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[Talkin' Baseball]

A Burly trade proposal. Actually two proposals.

1) Alec Burleson straight up to the Tigers for Josue Briceno.
Bricneo is 21 and is a C/1B (think 1B). He is a left handed hitter currently at AA. He has a 60 grade hit tool and makes loud contact like Joshua Baez with better contact skills. He would become Burleson's replacement.

The Tigers are currently 3.5 games out of the wildcard race. The production from their 1B ranks 27th in the majors, RF ranks 29th, and DH ranks 20th. Burleson could help them with any of that. If the Tigers wanted someone else the Cardinals have in addition to Burleson, ask for Malachi Witherspoon.

2) If things don't work out with the Tigers, trade Burleson to the Miami Marlins.
Marlins get: Alec Burleson
Cardinals get; Kevin DeFrank, Santiago Solarte, and Yohanfer Santana.

The Marlins need another quality bat and rank 25th in production at 1B.

Kevin Defrank 17y/o MLB Pipeline grades- Scouting grades: Fastball: 70 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 50 | Overall: 50
The 6-foot-5 righty is quite physically mature for his age with an athletic, muscly frame. Between his size and arm speed, he's already able to touch triple digits on a four-seamer that operates at 97 mph. He's able to locate the pitch well and gets both ride and armside run. Defrank's changeup features splitter-like sink and is quite advanced for his age, sitting 88-91 mph. He rounds out his arsenal with a high-spin sweeping slider that parks at 86-89 mph and could eventually become plus.

Defrank's power stuff at this age is impressive enough, and the fact that he's consistently throwing it for strikes separates him from most DSL pitchers. His command still has a ways to go, as expected from someone his age, but he has the athleticism and repeats his delivery well enough to already show average control. Teenage pitching prospects are incredibly risky, but he's checking every box you'd want to see, including impressive makeup and leadership.

Santiago Solarte 17 y/o SS Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 60 | Run: 50 | Arm: 50 | Field: 55 | Overall: 45
The Venezuela native immediately stands out for his physical strength with near-top-of-the-line exit velocities from the left side of the plate. The question as he matures, of course, is how much he'll be able to tap into it. Solarte is quite coordinated for his size, although his longer limbs will challenge his ability to make consistent contact. Still, he has plenty of bat speed from his closed-off stance and displays strong pitch recognition.

Solarte is currently an above-average runner but figures to slow down as he adds weight. He uses his athleticism well on defense with clean actions and a strong arm. There are few big league shortstops his size, but he'll be given every chance to stick there, even if the Marlins may give him playing time at second and third, as they do with most infield prospects. He will have as much upside as anyone in the Marlins' system if he can tap into his tremendous tools.

Yohanfer Santana 20 y/o Scouting grades: Fastball: 65 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 40 | Overall: 40
Santana was touching the high 90s before his elbow injury and spent his time rehabbing adding significant muscle. The right-hander is now up closer to 250 pounds, compared to his listed weight of 200, enabling him to top out at 102.6 mph on his fastball with impressive ride. His upper-80s cutter-like slider is his best secondary pitch with the potential to be plus, and his low-90s changeup also has promise.

Santana's control has wobbled before and after the injury, but the hope is that added strength will make his delivery more consistent and coordinated. This is one of the highest-upside arms in the system, albeit one who turns 21 in October, has yet to pitch stateside and has to be added to the 40-man roster after the 2027 season or be exposed to the Rule 5 Draft. This will be a key season, more than a year after the surgery, to see how his powerful stuff plays against better competition.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Burleson BTV 21.7

Defrank 11,6
Solarte 7.2
Santana 1.6
Total 20.4

[imetsatchelpaige]

Why do you want to trade him?

[ggnoobs]

I think Burly fits into the opening competitive window about 2 years from now.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Why do you want to trade him?

I'm not adamant about it. He's a quality major league hitter. In my opinion, either of these packages make the Cardinals better and matches their timeline better. While a quality player, I think Burleson is a limited player who is playing at or near his peak. I would have no qualms with the Cardinals keeping him for now, and I definitely would not accept a poor return for him. Both of the teams mentioned here as trade partners would be reluctant to make these trades because of the quality of the return.

[renostl]

Had the Cards dropped 8-10 games off the pace, I think trades like this
could easily get done.
It seems less likely now, however I get the reasoning and for those reasons
I'd look at Herrera too.

[Lightning Rod]

Had the Cards dropped 8-10 games off the pace, I think trades like this
could easily get done.
It seems less likely now, however I get the reasoning and for those reasons
I'd look at Herrera too.

