Well Isnt That Speshal..

[Younghopp1991]

Yeah, that’s not how this works. Even assuming the Blues would have had the same number combos assigned to SJ, if the Blues had finished the season in the #9 slot, then there’s an alternate timeline; the lottery needs to be conducted, the button to draw each ball needs to be pushed again, etc - the chances of the #9 team winning the lottery again is the same as it was before - like 4%. You don’t just get to assume that the lottery results would have been the same. The only way this logic makes sense is if the lottery was conducted prior to the end of the season and the results were already determine that the #9 team would jump to #2…in that case, then yes, the Blues lost out. But that’s not how it works.

Why are you acting like this is the multiverse? We know 100% that 9 jumped up to 2. We dont have to overcomplicate it

It jumped from 9 to 2 when SJ was occupying the 9 slot. This isn’t hard. You can’t just substitute the Blues at the 9 slot and assume everything would have happened the exact same. It’s an alternate timeline; the lottery would have had to have the exact same results. I was rooting hard for the Blues to lose down the stretch, but I wasn’t the least bit concerned about “what ifs” of another team won the lottery because it simply doesn’t matter.

The “simply doesnt matter” comment could be applied to every last hockey related post on this forum. Im not trying to be argumentative or sound salty. But we 100% know that slot 9 got the 2nd pick and that spot could have been ours if our approach was different. Its over and does not matter. But for sake of the forum and topic in the offseason i comment when i think its relative.

You are being argumentative though, the #9 slot wasn't chosen, the San Jose Sharks were randomly given 50 sets of random numbers, the St. Louis Blues held 30. There is no way to tell when that particular set of number was given to them. IT WAS RANDOM. You are trying to say, that had the Blues packed it in, that winning combination would have been in the Blues hands. That's ABSOLUTELY false. They are randomly distributed, that means not assigned due to the order of points. There is absolutely NO WAY to tell that's what would have happened. You're saying this to dig at people who you disagree with, that's ok. Just be honest about it.

Not at all. If there is information out there that describes in detail how the combinations are distributed that show im wrong then i will admit im wrong. Its just my opinion that the team tgat landed in that spot isnt a factor that plays into the combinations that spot randomly got. We dont know if the teams were thrown in randomly, alphabetically, draft position or whatever. But the facts that we do know support the 9 slot landing the combination that in fact resulted in the 2nd pick while that pick was in play. Thats like saying that the numbers we got from the detroit pick were one set of combinations but if detroit keeps their pick then it would have been a different set.

[TAFKAP]

Yeah, that’s not how this works. Even assuming the Blues would have had the same number combos assigned to SJ, if the Blues had finished the season in the #9 slot, then there’s an alternate timeline; the lottery needs to be conducted, the button to draw each ball needs to be pushed again, etc - the chances of the #9 team winning the lottery again is the same as it was before - like 4%. You don’t just get to assume that the lottery results would have been the same. The only way this logic makes sense is if the lottery was conducted prior to the end of the season and the results were already determine that the #9 team would jump to #2…in that case, then yes, the Blues lost out. But that’s not how it works.

Why are you acting like this is the multiverse? We know 100% that 9 jumped up to 2. We dont have to overcomplicate it

It jumped from 9 to 2 when SJ was occupying the 9 slot. This isn’t hard. You can’t just substitute the Blues at the 9 slot and assume everything would have happened the exact same. It’s an alternate timeline; the lottery would have had to have the exact same results. I was rooting hard for the Blues to lose down the stretch, but I wasn’t the least bit concerned about “what ifs” of another team won the lottery because it simply doesn’t matter.

The “simply doesnt matter” comment could be applied to every last hockey related post on this forum. Im not trying to be argumentative or sound salty. But we 100% know that slot 9 got the 2nd pick and that spot could have been ours if our approach was different. Its over and does not matter. But for sake of the forum and topic in the offseason i comment when i think its relative.

