May helped his value.

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Not nearly enough, his numbers for the season are pitiful. Not enough to even get anything of value.

The team is regressing to what we thought they would be

His 3.15 FIP ranks 10th in baseball and his 3.92 SIERA ranks 31st. Oh, and he's on a very reasonable contract. He's got value especially in a trade market that is very limited in terms of available rentals.

Exactly. A guy with the kind of starter’s repertoire that May has is going to get a good return.

[Mort Gage]

Only four NL teams are out of the picture in the NL. Three, maybe four teams are out in the AL. There will be plenty of demand for May.

[RunSup]

Trade him. Trade him now. Do what was intended when they signed him.

May's value is not going to get higher. This is his peak. He will not be part of the core competing in 2028. He can opt out at the end of the season.

Trade May by the deadline.

[rockondlouie]

With a very solid performance. If you only are offered a lottery ticket, keep him as he has more value in helping this team making the playoffs than some player that odds are he won't do much.

If they were 10 games under .500 you trade him for what you can get. They have a puncher chance to make the playoffs, so keep him if playoffs is only a loytery ticket.

Do you see trade him before his next start? Another solid effort builds up his value, but another 5 inning 5 runs effort hurts it.

+1 RR

He'll bring back a lot more than a lotto ticket prospect since he's better than almost any teams #4/5 w/#2/3 upside if he's on that day (re: his near no-no).

And if it was me, I'd be trying to deal him before he makes his final Cardinal start vs the scrubbies!

[sikeston bulldog2]

Trade him before his next start.

He has shown the he recovered from the 2 gamr overuse at the time of his 1 hitter.

He has shown that if you limit his pitches, he will probably give you a QS. That has some value. He doesn't have to be a TOTR starter. If he can slot in as a 4th starter on a team with limited pitching solid depth, he can make those games more winnable
If the Nationals had May for example, with the offense they have that could make a huge difference.

But trade him on a high note... any team will take a game like this any day. Not flawless, but gives them a good chance to win.

He will not bring back a mlb player. Period. Take your chances he stays well. Hes a pro level .500 baseball pitcher already. No development needed.

Cheap12.5 . A Strong number three. Pallante and Leahy make a fine 3-5. Need a killer 1-2. And

[CorneliusWolfe]

I’m pretty sure there will be a lot of interested teams but I doubt any that will be willing to part with anything more than lottery ticket prospects.

We might land someone who is doing well at the lowest levels but still several years from MLB, which still makes them a lottery ticket.

May would have to be a part of a much bigger
package to net a real prospect close to MLB, like May+Romero+Soriano+another roster player or prospect…with May being like the Edwin Jackson of the Rasmus deal.

Teams know his history and won’t count on him to be a FOTR starter, unless maybe we accept low return and they just can’t land anyone better.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I’m pretty sure there will be a lot of interested teams but I doubt any that will be willing to part with anything more than lottery ticket prospects.

We might land someone who is doing well at the lowest levels but still several years from MLB, which still makes them a lottery ticket.

May would have to be a part of a much bigger
package to net a real prospect close to MLB, like May+Romero+Soriano+another roster player or prospect…with May being like the Edwin Jackson of the Rasmus deal.

Teams know his history and won’t count on him to be a FOTR starter, unless maybe we accept low return and they just can’t land anyone better.

Nice entry. Agreed. That’s why I keep him. He has pitched and earned 7 M ish of his season salary. 12 more starts.

[ecleme22]

You remove Mays first start, and that 0.2 innings 5 earned runs on July 2nd…

He’s 18 starts, 10 QS and a 3.84 era

He’s totally trade bait.

But you can't, it is all part of the equation.

They will get future considerations for him in the form of a low minor league player or two.

You can’t remove it, but GMs can use it in their logic.

Similar to Stanek regarding his bad April.

We will see what May fetches

[Strummer Jones]

Could be looking at a Jordan Montgomery-esque deal. Some similarities.

Oft injured but talented starter.
Probably not a classic 1-2 starter, but someone you feel good about starting in the back end of a playoff series.

The only surface level difference is the amount of control. But I imagine if you just eat what remains of his salary that could bring back a nice piece. Might as well eat the salary anyway. He wasn't making *that* much in the first place.

[CorneliusWolfe]

I’m pretty sure there will be a lot of interested teams but I doubt any that will be willing to part with anything more than lottery ticket prospects.

We might land someone who is doing well at the lowest levels but still several years from MLB, which still makes them a lottery ticket.

May would have to be a part of a much bigger
package to net a real prospect close to MLB, like May+Romero+Soriano+another roster player or prospect…with May being like the Edwin Jackson of the Rasmus deal.

