Would you protect Chase Davis this winter?

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Would you protect Chase Davis this winter?

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2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
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Re: Would you protect Chase Davis this winter?

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craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
I would not. And, feeling that way, if he had any value as an inclusion on a trade, I would do that.
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craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
Good question a lot would depend on who all has to be added to the 40 man and who the cards pick up but i personally probably would go with the calculated gamble of not protecting him like they did with blaze unless he finishes super strong at Memphis then you may protect him but if he struggles the rest of the year no. Even if someone did pick him I think he would be returned at the end of the spring training or returned at some point during the year but just my opinion
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No, he's looking like a bust.
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Not much offensive upside in a player approaching his 25th birthday. Or, perhaps I should say there is little evidence to suggest any achieved upside can be sustained if it was dependent on peak physical maturity. There are one or two actuarial studies out there on this topic. I don't know if that type of work has penetrated into baseball analytics.
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WABAC wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:57 pm Not much offensive upside in a player approaching his 25th birthday. Or, perhaps I should say there is little evidence to suggest any achieved upside can be sustained if it was dependent on peak physical maturity. There are one or two actuarial studies out there on this topic. I don't know if that type of work has penetrated into baseball analytics.
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Re: Would you protect Chase Davis this winter?

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:31 pm
craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
I would not. And, feeling that way, if he had any value as an inclusion on a trade, I would do that.
My thoughts too. Get something for him if you can, otherwise let him slide. If another teams takes him, so be it.
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Re: Would you protect Chase Davis this winter?

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craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
No, I wouldn't.

Kind of think his recent promotion was either for:

1.) Last ditch effort to see if he sink or swim.
2.) A way to boost his value at the TD.
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WABAC wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:57 pm Not much offensive upside in a player approaching his 25th birthday. Or, perhaps I should say there is little evidence to suggest any achieved upside can be sustained if it was dependent on peak physical maturity. There are one or two actuarial studies out there on this topic. I don't know if that type of work has penetrated into baseball analytics.
They've used age curves for contracts for quite a while now. But I thought peak baseball age was ~28
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craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
Depends how he finishes the season, but I wouldn't be shocked

The current 40 man has a bit of dead weight and / or trade bait if you ask me (Gorman, Scott, Saggese, Prieto, Velazquez, Torres, Pages). The pitching side has plenty of cuts as well

So they could easily find room if they want
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Re: Would you protect Chase Davis this winter?

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 25 Jul 2026 22:03 pm
craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
No, I wouldn't.

Kind of think his recent promotion was either for:

1.) Last ditch effort to see if he sink or swim.
2.) A way to boost his value at the TD.
this

definitely wasn't 'earned'
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Re: Would you protect Chase Davis this winter?

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cosmo.kramer wrote: 26 Jul 2026 00:59 am
craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
Depends how he finishes the season, but I wouldn't be shocked

The current 40 man has a bit of dead weight and / or trade bait if you ask me (Gorman, Scott, Saggese, Prieto, Velazquez, Torres, Pages). The pitching side has plenty of cuts as well

So they could easily find room if they want
What you say is true, but they have many others competing for the spots of protection. Others who will need to be rostered, or be exposed to the Rule V draft include:

Jesus Baez
Travis Honeyman
Colton Ledbetter
Won-Bin Cho
Quinn Mathews
Pete Hansen
Ixan Henderson
Chen Wei Lin
Hancel Rincon
Austin Love
Jose Suarez
Lionel Sequera
Jacob Odle
Sammy Hernandez
Ramon Mendoza
Tre Richardson III
Cade Winquest
Yordalin Pena

For me, if the Cardinals could come up with, say 7 roster spots, Davis wouldn't make the list of 7.
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cosmo.kramer wrote: 26 Jul 2026 00:59 am
craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
Depends how he finishes the season, but I wouldn't be shocked

The current 40 man has a bit of dead weight and / or trade bait if you ask me (Gorman, Scott, Saggese, Prieto, Velazquez, Torres, Pages). The pitching side has plenty of cuts as well

So they could easily find room if they want
When you put it that way it makes sense to expose someone else and give him another year in this system.
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cosmo.kramer wrote: 26 Jul 2026 00:59 am
craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
Depends how he finishes the season, but I wouldn't be shocked

The current 40 man has a bit of dead weight and / or trade bait if you ask me (Gorman, Scott, Saggese, Prieto, Velazquez, Torres, Pages). The pitching side has plenty of cuts as well

So they could easily find room if they want
Not sure if he is worth it you all would know more than I, but in regards to the dead weight comment, if he does show any promise total agreed about dumping one of the mentioned players in () or pitching.

I just don't know much about the highlighted player so....
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craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
“Crash” Davis’ kid? Sign ‘em up!
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:36 pm
craviduce wrote: 25 Jul 2026 21:27 pm 2023 Draft, 1st round pick. Needs protecting...if there isn't a labor stoppage.

Great glove at every OF position. Puts the ball on the ground way too much and K's quite a bit....struggles to hit for average. The power is there, but hasn't been realized.

he does walk a lot. that's a plus

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/chase ... ts/batting
Good question a lot would depend on who all has to be added to the 40 man and who the cards pick up but i personally probably would go with the calculated gamble of not protecting him like they did with blaze unless he finishes super strong at Memphis then you may protect him but if he struggles the rest of the year no. Even if someone did pick him I think he would be returned at the end of the spring training or returned at some point during the year but just my opinion
https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... /cardinals

Theres a tab that has options or rule 5 status. Ones needing to be added are either saying dec 26 or r5 if they already cleared rule 5 this year but would need to again next year.

I really dont see that many important names that have to be added this offseason other than quinn mathews and jesus baez.

Entering the year it maybe looked like ixan henderson would need to be protected at years end following his 2025 but he instead was injured all year this season so we dont have to worry about that.