You are being argumentative though, the #9 slot wasn't chosen, the San Jose Sharks were randomly given 50 sets of random numbers, the St. Louis Blues held 30. There is no way to tell when that particular set of number was given to them. IT WAS RANDOM. You are trying to say, that had the Blues packed it in, that winning combination would have been in the Blues hands. That's ABSOLUTELY false. They are randomly distributed, that means not assigned due to the order of points. There is absolutely NO WAY to tell that's what would have happened. You're saying this to dig at people who you disagree with, that's ok. Just be honest about it.

Not at all. If there is information out there that describes in detail how the combinations are distributed that show im wrong then i will admit im wrong. Its just my opinion that the team tgat landed in that spot isnt a factor that plays into the combinations that spot randomly got. We dont know if the teams were thrown in randomly, alphabetically, draft position or whatever. But the facts that we do know support the 9 slot landing the combination that in fact resulted in the 2nd pick while that pick was in play. Thats like saying that the numbers we got from the detroit pick were one set of combinations but if detroit keeps their pick then it would have been a different set.

Here you go, as requested. The Draft guide shows which number sequences went to which team, and that it was done at random.

https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public ... yGuide.pdf

[Blues Dave]

After the fact, everyone can take it however they want to take it. But both teams were trying to do what they were supposed to do ....win the game.

[SameOldBlues]

Yeah, that’s not how this works. Even assuming the Blues would have had the same number combos assigned to SJ, if the Blues had finished the season in the #9 slot, then there’s an alternate timeline; the lottery needs to be conducted, the button to draw each ball needs to be pushed again, etc - the chances of the #9 team winning the lottery again is the same as it was before - like 4%. You don’t just get to assume that the lottery results would have been the same. The only way this logic makes sense is if the lottery was conducted prior to the end of the season and the results were already determine that the #9 team would jump to #2…in that case, then yes, the Blues lost out. But that’s not how it works.

Why are you acting like this is the multiverse? We know 100% that 9 jumped up to 2. We dont have to overcomplicate it

It jumped from 9 to 2 when SJ was occupying the 9 slot. This isn’t hard. You can’t just substitute the Blues at the 9 slot and assume everything would have happened the exact same. It’s an alternate timeline; the lottery would have had to have the exact same results. I was rooting hard for the Blues to lose down the stretch, but I wasn’t the least bit concerned about “what ifs” of another team won the lottery because it simply doesn’t matter.

The “simply doesnt matter” comment could be applied to every last hockey related post on this forum. Im not trying to be argumentative or sound salty. But we 100% know that slot 9 got the 2nd pick and that spot could have been ours if our approach was different. Its over and does not matter. But for sake of the forum and topic in the offseason i comment when i think its relative.

You are being argumentative though, the #9 slot wasn't chosen, the San Jose Sharks were randomly given 50 sets of random numbers, the St. Louis Blues held 30. There is no way to tell when that particular set of number was given to them. IT WAS RANDOM. You are trying to say, that had the Blues packed it in, that winning combination would have been in the Blues hands. That's ABSOLUTELY false. They are randomly distributed, that means not assigned due to the order of points. There is absolutely NO WAY to tell that's what would have happened. You're saying this to dig at people who you disagree with, that's ok. Just be honest about it.

Not at all. If there is information out there that describes in detail how the combinations are distributed that show im wrong then i will admit im wrong. Its just my opinion that the team tgat landed in that spot isnt a factor that plays into the combinations that spot randomly got. We dont know if the teams were thrown in randomly, alphabetically, draft position or whatever. But the facts that we do know support the 9 slot landing the combination that in fact resulted in the 2nd pick while that pick was in play. Thats like saying that the numbers we got from the detroit pick were one set of combinations but if detroit keeps their pick then it would have been a different set.

Here you go, as requested. The Draft guide shows which number sequences went to which team, and that it was done at random.

https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public ... yGuide.pdf

All right now I feel guilty for starting this thread, lol you’re both good posters so no more fighting

[BleedingBleu]

Yeah, that’s not how this works. Even assuming the Blues would have had the same number combos assigned to SJ, if the Blues had finished the season in the #9 slot, then there’s an alternate timeline; the lottery needs to be conducted, the button to draw each ball needs to be pushed again, etc - the chances of the #9 team winning the lottery again is the same as it was before - like 4%. You don’t just get to assume that the lottery results would have been the same. The only way this logic makes sense is if the lottery was conducted prior to the end of the season and the results were already determine that the #9 team would jump to #2…in that case, then yes, the Blues lost out. But that’s not how it works.

