Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

[skilles]

Can anyone name the players that have been given 10% of the cap at age 21?

[BluesDom]

Thats an interesting one


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_h ... _by_season



Top 20 NHL salary-earners from 1989–90 to 2023–24
Rank Player name Salary (USD) Total seasons[a] Years active[a]
1 Sidney Crosby† $141,340,243 19 2005–present
2 Alexander Ovechkin† $138,220,892 19 2005–present
3 Shea Weber $129,030,338 16 2005–2021
4 Jaromir Jagr† $128,139,753 24 1990–2008; 2011–2018
5 Evgeni Malkin† $126,720,892 18 2006–present
6 Anze Kopitar† $120,454,878 18 2006–present
7 Vincent Lecavalier† $116,266,608 17 1998–2016
8 Patrick Kane† $115,637,195 17 2007–present
9 Jonathan Toews† $115,562,195 13 2007–2023
10 Chris Pronger† $111,379,268 18 1993–2012
11 Ryan Suter $111,193,397 19 2005–present
12 Joe Thornton $110,637,195 24 1997–present
13 Zach Parise $110,243,397 19 2005–2024
14 Carey Price $105,944,368 15 2007–2022
15 Brad Richards† $105,567,467 15 2000–2016
16 Henrik Lundqvist $102,783,390 15 2005–2020
17 Drew Doughty† $99,929,878 16 2008–present
18 Steven Stamkos† $99,551,829 16 2008–present
19 Zdeno Chara† $99,538,695 24 1997–2022
20 Erik Karlsson $99,346,046 15 2009–present

[dhsux]

you're probably looking at maybe 10% possibly 15% of all hockey players that will be able take this gamble to hold off signing and describe it as a reasonable risk

And of those 90-120 players the vast majority will likely not do it

IMO

[rangergiff]

I do think that Snuggerud will be the highest paid player on the team real soon. It was inevitable that someone will get more than Thomas. The dramatic rise in the cap recently has insured it. I think he signs an extension for under 10 million but not much less. Sadly, the only thing in sports that is certain is major increases on ticket prices.

[zoiks]

How in the world would we even begin to guess what Snuggerud will make until we see how he performs next year?

Dude could score anywhere from 50-100 points.

His stats the next 2 years won’t matter as much as you’d expect for his salary. Young players are now being paid based upon their potential star player upside. It’s a disaster for a team to spend years of time and money drafting and developing a player, and the player leaves for an offer sheet just before breaking out. Teams are choosing to overpay and keep young players with upside.

[skilles]

How in the world would we even begin to guess what Snuggerud will make until we see how he performs next year?

Dude could score anywhere from 50-100 points.

His stats the next 2 years won’t matter as much as you’d expect for his salary. Young players are now being paid based upon their potential star player upside. It’s a disaster for a team to spend years of time and money drafting and developing a player, and the player leaves for an offer sheet just before breaking out. Teams are choosing to overpay and keep young players with upside.

lol yes they will, his stats the next 2 years will be how his future potential is evaluated.

His stats this season will not only matter, they will be the biggest factor in his next contract.

[TBone]

“Matching the offer sheet was an easy decision, as [general manager Pat Verbeek] has intelligently left enough cap space to give us the ability to retain Leo,” Ducks owners Henry and Susan Samueli said in a statement.

[Droge100]

You have to remember that most teams, especially the top teams, won't have the cap room for a contract that large, and it would have to come from a lesser team. I would be more than satisfied and take the 4 number-one picks.

[TBone]

Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.

Adios. He's a product of Thomas and Broberg.

Carbonneau could score 40 on that line.

[bluetunehead]

Can anyone name the players that have been given 10% of the cap at age 21?

Might have missed one or two, but here is the list:

E. Staal
Crosby
Kane
Stamkos
Doughty
Kopitar
Ekblad
Draisaitl
McDavid
Eichel
Matthews
B. Tkachuk
Stutzle
Carlsson
Bedard (presumably, but not yet)

[skilles]

I do think that Snuggerud will be the highest paid player on the team real soon. It was inevitable that someone will get more than Thomas. The dramatic rise in the cap recently has insured it. I think he signs an extension for under 10 million but not much less. Sadly, the only thing in sports that is certain is major increases on ticket prices.

