Some don't see him starting. But, I think it's very possible.
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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hugeCardfan wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:16 pm Hjerpe will also be a part of Memphis ... maybe next year or St Louis. Some don't see him starting. But, I think it's very possible.
Idk. It's hard to say. Maybe Doyle repeats AA and Hjerpe starts at AAA? Hjerpe should 100% start. He probably has the second best stuff in our prospect pool. But that's part of my point. It's absolutely jam packed.
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 14:04 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:49 pm Fajardo, Chen Wei Lin.
Forgot Fajardo. Man he might have to repeat Peoria despite being pretty dominant this year. Lin is bullpen bound imo.
Idk. Is hjerpe even worth keeping?

Also Matthews? Hes got to be promoted right? Who else is no longer in Memphis?
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craviduce wrote: 26 Jul 2026 16:56 pm good stuff, BB

I don't believe Clarke will start in Springfield to begin next year.

The Cards are going to be very, very careful with him. I think, at best, he'll start in Peoria, and he'll be inning/pitch checked for much of the year. We're too stacked with pitchers, to put someone on an innings leash at Springfield would be detrimental to his peers, who NEED a lot of innings.
You're probably right. I forgot his innings have been so limited thus far in his career. Maybe him and Randal can piggyback lol
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Re: 2027 minor league pitching depth

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Carp4Cy wrote: 26 Jul 2026 17:54 pm
billybaseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 14:04 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 26 Jul 2026 13:49 pm Fajardo, Chen Wei Lin.
Forgot Fajardo. Man he might have to repeat Peoria despite being pretty dominant this year. Lin is bullpen bound imo.
Idk. Is hjerpe even worth keeping?

Also Matthews? Hes got to be promoted right? Who else is no longer in Memphis?
Don't know what you mean about Hjerpe. I think Matthews has probably made his last AAA start for now.