Why are you acting like this is the multiverse? We know 100% that 9 jumped up to 2. We dont have to overcomplicate it

It jumped from 9 to 2 when SJ was occupying the 9 slot. This isn’t hard. You can’t just substitute the Blues at the 9 slot and assume everything would have happened the exact same. It’s an alternate timeline; the lottery would have had to have the exact same results. I was rooting hard for the Blues to lose down the stretch, but I wasn’t the least bit concerned about “what ifs” of another team won the lottery because it simply doesn’t matter.

The “simply doesnt matter” comment could be applied to every last hockey related post on this forum. Im not trying to be argumentative or sound salty. But we 100% know that slot 9 got the 2nd pick and that spot could have been ours if our approach was different. Its over and does not matter. But for sake of the forum and topic in the offseason i comment when i think its relative.

You are being argumentative though, the #9 slot wasn't chosen, the San Jose Sharks were randomly given 50 sets of random numbers, the St. Louis Blues held 30. There is no way to tell when that particular set of number was given to them. IT WAS RANDOM. You are trying to say, that had the Blues packed it in, that winning combination would have been in the Blues hands. That's ABSOLUTELY false. They are randomly distributed, that means not assigned due to the order of points. There is absolutely NO WAY to tell that's what would have happened. You're saying this to dig at people who you disagree with, that's ok. Just be honest about it.

Not at all. If there is information out there that describes in detail how the combinations are distributed that show im wrong then i will admit im wrong. Its just my opinion that the team tgat landed in that spot isnt a factor that plays into the combinations that spot randomly got. We dont know if the teams were thrown in randomly, alphabetically, draft position or whatever. But the facts that we do know support the 9 slot landing the combination that in fact resulted in the 2nd pick while that pick was in play. Thats like saying that the numbers we got from the detroit pick were one set of combinations but if detroit keeps their pick then it would have been a different set.

Here you go, as requested. The Draft guide shows which number sequences went to which team, and that it was done at random.

https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public ... yGuide.pdf

All right now I feel guilty for starting this thread, lol you’re both good posters so no more fighting

Yes, how dare you…

[SameOldBlues]

Yeah, that’s not how this works. Even assuming the Blues would have had the same number combos assigned to SJ, if the Blues had finished the season in the #9 slot, then there’s an alternate timeline; the lottery needs to be conducted, the button to draw each ball needs to be pushed again, etc - the chances of the #9 team winning the lottery again is the same as it was before - like 4%. You don’t just get to assume that the lottery results would have been the same. The only way this logic makes sense is if the lottery was conducted prior to the end of the season and the results were already determine that the #9 team would jump to #2…in that case, then yes, the Blues lost out. But that’s not how it works.

Why are you acting like this is the multiverse? We know 100% that 9 jumped up to 2. We dont have to overcomplicate it

It jumped from 9 to 2 when SJ was occupying the 9 slot. This isn’t hard. You can’t just substitute the Blues at the 9 slot and assume everything would have happened the exact same. It’s an alternate timeline; the lottery would have had to have the exact same results. I was rooting hard for the Blues to lose down the stretch, but I wasn’t the least bit concerned about “what ifs” of another team won the lottery because it simply doesn’t matter.

The “simply doesnt matter” comment could be applied to every last hockey related post on this forum. Im not trying to be argumentative or sound salty. But we 100% know that slot 9 got the 2nd pick and that spot could have been ours if our approach was different. Its over and does not matter. But for sake of the forum and topic in the offseason i comment when i think its relative.

You are being argumentative though, the #9 slot wasn't chosen, the San Jose Sharks were randomly given 50 sets of random numbers, the St. Louis Blues held 30. There is no way to tell when that particular set of number was given to them. IT WAS RANDOM. You are trying to say, that had the Blues packed it in, that winning combination would have been in the Blues hands. That's ABSOLUTELY false. They are randomly distributed, that means not assigned due to the order of points. There is absolutely NO WAY to tell that's what would have happened. You're saying this to dig at people who you disagree with, that's ok. Just be honest about it.

