Brandon Carlo for 2 Third rounders

[Harry S Deals]

Health issues; big guy with ankle injuries doesn't sound great.

Its a 3rd pairing guy with Jiricek on the rise, who cares

[Hockey Pete]

Holy Cow this is a great trade for us, a 29yo defensive defenseman (the guys has NEVER had a negative +/- season in his entire NHL career) big and fairly mobile who only cost's $4 million for two 3rd round picks.?.?

What is Toronto thinking?

[ratonmono2]

Good move for one season. Jiricek will be taking over soon, probably by next spring. Good bridge option. Don't re-sign this guy though.

[UMR-alum-05]

Carlo is only 29 (someone whining that he's 30+ earlier).

He's +144 for his career. +144. He's never been a negative player. Ever.

This is an awesome move. For two thirds? Plugs a huge hole on the defense. We look solid as heck now on D for next year.

Broberg Maillioux
Lindstein Parayko
Fowler Carlo
Tucker

Jiricek and all the LHDs down in the A.

If Carlo proves to be a good fit you can keep him and try and move Parayko later.

Armstrong and Steen have their ish together this year.

Oh and we just scooped another big RHD Luke Shairer.

[kimzey59]

Just one year left on his contract. Good fill in at RD while Jiricek cooks in the AHL. Still just 29.

Had bad advanced stats last year, so no wonder Chayka wants him gone. Interesting we have now traded for two “hockey players” who don’t have great advanced stats. We are definitely still more old school in our scouting.

Not necessarily. We have a 4-5 person analytics dept.

One thing about some of those advanced stats is they’re often very situational. Put a guy that should be a 3rd pairing guy on your 2nd pairing and the team as a whole is really bad (like Toronto was this past season) and it should be no surprise his metrics look poor. But Carlo’s been in the league 10-11 years so he’s a pretty known commodity.

We know he’s not amazing but his job will be to hold down the fort and provide some stability to the 3rd pairing. Heck of a better parter for Fowler than Holl. Or Kessel or Tucker.

More likely Carlo is Lindstein's mentor on the 3rd pairing so Fowler can get back into the top 4.

Don't know if I want Fowler with Colt or Mailloux but either works as a 2nd pairing.

Now we just need to clean up the logjam up front.

[STL fan in MN]

Why are we acting like this is an all-in move? We traded 2 surplus 3rd round picks for a serious need. He’ll help the team possibly make the playoffs. The Blues management wants to create a winning team.

Its a good trade I said... I dont see the mentality though. Trading away 4 picks seems like win now. They arent win now. U think they are win now?

I don't understand treating the hard earned 3rd rounders like PEZ candy either, but apparently Blues management thinks they can win this year.

The Blues clearly want to be competitive. And even teams that are well aware they’re not going to win the Cup in a particular season still need to fill out their roster and ice a solid team. We had a huge hole on the right side of our defense. Carlo won’t be a part of what we’re building towards in 2-3 years but he can help hold down the fort as guys like Mailloux and Lindstein gain experience and Jiricek eventually breaks into the league.

Is 2 3rd sort of expensive if he only spends 1 season with us? Yeah, maybe. But maybe Jiricek makes him expendable by March and we can trade him at the trade deadline and more or less recoup that same approx value. Then it’d be a push in terms of assets AND we’d get Carlo stabilizing our 3rd pairing for most of the season. Or maybe he solidifies the 3rd pairing well enough that we re-sign him for another 1-2 years and he continues to serve as a #5-7 guy for a couple more years. A lot yet to be determined.

[Frank Barone]

It's been 18 months since the Blues extended a 30+ defenseman in their contract year, I guess they were due. I really don't understand what the Blues are doing.

Tbh neither do I. Its like they think they are in win now.... its a good trade... but we are not a win now team. Its odd. I guess sell tickets?

Why are we acting like this is an all-in move? We traded 2 surplus 3rd round picks for a serious need. He’ll help the team possibly make the playoffs. The Blues management wants to create a winning team.

Exactly this!

Try telling Mr. Stillman, "but we are not a win now team."

They are definitely a win now team. The would not have acquired McTavish if the were only looking to the future. This forces Jiricek to earn a call up. If Jiricek is playing on the Blues at the end of the year, Carlo can be the 7th man.

[Quas]

For everyone complaining that they traded away 4 picks, they still have 9 picks in this draft. They can’t all fit into your lineup and McTavish and Carlo will fill a need while the younger prospects develop. They are already kind of crowded at forward right now, and may trade off a couple guys for 27’ picks.

