Grading the Blues Offseason

[2forDiving]

Yea But:
The last true franchise player the St. Louis Blues had — a guy you build the entire team around — was Chris Pronger, ending in 2004.
After him, the Blues have had stars, leaders, and elite contributors… but not a single true franchise cornerstone.

Gotta have something to start with!

Bobby Tom-a good player-not a franchise player-and not a captain!
Blues need/have to have a starter-build around that

Man, that was such a great draft by the Blues when they landed Pronger. Very astute move.

Yep. You can't build a franchise unless you draft a generational player like Pronger.

The Blues did not draft Pronger...they traded Shanahan for him.

Exactly, you are completely missing his point. It was sarcasm

[DoneLurking]

Yea But:
The last true franchise player the St. Louis Blues had — a guy you build the entire team around — was Chris Pronger, ending in 2004.
After him, the Blues have had stars, leaders, and elite contributors… but not a single true franchise cornerstone.

Gotta have something to start with!

Bobby Tom-a good player-not a franchise player-and not a captain!
Blues need/have to have a starter-build around that

Man, that was such a great draft by the Blues when they landed Pronger. Very astute move.

Yep. You can't build a franchise unless you draft a generational player like Pronger.

The Blues did not draft Pronger...they traded Shanahan for him.

If bud white was joking, his post would have been pretty funny. If it was a joke, this reply would make that joke even funnier.

Also, nice job, bud.

[son_of_foolsgold]

Yea But:
The last true franchise player the St. Louis Blues had — a guy you build the entire team around — was Chris Pronger, ending in 2004.
After him, the Blues have had stars, leaders, and elite contributors… but not a single true franchise cornerstone.

Gotta have something to start with!

Bobby Tom-a good player-not a franchise player-and not a captain!
Blues need/have to have a starter-build around that

Man, that was such a great draft by the Blues when they landed Pronger. Very astute move.

Yep. You can't build a franchise unless you draft a generational player like Pronger.

The Blues did not draft Pronger...they traded Shanahan for him.

Exactly, you are completely missing his point. It was sarcasm

Usually the first claim to "save face" after making an error...but whatever, it wasn't obvious...

[Army's Mom]

Yea But:
The last true franchise player the St. Louis Blues had — a guy you build the entire team around — was Chris Pronger, ending in 2004.
After him, the Blues have had stars, leaders, and elite contributors… but not a single true franchise cornerstone.

Gotta have something to start with!

Bobby Tom-a good player-not a franchise player-and not a captain!
Blues need/have to have a starter-build around that

Man, that was such a great draft by the Blues when they landed Pronger. Very astute move.

Yep. You can't build a franchise unless you draft a generational player like Pronger.

The Blues did not draft Pronger...they traded Shanahan for him.

Exactly, you are completely missing his point. It was sarcasm

Usually the first claim to "save face" after making an error...but whatever, it wasn't obvious...

Sure looked like an obvious dig at the Not All Top 5 Picks Are Top 5 Picks Troll.

[bud white]

Yea But:
The last true franchise player the St. Louis Blues had — a guy you build the entire team around — was Chris Pronger, ending in 2004.
After him, the Blues have had stars, leaders, and elite contributors… but not a single true franchise cornerstone.

Gotta have something to start with!

Bobby Tom-a good player-not a franchise player-and not a captain!
Blues need/have to have a starter-build around that

Man, that was such a great draft by the Blues when they landed Pronger. Very astute move.

Yep. You can't build a franchise unless you draft a generational player like Pronger.

The Blues did not draft Pronger...they traded Shanahan for him.

If bud white was joking, his post would have been pretty funny. If it was a joke, this reply would make that joke even funnier.

Also, nice job, bud.

I thank you sir.

Wow ... I thought that - based on my post history - folks would have understood that this was sarcasm.

[bud white]

Yea But:
The last true franchise player the St. Louis Blues had — a guy you build the entire team around — was Chris Pronger, ending in 2004.
After him, the Blues have had stars, leaders, and elite contributors… but not a single true franchise cornerstone.

Gotta have something to start with!

Bobby Tom-a good player-not a franchise player-and not a captain!
Blues need/have to have a starter-build around that

So, you're saying you don't need a franchise player to win a Stanley Cup? Then what are we all arguing about exactly?

Question for all - The Hurricanes won the Cup this year. Who is their high draft "Franchise player" upon which they built their team?

[zamadoo]

Yea But:
The last true franchise player the St. Louis Blues had — a guy you build the entire team around — was Chris Pronger, ending in 2004.
After him, the Blues have had stars, leaders, and elite contributors… but not a single true franchise cornerstone.

Gotta have something to start with!

Bobby Tom-a good player-not a franchise player-and not a captain!
Blues need/have to have a starter-build around that

Man, that was such a great draft by the Blues when they landed Pronger. Very astute move.

Yep. You can't build a franchise unless you draft a generational player like Pronger.

The Blues did not draft Pronger...they traded Shanahan for him.

If bud white was joking, his post would have been pretty funny. If it was a joke, this reply would make that joke even funnier.

Also, nice job, bud.

I thank you sir.

Wow ... I thought that - based on my post history - folks would have understood that this was sarcasm.

It can become so adversarial in here sometimes that people are on edge and expect a literal counter to their argument every time they post. It might even be why some are here. But, your post was clear as day sarcasm to me. Or should I say, clear as mud? (no emoji or blue font needed?)

[netboy65]

Yea But:
The last true franchise player the St. Louis Blues had — a guy you build the entire team around — was Chris Pronger, ending in 2004.
After him, the Blues have had stars, leaders, and elite contributors… but not a single true franchise cornerstone.

Gotta have something to start with!

Bobby Tom-a good player-not a franchise player-and not a captain!
Blues need/have to have a starter-build around that

We didn’t draft Pronger though, he was a castoff from Hartford so he doesn’t count, remember?

[TheJackBurton]

Yea But:
The last true franchise player the St. Louis Blues had — a guy you build the entire team around — was Chris Pronger, ending in 2004.
After him, the Blues have had stars, leaders, and elite contributors… but not a single true franchise cornerstone.

Gotta have something to start with!

Bobby Tom-a good player-not a franchise player-and not a captain!
Blues need/have to have a starter-build around that

We didn’t draft Pronger though, he was a castoff from Hartford so he doesn’t count, remember?

you can't win with castoffs. Even that hull guy was a throw away. Same with players by the name of Oates, Stevens, Gretzky, Schenn, O'Reilly, Bouwmeester, and especially Michael Del Zotto.

[DIAMONDINTHEROUGH]

The Hockey News thinks MacTavish will be one of the top 5 bounceback players this year.

The Hockey News also thought Radim Mrtka was the 4th best prospect outside the NHL, yet most of the fools on here still bash him just because PArayko rejected the trade that would have brought him to the Blues. Strange how that works...

I haven't read that. I'll look it up.