Not at all. If there is information out there that describes in detail how the combinations are distributed that show im wrong then i will admit im wrong. Its just my opinion that the team tgat landed in that spot isnt a factor that plays into the combinations that spot randomly got. We dont know if the teams were thrown in randomly, alphabetically, draft position or whatever. But the facts that we do know support the 9 slot landing the combination that in fact resulted in the 2nd pick while that pick was in play. Thats like saying that the numbers we got from the detroit pick were one set of combinations but if detroit keeps their pick then it would have been a different set.

Here you go, as requested. The Draft guide shows which number sequences went to which team, and that it was done at random.

https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public ... yGuide.pdf

All right now I feel guilty for starting this thread, lol you’re both good posters so no more fighting

Yes, how dare you…

Lemme know when I can get out of the corner!

[BleedingBleu]

Yeah, that’s not how this works. Even assuming the Blues would have had the same number combos assigned to SJ, if the Blues had finished the season in the #9 slot, then there’s an alternate timeline; the lottery needs to be conducted, the button to draw each ball needs to be pushed again, etc - the chances of the #9 team winning the lottery again is the same as it was before - like 4%. You don’t just get to assume that the lottery results would have been the same. The only way this logic makes sense is if the lottery was conducted prior to the end of the season and the results were already determine that the #9 team would jump to #2…in that case, then yes, the Blues lost out. But that’s not how it works.

Why are you acting like this is the multiverse? We know 100% that 9 jumped up to 2. We dont have to overcomplicate it

It jumped from 9 to 2 when SJ was occupying the 9 slot. This isn’t hard. You can’t just substitute the Blues at the 9 slot and assume everything would have happened the exact same. It’s an alternate timeline; the lottery would have had to have the exact same results. I was rooting hard for the Blues to lose down the stretch, but I wasn’t the least bit concerned about “what ifs” of another team won the lottery because it simply doesn’t matter.

The “simply doesnt matter” comment could be applied to every last hockey related post on this forum. Im not trying to be argumentative or sound salty. But we 100% know that slot 9 got the 2nd pick and that spot could have been ours if our approach was different. Its over and does not matter. But for sake of the forum and topic in the offseason i comment when i think its relative.

You are being argumentative though, the #9 slot wasn't chosen, the San Jose Sharks were randomly given 50 sets of random numbers, the St. Louis Blues held 30. There is no way to tell when that particular set of number was given to them. IT WAS RANDOM. You are trying to say, that had the Blues packed it in, that winning combination would have been in the Blues hands. That's ABSOLUTELY false. They are randomly distributed, that means not assigned due to the order of points. There is absolutely NO WAY to tell that's what would have happened. You're saying this to dig at people who you disagree with, that's ok. Just be honest about it.

Not at all. If there is information out there that describes in detail how the combinations are distributed that show im wrong then i will admit im wrong. Its just my opinion that the team tgat landed in that spot isnt a factor that plays into the combinations that spot randomly got. We dont know if the teams were thrown in randomly, alphabetically, draft position or whatever. But the facts that we do know support the 9 slot landing the combination that in fact resulted in the 2nd pick while that pick was in play. Thats like saying that the numbers we got from the detroit pick were one set of combinations but if detroit keeps their pick then it would have been a different set.

Here you go, as requested. The Draft guide shows which number sequences went to which team, and that it was done at random.

https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public ... yGuide.pdf

All right now I feel guilty for starting this thread, lol you’re both good posters so no more fighting

Yes, how dare you…

Lemme know when I can get out of the corner!

10 minutes of reflection, 3 “Hail Monty’s” and two “Our Arbours”

[Younghopp1991]

Im not trying to “fight” about this. I just dont buy into the fact that swapping the name of the team that occupied a slot some how effects the result of the combinations. There has to be a variable that directly effects the outcome. That is like saying our combinations for the 15 slot would be different if detroit still owned the pick. And if they are not different then the important variable in my mind the the draft slot.