[DawgDad]

Smart move what needed to be done last summer

They put too much trust in Tucker (and Kessel). The team will be exposed in this way for the next few seasons, at least. A lot of young players in the pipeline with more to come.

It's not all downside risk, the young players will ring upside, too.

[MiamiLaw]

For the price, it’s a no brainer

[TAFKAP]

Why are we acting like this is an all-in move? We traded 2 surplus 3rd round picks for a serious need. He’ll help the team possibly make the playoffs. The Blues management wants to create a winning team.

Its a good trade I said... I dont see the mentality though. Trading away 4 picks seems like win now. They arent win now. U think they are win now?

I don't understand treating the hard earned 3rd rounders like PEZ candy either, but apparently Blues management thinks they can win this year.

When you say "Blues management thinks they can win this year." what do you think the definition of "win" is, to management? The Cup? Conference Finals? I believe they can win this year, and my definition is "Make the playoffs and make some noise" like 2 years ago. Last season showed us what happens when you don't fill the holes on the roster. We have too much talent for a top 5 pick barring catastrophic injuries. If they want to give time to Jirichek to grow, getting a RHD who can play NHL quality defense is a good idea. None of us want to be in the same boat next year.

[STL fan in MN]

Just one year left on his contract. Good fill in at RD while Jiricek cooks in the AHL. Still just 29.

Had bad advanced stats last year, so no wonder Chayka wants him gone. Interesting we have now traded for two “hockey players” who don’t have great advanced stats. We are definitely still more old school in our scouting.

Not necessarily. We have a 4-5 person analytics dept.

One thing about some of those advanced stats is they’re often very situational. Put a guy that should be a 3rd pairing guy on your 2nd pairing and the team as a whole is really bad (like Toronto was this past season) and it should be no surprise his metrics look poor. But Carlo’s been in the league 10-11 years so he’s a pretty known commodity.

We know he’s not amazing but his job will be to hold down the fort and provide some stability to the 3rd pairing. Heck of a better parter for Fowler than Holl. Or Kessel or Tucker.

More likely Carlo is Lindstein's mentor on the 3rd pairing so Fowler can get back into the top 4.

Don't know if I want Fowler with Colt or Mailloux but either works as a 2nd pairing.

Now we just need to clean up the logjam up front.

Yeah, maybe. I tend to not get too caught up on the pairings teams write down on paper to start games as that’s not how it always works in games. Like Fowler was listed on the 3rd pairing with Holl the last couple months of the season but he’d then still get plenty of time with Parayko and end up with top-4 minutes most of the time.

[bluetunehead]

He’s a pretty respectable defensive defenseman who fills the very big hole we had at the 3rd RHD slot.

Hard to argue.

[stlblue06]

I can honestly tell who posted certain comments without even looking at the name. We could acquire McDavid for a 3rd rounder and a few of you would hate it!

Right, did people forget how scary our defensive pairs were last season? We had/have WAY too many young dmen without enough steady established NHL ones to balance them out. With Fowler showing he was anything but consistent/steady, this was a major need for this Blues team.

Now I fell much better about having LM somewhere in our 6 dmen and there is no question the Blues want to give Lindstein a chance to really establish himself this season.

The Blues missed Suter a lot last season.

[Barksdale's People]

Meh..

One year left on a 4 mil. contract where he probably spent as much time on the injury list as he did playing. Doesn't hit, doesn't move so well. just big and basically gets paid.

Rather they give his minutes to those being Over seasoned in the A.

Please advise all of us which RHD is being over seasoned in Springfield?

Only recently is a right hand shot needed to play on the right and your right others have moved on after not getting a opportunity.

No reason to have a fit. Just say you love it and tells us all how great a gm he is.

Yea, I was a big fan of Lefty McNoName too. Miss that guy. Perfect third pairing guy, glad he got over that potentially fatal flaw of not really existing.

[renostl]

It's been 18 months since the Blues extended a 30+ defenseman in their contract year, I guess they were due. I really don't understand what the Blues are doing.

Tbh neither do I. Its like they think they are in win now.... its a good trade... but we are not a win now team. Its odd. I guess sell tickets?

Why are we acting like this is an all-in move? We traded 2 surplus 3rd round picks for a serious need. He’ll help the team possibly make the playoffs. The Blues management wants to create a winning team.

Its a good trade I said... I dont see the mentality though. Trading away 4 picks seems like win now. They arent win now. U think they are win now?

We may not agree on what "win now" really means which is fine.
What if it is more of a mandate for the team to return to the playoffs after
the drought and allow for the offensive youth to carry the team wherever they go?