I'd trade Hererra before Burly.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Had the Cards dropped 8-10 games off the pace, I think trades like this
could easily get done.
It seems less likely now, however I get the reasoning and for those reasons
I'd look at Herrera too.

I'd trade Hererra before Burly.

He would be easier to trade.

[hornetfb52]

If they trade Burly it’s because they see that as Rainels future spot. Doubt they do that this season. Just my opinion

[Talkin' Baseball]

If they trade Burly it’s because they see that as Rainels future spot. Doubt they do that this season. Just my opinion

I like the idea of Briceno as Burleson's replacement. He is a better hitter than Baez and he is lefthanded. If we aren't intentional, we are going to get too right handed.

[renostl]

Had the Cards dropped 8-10 games off the pace, I think trades like this
could easily get done.
It seems less likely now, however I get the reasoning and for those reasons
I'd look at Herrera too.

I'd trade Hererra before Burly.

I can understand that. The drop in SLG and just his AB's can
give concern, along with his lack of position.

Neither is a must. I think Burleson is probably more consistent and
his SLG has slowly gotten to respectable for both players profiles.

[imetsatchelpaige]

Had the Cards dropped 8-10 games off the pace, I think trades like this
could easily get done.
It seems less likely now, however I get the reasoning and for those reasons
I'd look at Herrera too.

I'd trade Hererra before Burly.

I would not trade either one.

[renostl]

Had the Cards dropped 8-10 games off the pace, I think trades like this
could easily get done.
It seems less likely now, however I get the reasoning and for those reasons
I'd look at Herrera too.

I'd trade Hererra before Burly.

I would not trade either one.

There's certainly a lot of time
things could change.

[Basil Shabazz]

If they trade Burly it’s because they see that as Rainels future spot. Doubt they do that this season. Just my opinion

I like the idea of Briceno as Burleson's replacement. He is a better hitter than Baez and he is lefthanded. If we aren't intentional, we are going to get too right handed.

How can we say he is a better hitter than Baez when he doesn't even have 200 ABs above A ball?

[Jatalk]

A Burly trade proposal. Actually two proposals.

1) Alec Burleson straight up to the Tigers for Josue Briceno.
Bricneo is 21 and is a C/1B (think 1B). He is a left handed hitter currently at AA. He has a 60 grade hit tool and makes loud contact like Joshua Baez with better contact skills. He would become Burleson's replacement.

The Tigers are currently 3.5 games out of the wildcard race. The production from their 1B ranks 27th in the majors, RF ranks 29th, and DH ranks 20th. Burleson could help them with any of that. If the Tigers wanted someone else the Cardinals have in addition to Burleson, ask for Malachi Witherspoon.

2) If things don't work out with the Tigers, trade Burleson to the Miami Marlins.
Marlins get: Alec Burleson
Cardinals get; Kevin DeFrank, Santiago Solarte, and Yohanfer Santana.

The Marlins need another quality bat and rank 25th in production at 1B.

Kevin Defrank 17y/o MLB Pipeline grades- Scouting grades: Fastball: 70 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 50 | Overall: 50
The 6-foot-5 righty is quite physically mature for his age with an athletic, muscly frame. Between his size and arm speed, he's already able to touch triple digits on a four-seamer that operates at 97 mph. He's able to locate the pitch well and gets both ride and armside run. Defrank's changeup features splitter-like sink and is quite advanced for his age, sitting 88-91 mph. He rounds out his arsenal with a high-spin sweeping slider that parks at 86-89 mph and could eventually become plus.

Defrank's power stuff at this age is impressive enough, and the fact that he's consistently throwing it for strikes separates him from most DSL pitchers. His command still has a ways to go, as expected from someone his age, but he has the athleticism and repeats his delivery well enough to already show average control. Teenage pitching prospects are incredibly risky, but he's checking every box you'd want to see, including impressive makeup and leadership.

Santiago Solarte 17 y/o SS Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 60 | Run: 50 | Arm: 50 | Field: 55 | Overall: 45
The Venezuela native immediately stands out for his physical strength with near-top-of-the-line exit velocities from the left side of the plate. The question as he matures, of course, is how much he'll be able to tap into it. Solarte is quite coordinated for his size, although his longer limbs will challenge his ability to make consistent contact. Still, he has plenty of bat speed from his closed-off stance and displays strong pitch recognition.

Solarte is currently an above-average runner but figures to slow down as he adds weight. He uses his athleticism well on defense with clean actions and a strong arm. There are few big league shortstops his size, but he'll be given every chance to stick there, even if the Marlins may give him playing time at second and third, as they do with most infield prospects. He will have as much upside as anyone in the Marlins' system if he can tap into his tremendous tools.