Again you dont have to agree with me, i dont have to agree with you. Its my opinion. I did not create this thread. Simply just responding. I dont have any ill feelings to anyone on here for having a opinion.

[MandatoryDenial]

Horrible take. You don't lose by winning.

Yes you absolutely can because this system is demonstrably set up to make you do just that.

[SameOldBlues]

Im not trying to “fight” about this. I just dont buy into the fact that swapping the name of the team that occupied a slot some how effects the result of the combinations. There has to be a variable that directly effects the outcome. That is like saying our combinations for the 15 slot would be different if detroit still owned the pick. And if they are not different then the important variable in my mind the the draft slot.

Again you dont have to agree with me, i dont have to agree with you. Its my opinion. I did not create this thread. Simply just responding. I dont have any ill feelings to anyone on here for having a opinion.

Let the record show that I completely agree with ya and I know you’re not trying to argue, and while me and TAFKAP dont agree on alot of Blues topics and opinions, Ive seen him man up and apologize when he felt he was in the wrong, so I respect ya both as awesome posters entitled to your opinions.

Now I hope ive made an amends by starting this sarcastic thread with no ill intent.

[SameOldBlues]

Horrible take. You don't lose by winning.

Yes you absolutely can because this system is demonstrably set up to make you do just that.

B-19

BINGO!

[TAFKAP]

Yeah, that’s not how this works. Even assuming the Blues would have had the same number combos assigned to SJ, if the Blues had finished the season in the #9 slot, then there’s an alternate timeline; the lottery needs to be conducted, the button to draw each ball needs to be pushed again, etc - the chances of the #9 team winning the lottery again is the same as it was before - like 4%. You don’t just get to assume that the lottery results would have been the same. The only way this logic makes sense is if the lottery was conducted prior to the end of the season and the results were already determine that the #9 team would jump to #2…in that case, then yes, the Blues lost out. But that’s not how it works.

Why are you acting like this is the multiverse? We know 100% that 9 jumped up to 2. We dont have to overcomplicate it

It jumped from 9 to 2 when SJ was occupying the 9 slot. This isn’t hard. You can’t just substitute the Blues at the 9 slot and assume everything would have happened the exact same. It’s an alternate timeline; the lottery would have had to have the exact same results. I was rooting hard for the Blues to lose down the stretch, but I wasn’t the least bit concerned about “what ifs” of another team won the lottery because it simply doesn’t matter.

The “simply doesnt matter” comment could be applied to every last hockey related post on this forum. Im not trying to be argumentative or sound salty. But we 100% know that slot 9 got the 2nd pick and that spot could have been ours if our approach was different. Its over and does not matter. But for sake of the forum and topic in the offseason i comment when i think its relative.

You are being argumentative though, the #9 slot wasn't chosen, the San Jose Sharks were randomly given 50 sets of random numbers, the St. Louis Blues held 30. There is no way to tell when that particular set of number was given to them. IT WAS RANDOM. You are trying to say, that had the Blues packed it in, that winning combination would have been in the Blues hands. That's ABSOLUTELY false. They are randomly distributed, that means not assigned due to the order of points. There is absolutely NO WAY to tell that's what would have happened. You're saying this to dig at people who you disagree with, that's ok. Just be honest about it.

Not at all. If there is information out there that describes in detail how the combinations are distributed that show im wrong then i will admit im wrong. Its just my opinion that the team tgat landed in that spot isnt a factor that plays into the combinations that spot randomly got. We dont know if the teams were thrown in randomly, alphabetically, draft position or whatever. But the facts that we do know support the 9 slot landing the combination that in fact resulted in the 2nd pick while that pick was in play. Thats like saying that the numbers we got from the detroit pick were one set of combinations but if detroit keeps their pick then it would have been a different set.

Here you go, as requested. The Draft guide shows which number sequences went to which team, and that it was done at random.

https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public ... yGuide.pdf

All right now I feel guilty for starting this thread, lol you’re both good posters so no more fighting

I'm not fighting, I'm just pointing out how random it was. San Jose had 20 more sets than we did, the only way to prove that SJ could have lost that set, would be to know when they got it, if it was before 30, it's a moot point because switch us with them and the 11 slot wins because they still have that set. It could have been worse, I ran across this looking through the sets.