Gotta go off %, Thomas signed for about 10% of the cap when he signed long term. 10% of the cap in 27/28 will be 11.3 so that would be roughly the 27/28 equivalent of the Thomas contract.

[skilles]

Can anyone name the players that have been given 10% of the cap at age 21?

Might have missed one or two, but here is the list:

E. Staal
Crosby
Kane
Stamkos
Doughty
Kopitar
Ekblad
Draisaitl
McDavid
Eichel
Matthews
B. Tkachuk
Stutzle
Carlsson
Bedard (presumably, but not yet)

Pretty short list and that is for 10% not the % people are acting like the Ducks are crazy for not offering.....10.4 is 10%

[TBone]

He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis

NHL offer sheet compensation for the 2026 offseason scales with the contract’s Average Annual Value (AAV) as outlined by Puckpedia and detailed in Sportsnet:

Up to $1,575,969: None
$1,575,969 to $2,387,832: 3rd-round pick
$2,387,832 to $4,775,666: 2nd-round pick
$4,775,666 to $7,163,498: 1st- and 3rd-round picks
$7,163,498 to $9,551,332: 1st-, 2nd-, and 3rd-round picks
$9,551,332 to $11,939,166: Two 1st-, one 2nd-, and one 3rd-round picks
$11,939,166 or more: Four 1st-round picks

If someone wants to offer him 12 million I'll sure as hell take FOUR 1st rounders with our amatuer scouting staff.

This is going to be the next big thing if GMs want to start poaching good, not great, players. Take the four 1sts.

[Old_Goat]

you're probably looking at maybe 10% possibly 15% of all hockey players that will be able take this gamble to hold off signing and describe it as a reasonable risk

And of those 90-120 players the vast majority will likely not do it

IMO

I agree. The concept is called "risk-adjusted-return."

Additional thoughts on various comments in the thread above...
Beyond what he has or has yet to accomplish so far, Snuggerud has not played a higher-valued/difficult-to-fill position -- Center-man.
Thomas is not the same talent as Carlsson.
That list of highest earners is populated with those having many seasons in the NHL and with very many whom were practically considered "elite" talent right from the early and young start of their NHL careers.
Maybe Verbeek screwed-up? Maybe the Owners were pulling the strings?

[BleedingBleu]

How in the world would we even begin to guess what Snuggerud will make until we see how he performs next year?

Dude could score anywhere from 50-100 points.

His stats the next 2 years won’t matter as much as you’d expect for his salary. Young players are now being paid based upon their potential star player upside. It’s a disaster for a team to spend years of time and money drafting and developing a player, and the player leaves for an offer sheet just before breaking out. Teams are choosing to overpay and keep young players with upside.

I disagree. This has always been the case with most professional sports leagues that incorporate a draft process to acquire young, amateur talent.

For a some poorly run baseball franchises, they’d intentionally draft lesser players with a Top Pick purely because of slot values and a desire to spread their full allotment to players with signability concerns. Therefore, they could target high profile but riskier HS players later in the draft to entice them to forego college commitments.

The Pirates had an issue where they kept drafting near the top, spending much of their organizational budgets on prospects that might not even make it to the Bigs.

The worst NFL also found themselves paying top dollar to their Top Picks and struggled to improve the rest of the team after shelling out rich contracts to Rookies who’d never played a down.

It’s tough to acquire star players, let alone young star players. In almost every sport, a star player rarely hit Free Agency unless they’re close to being over the hill. When they somehow do become available, teams will pay a kings ransom for the last couple years in their twenties and basically until retirement.

This strategy was closer to sabotage, because it was a Hail Mary prayer by Philadelphia to acquire Carlsson. It was always going to hurt whoever got him in the short term, but clearly both teams felt it was worth it.

[skilles]

Snuggerud is gonna have to have a hell of a season for someone to give up for 1st round picks which means offering more that 12 million

Jimmy likely falls in range of the compensation protection mechanism.

The compensation table needs another level added.

The door that has been opened here really only applies to very high level young centers IMO. Possibly a d but that is probably even more rare.