Yohanfer Santana 20 y/o Scouting grades: Fastball: 65 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 40 | Overall: 40
Santana was touching the high 90s before his elbow injury and spent his time rehabbing adding significant muscle. The right-hander is now up closer to 250 pounds, compared to his listed weight of 200, enabling him to top out at 102.6 mph on his fastball with impressive ride. His upper-80s cutter-like slider is his best secondary pitch with the potential to be plus, and his low-90s changeup also has promise.

Santana's control has wobbled before and after the injury, but the hope is that added strength will make his delivery more consistent and coordinated. This is one of the highest-upside arms in the system, albeit one who turns 21 in October, has yet to pitch stateside and has to be added to the 40-man roster after the 2027 season or be exposed to the Rule 5 Draft. This will be a key season, more than a year after the surgery, to see how his powerful stuff plays against better competition.

Don’t know but seems like ETA is a ways off on these guys.

[JDW]

A Burly trade proposal. Actually two proposals.

1) Alec Burleson straight up to the Tigers for Josue Briceno.
Bricneo is 21 and is a C/1B (think 1B). He is a left handed hitter currently at AA. He has a 60 grade hit tool and makes loud contact like Joshua Baez with better contact skills. He would become Burleson's replacement.

The Tigers are currently 3.5 games out of the wildcard race. The production from their 1B ranks 27th in the majors, RF ranks 29th, and DH ranks 20th. Burleson could help them with any of that. If the Tigers wanted someone else the Cardinals have in addition to Burleson, ask for Malachi Witherspoon.

2) If things don't work out with the Tigers, trade Burleson to the Miami Marlins.
Marlins get: Alec Burleson
Cardinals get; Kevin DeFrank, Santiago Solarte, and Yohanfer Santana.

The Marlins need another quality bat and rank 25th in production at 1B.

Kevin Defrank 17y/o MLB Pipeline grades- Scouting grades: Fastball: 70 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 50 | Overall: 50
The 6-foot-5 righty is quite physically mature for his age with an athletic, muscly frame. Between his size and arm speed, he's already able to touch triple digits on a four-seamer that operates at 97 mph. He's able to locate the pitch well and gets both ride and armside run. Defrank's changeup features splitter-like sink and is quite advanced for his age, sitting 88-91 mph. He rounds out his arsenal with a high-spin sweeping slider that parks at 86-89 mph and could eventually become plus.

Defrank's power stuff at this age is impressive enough, and the fact that he's consistently throwing it for strikes separates him from most DSL pitchers. His command still has a ways to go, as expected from someone his age, but he has the athleticism and repeats his delivery well enough to already show average control. Teenage pitching prospects are incredibly risky, but he's checking every box you'd want to see, including impressive makeup and leadership.

Santiago Solarte 17 y/o SS Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 60 | Run: 50 | Arm: 50 | Field: 55 | Overall: 45
The Venezuela native immediately stands out for his physical strength with near-top-of-the-line exit velocities from the left side of the plate. The question as he matures, of course, is how much he'll be able to tap into it. Solarte is quite coordinated for his size, although his longer limbs will challenge his ability to make consistent contact. Still, he has plenty of bat speed from his closed-off stance and displays strong pitch recognition.

Solarte is currently an above-average runner but figures to slow down as he adds weight. He uses his athleticism well on defense with clean actions and a strong arm. There are few big league shortstops his size, but he'll be given every chance to stick there, even if the Marlins may give him playing time at second and third, as they do with most infield prospects. He will have as much upside as anyone in the Marlins' system if he can tap into his tremendous tools.

Yohanfer Santana 20 y/o Scouting grades: Fastball: 65 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 40 | Overall: 40
Santana was touching the high 90s before his elbow injury and spent his time rehabbing adding significant muscle. The right-hander is now up closer to 250 pounds, compared to his listed weight of 200, enabling him to top out at 102.6 mph on his fastball with impressive ride. His upper-80s cutter-like slider is his best secondary pitch with the potential to be plus, and his low-90s changeup also has promise.

Santana's control has wobbled before and after the injury, but the hope is that added strength will make his delivery more consistent and coordinated. This is one of the highest-upside arms in the system, albeit one who turns 21 in October, has yet to pitch stateside and has to be added to the 40-man roster after the 2027 season or be exposed to the Rule 5 Draft. This will be a key season, more than a year after the surgery, to see how his powerful stuff plays against better competition.

Don’t know but seems like ETA is a ways off on these guys.

True, but if you want a self sustaining farm system, you need good prospects up and down the system. Between the 2 Burly trades, I'd much prefer the one with the Marlins. 2 power arms and a potential power bat that plays infield.