3 4 7 9 FLA

That would have sucked.

[Younghopp1991]

Im not trying to “fight” about this. I just dont buy into the fact that swapping the name of the team that occupied a slot some how effects the result of the combinations. There has to be a variable that directly effects the outcome. That is like saying our combinations for the 15 slot would be different if detroit still owned the pick. And if they are not different then the important variable in my mind the the draft slot.

Again you dont have to agree with me, i dont have to agree with you. Its my opinion. I did not create this thread. Simply just responding. I dont have any ill feelings to anyone on here for having a opinion.

Let the record show that I completely agree with ya and I know you’re not trying to argue, and while me and TAFKAP dont agree on alot of Blues topics and opinions, Ive seen him man up and apologize when he felt he was in the wrong, so I respect ya both as awesome posters entitled to your opinions.

Now I hope ive made an amends by starting this sarcastic thread with no ill intent.

Im down for a group hug.

[Younghopp1991]

Yeah, that’s not how this works. Even assuming the Blues would have had the same number combos assigned to SJ, if the Blues had finished the season in the #9 slot, then there’s an alternate timeline; the lottery needs to be conducted, the button to draw each ball needs to be pushed again, etc - the chances of the #9 team winning the lottery again is the same as it was before - like 4%. You don’t just get to assume that the lottery results would have been the same. The only way this logic makes sense is if the lottery was conducted prior to the end of the season and the results were already determine that the #9 team would jump to #2…in that case, then yes, the Blues lost out. But that’s not how it works.

Why are you acting like this is the multiverse? We know 100% that 9 jumped up to 2. We dont have to overcomplicate it

It jumped from 9 to 2 when SJ was occupying the 9 slot. This isn’t hard. You can’t just substitute the Blues at the 9 slot and assume everything would have happened the exact same. It’s an alternate timeline; the lottery would have had to have the exact same results. I was rooting hard for the Blues to lose down the stretch, but I wasn’t the least bit concerned about “what ifs” of another team won the lottery because it simply doesn’t matter.

The “simply doesnt matter” comment could be applied to every last hockey related post on this forum. Im not trying to be argumentative or sound salty. But we 100% know that slot 9 got the 2nd pick and that spot could have been ours if our approach was different. Its over and does not matter. But for sake of the forum and topic in the offseason i comment when i think its relative.

You are being argumentative though, the #9 slot wasn't chosen, the San Jose Sharks were randomly given 50 sets of random numbers, the St. Louis Blues held 30. There is no way to tell when that particular set of number was given to them. IT WAS RANDOM. You are trying to say, that had the Blues packed it in, that winning combination would have been in the Blues hands. That's ABSOLUTELY false. They are randomly distributed, that means not assigned due to the order of points. There is absolutely NO WAY to tell that's what would have happened. You're saying this to dig at people who you disagree with, that's ok. Just be honest about it.

Not at all. If there is information out there that describes in detail how the combinations are distributed that show im wrong then i will admit im wrong. Its just my opinion that the team tgat landed in that spot isnt a factor that plays into the combinations that spot randomly got. We dont know if the teams were thrown in randomly, alphabetically, draft position or whatever. But the facts that we do know support the 9 slot landing the combination that in fact resulted in the 2nd pick while that pick was in play. Thats like saying that the numbers we got from the detroit pick were one set of combinations but if detroit keeps their pick then it would have been a different set.

Here you go, as requested. The Draft guide shows which number sequences went to which team, and that it was done at random.

https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public ... yGuide.pdf

All right now I feel guilty for starting this thread, lol you’re both good posters so no more fighting

I'm not fighting, I'm just pointing out how random it was. San Jose had 20 more sets than we did, the only way to prove that SJ could have lost that set, would be to know when they got it, if it was before 30, it's a moot point because switch us with them and the 11 slot wins because they still have that set. It could have been worse, I ran across this looking through the sets.

