Arenado

[Goldfan]

Was NA intentionally tanking the last couple years…..or in the very least failingly disinterested so he could get his ticket out of STL?

[ecleme22]

Was NA intentionally tanking the last couple years…..or in the very least failingly disinterested so he could get his ticket out of STL?

No, dummy

[sikeston bulldog2]

You’d have to put some stats to it to give that thought life.

So take his last two years in Colorado. Was he pouting then too? Take those stats, and match them to his first two years here. Did he rebound then too? Then take the last two years here, the tanking years as you note, and compare to this year.

[11WSChamps]

Maybe that shoulder injury was a bigger factor than was let on.

Maybe he just likes the Arizona ballpark. Who knows.

But to suggest throwing away two years in the twilight of a career is ridiculous.

[Goldfan]

Maybe that shoulder injury was a bigger factor than was let on.

Maybe he just likes the Arizona ballpark. Who knows.

But to suggest throwing away two years in the twilight of a career is ridiculous.

Players across all major sports have had a history of dialing it back to force an outcome. This isn’t a impossibility

[Adam2]

It certainly helps him playing all his home games in that park vs Busch

[ecleme22]

Maybe that shoulder injury was a bigger factor than was let on.

Maybe he just likes the Arizona ballpark. Who knows.

But to suggest throwing away two years in the twilight of a career is ridiculous.

Players across all major sports have had a history of dialing it back to force an outcome. This isn’t a impossibility

Don't be dumb.

[OldRed]

Maybe that shoulder injury was a bigger factor than was let on.

Maybe he just likes the Arizona ballpark. Who knows.

But to suggest throwing away two years in the twilight of a career is ridiculous.

Players across all major sports have had a history of dialing it back to force an outcome. This isn’t a impossibility

Where do you come up with these thoughts?

[RamFan08NY]

Was NA intentionally tanking the last couple years…..or in the very least failingly disinterested so he could get his ticket out of STL?

No. Do you know what would have helped get him outta St. Louis? Waiving his no-trade clause. He didnt seem too anxious to do that

[Goldfan]

Maybe that shoulder injury was a bigger factor than was let on.

Maybe he just likes the Arizona ballpark. Who knows.

But to suggest throwing away two years in the twilight of a career is ridiculous.

Players across all major sports have had a history of dialing it back to force an outcome. This isn’t a impossibility

Where do you come up with these thoughts?

You’ve never heard of players dogging it to get out of situations they don’t want to be in ??

[Goldfan]

Was NA intentionally tanking the last couple years…..or in the very least failingly disinterested so he could get his ticket out of STL?

No. Do you know what would have helped get him outta St. Louis? Waiving his no-trade clause. He didnt seem too anxious to do that

Well sure he wanted to choose his spot.

[Melville]

Was NA intentionally tanking the last couple years…..or in the very least failingly disinterested so he could get his ticket out of STL?

To a point, yes.
N/A has always been a follower.
Never a leader.
Super Slo Mo expected N/A to be something he never wanted, never could be.
In Colorado, N/A made is extremely clear that he did not want responsibility, did not want expectations - he was only interested in playing baseball.
It was stupid of the Cardinals to ever believe he could be a cornerstone on the filed or in the clubhouse.
The D'Backs simply want nothing more from him than to ride in the back of the bus - nothing more than being along for the ride while others shoulder the responsibility of leadership.

[Cusecards]

Maybe that shoulder injury was a bigger factor than was let on.

Maybe he just likes the Arizona ballpark. Who knows.

But to suggest throwing away two years in the twilight of a career is ridiculous.

Players across all major sports have had a history of dialing it back to force an outcome. This isn’t a impossibility

Where do you come up with these thoughts?

Great thread!
Red....you may not WANT to get an honest answer to your question?

[icon]

Maybe that shoulder injury was a bigger factor than was let on.

Maybe he just likes the Arizona ballpark. Who knows.

But to suggest throwing away two years in the twilight of a career is ridiculous.

Players across all major sports have had a history of dialing it back to force an outcome. This isn’t a impossibility

Prove it. This is the show me state.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Maybe that shoulder injury was a bigger factor than was let on.

Maybe he just likes the Arizona ballpark. Who knows.

But to suggest throwing away two years in the twilight of a career is ridiculous.

Players across all major sports have had a history of dialing it back to force an outcome. This isn’t a impossibility

Where do you come up with these thoughts?

You’ve never heard of players dogging it to get out of situations they don’t want to be in ??

He's a probable Hall of Famer, but not a slam dunk. You think he's going to marginalize 2 seasons of stats so the Cardinals would move him? C'mon.

[Melville]

Maybe that shoulder injury was a bigger factor than was let on.

Maybe he just likes the Arizona ballpark. Who knows.

But to suggest throwing away two years in the twilight of a career is ridiculous.

Players across all major sports have had a history of dialing it back to force an outcome. This isn’t a impossibility

Where do you come up with these thoughts?

You’ve never heard of players dogging it to get out of situations they don’t want to be in ??

He's a probable Hall of Famer, but not a slam dunk. You think he's going to marginalize 2 seasons of stats so the Cardinals would move him? C'mon.

Intentionally marginalize his own stats?
No.
Mope and pout, thereby diminishing his motivation and competitive interest?
Absolutely.
Did it in Colorado.
Did in in STL.