Teams know his history and won’t count on him to be a FOTR starter, unless maybe we accept low return and they just can’t land anyone better.

Nice entry. Agreed. That’s why I keep him. He has pitched and earned 7 M ish of his season salary. 12 more starts.

Would definitely like to keep him around, but they can’t just let him walk after a likely lost non-playoff season and get nothing for him.

They should at least try to get him to sign a short extension, maybe with a little inflated AAV. Like 3 yr/17 per and give him an opt out after two. If he performs, he can still land his big long term deal, especially if he performed well, which would be inferred if he’s opting out in the first place.

He would stand to land an even bigger deal if he were to prove some durability. He has to suspect teams will not trust his injury history enough for a 5+ year deal anyway, so he could get some security and flexibility with a deal like I proposed.

If he’s 100% set on testing free agency after this season, I’d have to get what I can now, even at a lesser return.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I’m pretty sure there will be a lot of interested teams but I doubt any that will be willing to part with anything more than lottery ticket prospects.

We might land someone who is doing well at the lowest levels but still several years from MLB, which still makes them a lottery ticket.

May would have to be a part of a much bigger
package to net a real prospect close to MLB, like May+Romero+Soriano+another roster player or prospect…with May being like the Edwin Jackson of the Rasmus deal.

Teams know his history and won’t count on him to be a FOTR starter, unless maybe we accept low return and they just can’t land anyone better.

Nice entry. Agreed. That’s why I keep him. He has pitched and earned 7 M ish of his season salary. 12 more starts.

Would definitely like to keep him around, but they can’t just let him walk after a likely lost non-playoff season and get nothing for him.

They should at least try to get him to sign a short extension, maybe with a little inflated AAV. Like 3 yr/17 per and give him an opt out after two. If he performs, he can still land his big long term deal, especially if he performed well, which would be inferred if he’s opting out in the first place.

He would stand to land an even bigger deal if he were to prove some durability. He has to suspect teams will not trust his injury history enough for a 5+ year deal anyway, so he could get some security and flexibility with a deal like I proposed.

If he’s 100% set on testing free agency after this season, I’d have to get what I can now, even at a lesser return.

Another fine write. That’s why I keep him- his return. The difference between him walking, and a prospect in return, is a mere walk down the road. We’ll never see neither.

His projected knock is the up coming injury; what if it don’t come.

May McG Pallante Leahy gives me five ish innings per start. The new gold standard in pitching is the Quality Start. All four of these Cant flirt with that stat game to gane.

Then comes the pen.

Need- an Ace, and pen.

[Mort Gage]

They aren't good enough to keep May all season. Their ceiling is squeaking in as a third wild card followed by a quick elimination. And they are sinking in that race. I prefer keeping him as close to the deadline as possible to maximize return, though I understand the argument to trade him earlier and not risk a bad start.

[rockondlouie]

D. May had a 12 game stretch where he posted a 2.54 ERA/2.69 FiP that included a 1 hit gem, 9 inning shutout.

You don't get a "lotto ticket" (re: useless prospect) for a pitcher like May.

You get a strong, mid tier prospect who's a player with a solid shot at becoming a MLB player.

C. Bloom could even get MLB ready talent.

"Lotto Ticket" returns are for the N. Gorman types in a solo deal.

[CCard]

With a very solid performance. If you only are offered a lottery ticket, keep him as he has more value in helping this team making the playoffs than some player that odds are he won't do much.

If they were 10 games under .500 you trade him for what you can get. They have a puncher chance to make the playoffs, so keep him if playoffs is only a loytery ticket.

Do you see trade him before his next start? Another solid effort builds up his value, but another 5 inning 5 runs effort hurts it.

I've seen enough of May. He's just not consistent enough. 1 great start and then mediocrity for 2 or 3 starts. I guess that's why the Cards were able to get him.

[Basil Shabazz]

You remove Mays first start, and that 0.2 innings 5 earned runs on July 2nd…

He’s 18 starts, 10 QS and a 3.84 era

He’s totally trade bait.

Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just erase the worst performances from our stats? Unfortunately, that’s not how it works.

By that logic, I’d be 20 pounds lighter if I hadn’t put on those extra 20 pounds over the holidays.

Numbers are funny—you can manipulate them to make almost any point you want. But the unfiltered numbers are still the truth.

That said, I do think May has solid trade value. It’s just a matter of finding the right trade partner. To me, he’s absolutely trade bait.

[mattmitchl44]

Wonder if the Cardinals could package May and O'Brien to the Cubs.

Seems like they could use both a SP and a closer.

Cubs farm system is supposedly deeper in position players.