3 4 7 9 FLA

That would have sucked.

For the record i know totally get where you are coming from.i believe what you are saying that if we would have finished i. The 9 slot that we would have kept our initial combos and then added more additional. We dont know if the teams were organized alphabetically bu city, but team name, randomly or by the draft position before the random combos are sent to each team. But if they were grouped by draft postion first then i believe we would have had all of san jose’s and they would have had all of ours.

[TAFKAP]

Yeah, that’s not how this works. Even assuming the Blues would have had the same number combos assigned to SJ, if the Blues had finished the season in the #9 slot, then there’s an alternate timeline; the lottery needs to be conducted, the button to draw each ball needs to be pushed again, etc - the chances of the #9 team winning the lottery again is the same as it was before - like 4%. You don’t just get to assume that the lottery results would have been the same. The only way this logic makes sense is if the lottery was conducted prior to the end of the season and the results were already determine that the #9 team would jump to #2…in that case, then yes, the Blues lost out. But that’s not how it works.

Why are you acting like this is the multiverse? We know 100% that 9 jumped up to 2. We dont have to overcomplicate it

It jumped from 9 to 2 when SJ was occupying the 9 slot. This isn’t hard. You can’t just substitute the Blues at the 9 slot and assume everything would have happened the exact same. It’s an alternate timeline; the lottery would have had to have the exact same results. I was rooting hard for the Blues to lose down the stretch, but I wasn’t the least bit concerned about “what ifs” of another team won the lottery because it simply doesn’t matter.

The “simply doesnt matter” comment could be applied to every last hockey related post on this forum. Im not trying to be argumentative or sound salty. But we 100% know that slot 9 got the 2nd pick and that spot could have been ours if our approach was different. Its over and does not matter. But for sake of the forum and topic in the offseason i comment when i think its relative.

You are being argumentative though, the #9 slot wasn't chosen, the San Jose Sharks were randomly given 50 sets of random numbers, the St. Louis Blues held 30. There is no way to tell when that particular set of number was given to them. IT WAS RANDOM. You are trying to say, that had the Blues packed it in, that winning combination would have been in the Blues hands. That's ABSOLUTELY false. They are randomly distributed, that means not assigned due to the order of points. There is absolutely NO WAY to tell that's what would have happened. You're saying this to dig at people who you disagree with, that's ok. Just be honest about it.

Not at all. If there is information out there that describes in detail how the combinations are distributed that show im wrong then i will admit im wrong. Its just my opinion that the team tgat landed in that spot isnt a factor that plays into the combinations that spot randomly got. We dont know if the teams were thrown in randomly, alphabetically, draft position or whatever. But the facts that we do know support the 9 slot landing the combination that in fact resulted in the 2nd pick while that pick was in play. Thats like saying that the numbers we got from the detroit pick were one set of combinations but if detroit keeps their pick then it would have been a different set.

Here you go, as requested. The Draft guide shows which number sequences went to which team, and that it was done at random.

https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public ... yGuide.pdf

All right now I feel guilty for starting this thread, lol you’re both good posters so no more fighting

I'm not fighting, I'm just pointing out how random it was. San Jose had 20 more sets than we did, the only way to prove that SJ could have lost that set, would be to know when they got it, if it was before 30, it's a moot point because switch us with them and the 11 slot wins because they still have that set. It could have been worse, I ran across this looking through the sets.

3 4 7 9 FLA

That would have sucked.

For the record i know totally get where you are coming from.i believe what you are saying that if we would have finished i. The 9 slot that we would have kept our initial combos and then added more additional. We dont know if the teams were organized alphabetically bu city, but team name, randomly or by the draft position before the random combos are sent to each team. But if they were grouped by draft postion first then i believe we would have had all of san jose’s and they would have had all of ours.

Everything I read said the numbers were randomly grouped, then assigned to teams in random order. They wanted no weight added to the order of finish.

Craziest part is this, the Blues, Preds, and Sharks all finished with 86 points. The Sharks and Preds got better draft position over us because they each had more WINS. SJS-39, NSH-38, STL-37. That's nuts!

[SameOldBlues]

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